CZ 75 or Beretta 92?

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Before you purchase one or the other you owe it to yourself to consider the EAA Witness Elite Match.

It is more accurate than either of the pistols mentioned. Here are a few things to take into consideration:

Less expensive. (this one is at the top of most gun buyer's lists)

Has one of the best stock SAO triggers available on any handgun.

It has much better, and fully adjustable, sights.

Much better ergonomics than either pistol mentioned.

It is SAO, which in my book is a plus.

It has a manual safety, so cocked and locked is an option.

It rides lower in the hand than the Beretta, and equals or betters the CZ.

All steel, two tone, construction.

Matched frame to slide fit.

Match fitted barrel.

Full length metal guide rod.

User changable front sight.

High capacity 18 round magazines.

Shoot all three, I can practically guarantee you'll agree with me.

Whatever you do, try and shoot what you're considering purchasing. You can rent these at gun ranges, or tap someone on the shoulder at the gun range.
 
CZ Sp-01.
Best 9mm value in the gun market today. Period. Dot. (There is a reason this gun is used in over 70 country's police forces.)

(And yes I have both, and yes, I love both.)
 
CZ Sp-01.
Best 9mm value in the gun market today. Period. Dot. (There is a reason this gun is used in over 70 country's police forces.)

(And yes I have both, and yes, I love both.)
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(sigh).........70 countries? Where?

Best value in a 9mm, not in my opinion, maybe a Glock 17 or 19 depending on your hand size.
 
Ford Chevy for sure....Now the Kia's and Scions are jumping in too.

Try them both, buy the one that works better for you. THR is a great place to get information and share gun knowledge. But asking "which is better" will get 2 - 3 pages of "mine is better". They may be correct, for them and how they shoot. YOUR results will vary.

If you add a poll then are you asking which is better, or does it become a popularity contest?

Oh, by the way.....I like the CZ better, the ones I have gotten to shoot are a better match for me and my hands.:neener:
 
CZ's seem to be the overall opinion here. I like the Beretta in the same way I like the 1911.

I'm leaning towards the CZ or the Witness now. Thanks everyone.

Now I just need to get a Taurus I just bought sold. I'm glad I got a good deal on it.
 
Ford/Chevy?

The '70s called they want their limited choices between dinosaurs back.

Try Toyota or Nissan.

Anyway, I don't care for the Beretta's slide mounted safety/decocker. It also has a mushy trigger that has a too long pull for my tastes.

CZs make good guns, but to up the performance or make it a world class shooter you're looking at another $300 on top of the price of a 75B.

I'm not saying mine is better, just giving the OP some opinons and comparisons.

The EAA Witness Elite Match as made by Tanfoglio is a world class shooter.
 
CZ75 is a much better fit for me. I have fairly large hands and the 92 still feels bulky. I don't think the 92 will be any more accurate than the CZ.
 
I just bought a Beretta yesterday. I thought the grip was little wide for my hands, but after shooting 100 rounds, I realized the grip was perfect and it placed the trigger at the perfect spot for my trigger finger.

Both guns are well made and dependable and accurate. The key is which fits you best.
 
I fired a Beretta 92 (borrowed) at the range, and liked it well enough. It fine just *fine* in my hands, but not magical. When I held the Cz-75, though, I knew it had to be mine, and I kept coming back and arguing with my internal acountant until that was true.

You may hold / fire them both and come to the opposite conclusion, but that's about the only way you could make this decision -- try them out ;)

(My hands are fairly small, btw, so I'm always puzzled by people finding the Cz's grips too large for small hands -- hand geometry and personal taste are awfully idiosyncratic, though.)

timothy
 
I agree with the early poster who stated that there really is no objective difference between the two pistols. That is, there is no critical area in which either is superior.

And now for some subjective stuff...

The Beretta feels bigger, but the trigger reach is roughly the same. The CZ seems lighter and smaller, but you'll notice they fit Beretta holsters pretty well. ;) Still, I think most people woul swear that the CZ was smaller/lighter. It has better balance for most folks, I suspect. They are awfully close.

There is absolutely no comparison in aftermarket support, but CZ does get better every year in this regard. If you like to tweak and modify, it's not as easy with the CZ.

If you like the 1911 and want to carry in Condition 1, the CZ is the obvious choice. If you are primarily interested in Condition 2 carry, then the Beretta is more attractive. The decocker version of the CZ (CZ 75BD) does not have a manual safety.

I got started with CZ when they were considerably cheaper than a Beretta or Browning/FN, and I made considerably less money. I'm pretty sure that had something to do with it. ;)
 
I see you're in SC and occasionally come to NC. If you're coming to the Raleigh area, let me know... I have several CZ's (75B, P01 (his & hers), SP01 Tactical, SP01 non-tactical) and a 92FS Inox. You're welcome to shoot them all and make up your mind.

I like the 92FS, but it's my nightstand pistol. I carry the CZ's because they "feel" better. You really should check out the P01 -- it will most likely end up on your list as well. It's an alloy frame NATO approved pistol with a light rail and decocker (like the 75BD).

Steve
 
I bought a CZ 75B 9MM Luger about 2 months ago. 100% reliable
after just over 500 rds. Silly accurate. Great sights with
the single white dot front, and notch rear bordered with
two white dots along a serrated full length rib.

I've never handled a Beretta FS/M9 - USN had 1911s when
I served so the Condition One option is the same manual of
arms I may rent a Beretta 92 when the opportunity arises.
but I don't care for a slide mounted safety.

I'm buying the Kadet .22 LR Conversion kit. The trigger job
can wait til winter. My 1911 is first in line for that in the projects
list and priority.

Randall
 
My friend has both and likes the CZ a lot better. He's much more accurate with it. Only advantages of the Beretta are easier to take down and rack slide.
 
I love my CZ PCR and 97B. Not exactly the same, but the Beretta 92 seems to have a very blocky grip that I don't like. I have smallish hands, and the PCR, I'm assuming the 75B feels the same, feels excellent. It feels like it was made for my hands, while the only times I've held a Beretta it felt kind of odd.
 
Between those two I'd pick the CZ for many of the reasons cited. IMO is has a better 'fit' unless you have large hands. Not mentioned is the fact CZ makes a dedicated 22 conversion kit (Kadet) that is extremely nice and make for cheap practice.
 
Get the Beretta if you want to beat people with it (its huge!) or the CZ of you want to shoot them. ;)

Better yet get the SP-01 (I did) and get the bayonet. How many handguns have that as an option??
 
I won't buy a conventional double action auto that can't be carried cocked and locked. The trigger reach is almost always too long for me.

I'm seriously thinking about buying a .40S&W CZ75B. I never even considered the Beretta.
 
I have clones of both (a Taurus PT92 and a IMI Baby Eagle) and I often shoot my sisters CZ-75b. While all are damn fine guns, there are definitely differences between them. These are my experiences, and others will undoubtedly have different experiences either similar or contrary to my own.

Reliability: Though all three have proven to be (so far) completely reliable, the PT-92 has 2500+ rounds through it now with not a single malfunction of any kind, and by all accounts most other PT92 owners report the same. 10000+ rounds without a hiccup does not seem to be uncommon. Looking at the design you can see that the slide actually only rides the frame for about 1.5 inches, which probably lends to that legendary reliability (less space for something to rub and slow the action).

Recoil: Though in 9mm none of them are wrist breakers, the 92 does feel "snappier" than the others, and seems to take me a little longer to require the target. The best of the three is the Baby Eagle (hereafter referred to as the Jericho because it sounds SOO much better :) ). It feels very gentle on the wrists and has more of a "shove" feel than a snap, almost as if someone is gently pushing the gun upwards with a bowling ball after each shot, irresistible, but not violent. The weight of the Jericho along with the full steel construction and the internal rail system is probably what controls the recoil so well.

Weight: The 92 is the lightest of the group, good for carry, but a slight detractor for aiming.

Carry: The PT92 and the CZ-75b can be carried cocked and locked, the Jericho cannot. The PT-92 is (as mentioned) lighter than the other two (though very comparable to the CZ), but is also larger. I don't know about the Berretta, but if it also has an aluminum frame, I would imagine it would be about the same.

Ergonomics: The Jericho and the CZ both fit my hand beautifully, while the 92 has larger grips and tends to shift a bit between shots. The 92's controls are in better positions for quick access, with the Jericho coming in second and the CZ coming in third (bear in mind, I have large hands). Of course none of these come into comparison to Sig's for having easy to access controls. Of course the controls are almost moot point with the Jericho’s "feature" of automatically releasing the slide when a full mag is slammed in :) . Trigger position on the 92 is great for both single and double action, while it is a bit long on the CZ (very long for double action).

Accuracy: While I am not a good enough shot to really comment on this thoroughly of intelligently, I do know that I can maintain 1.5" groups with both the CZ and the Jericho, while I cannot with the PT92. Also, I have, and I have read of several others, found that with the 92's I tend to shoot consistently low and left. I suspect this has more to do with the gun shifting in the hand between shots than anything else, since my first shot is usually pretty good, with others getting lower and lefter as I go through a mag. Also, both the CZ and the Jericho seem to point nicer than the 92 does. Again I think this is die to the way the grips are designed as well as the better balance found in the CZ and Jericho. My Jericho also has the Isralie sights which I feel are much better than the 92's and slightlly better than the CZ's

Aesthetics (because lets face it, most of spend more time looking at our guns than we do shooting them): As far as overall design goes, I give this one to the 92. The design is iconic and gorgeous, whether in black or stainless it’s just a cool design, theres a reason it’s the most used pistol in thew movie industry. However once fancy finishes are added in, I have to tip my hat to the Jericho
Shiney.jpg (I know, I’ve posted this pic in another thread, but I just love how this gun looks!).

There ya go, I hope that helps in some way, or was at least a little informative.
 
I have a Beretta 92FS with a .22 conversion unit. I love it. I have also owned the Beretta Tomcat, 96 & 92G EII. I'm a bit of a Beretta fan.

My BIL has a CZ75 SP01 Shadow that he bought on my recommendation. It is hands down the most accurate 9mm firearm I have ever tried, with a lighter single action than my IPSC 1911 that cost 2.5 times as much.

If I was going to carry then I would consider the Beretta, ditto if it was going to sit in a bedside draw and not be practiced with a lot. For range use or competition the SP01 is my recommendation. It's a fantastic gun.
 
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