CZ 75 questions

I replaced the retaining pin with a stronger roll pin from McMaster-Carr. Mine showed some wear after 1,500 rounds (no dry fire without snap caps). Probably just some preventative medicine. Only other mods I did are a Dawson f/o front sight, a reduced trigger spring, and floating trigger pin. I like the slide in frame concept because it gives me a slightly higher grip. As far as the 50 year old design, I like it, and my 1911 just fine.
 
Grab a gun has discounted p-07’s. I’m tempted.

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CZ P-07 9mm 3.75" Barrel 15-Rounds Omega Trigger System

Introduced in 2009, the CZ P-07 was the first handgun to feature the convertible Omega trigger system. A simplification of the CZ 75's hammer ignition method, the Omega's trigger parts are interlocking in nature, allowing full disassembly and reassembly without the need for gunsmithing...
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have only held a CZ 75 in the gunshop. They feel good in my hand but the 1911 fells better so I own no 75s. I do have a SAR B-6 that I like but still prefer the 1911 over it.
 
jmr40 said:
They are the darlings of the internet... [T]hey were dirt cheap compared to most other guns. It was primarily the price that I found attractive...

The deciding factor for me is the slide inside the frame and tiny ejection port. I couldn't see where it had any advantages, but a couple of disadvantages. Operating the slide was much more difficult than other guns with the more traditional slide outside the frame.

At the end of the day they are a just another decent option out of lots of other decent options if the design works for you. I think most people like them just because they are different...The basic design is about 50 years old, designed at the same time as the Beretta 92...
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They certainly are the darlings of the internet. Maybe that's a good thing, maybe not. If you really want to be trendy, you brag about how great your new CZ is, although I don't find CZ75s on reddit like I do their more "modern" pistols. I also got my first CZ because it was cheaper than the Glock or Beretta option. Unfortunately, prices have gone up, although I think Berettas and Glocks are still more expensive.

Regarding the slide inside the frame thing, I have a couple of advantages in mind. The first is actually an advantage, the other may be fictional! First, the slide inside the frame allows you to grip higher on the gun without dragging your support thumb on the slide. This is a big deal to a significant portion of the race gun crowd. Secondly, and possibly fictionally, it seems to me that the reciprocating mass would be less on the CZ slides than something that rides on the outside of the frame. Unfortunately, I don't have a similar SIG or Glock to compare! The slide (no barrel or recoil spring assembly) for my -75 compact is 10.3 oz according to my postal scale. My -85 slide is 11.1 oz. If someone wants to pick nits, I have TFO sights on the compact, but that's not much heavier than standard. Someone let me know if a comparable barrelled Glock or Sig or Beretta slide is lighter or heavier! The Beretta slide looks like it should be lighter, but that could just be in my head too.

Variety is the spice of life, and all that. I've got no problems with the Beretta 92. Everything has issues, you just pick which ones you want to deal with. Some of the Berettas had locking block problems. Some of the CZs had spring problems. The slide is a little harder to grab. Some of the SIGs had drop safety issues. Some of the Colts had... I like CZ-75s because you can carry them cocked and locked. I like the Beretta, but it's really chunky. They also didn't tend to be common in the US with the safety instead of the decocker until pretty recently. I like the SIGs except the bore is pretty high. Just pick your poison.
 
Mauser lover said:
They certainly are the darlings of the internet. Maybe that's a good thing, maybe not. If you really want to be trendy, you brag about how great your new CZ is, although I don't find CZ75s on reddit like I do their more "modern" pistols. I also got my first CZ because it was cheaper than the Glock or Beretta option. Unfortunately, prices have gone up, although I think Berettas and Glocks are still more expensive.

Regarding the slide inside the frame thing, I have a couple of advantages in mind. The first is actually an advantage, the other may be fictional! First, the slide inside the frame allows you to grip higher on the gun without dragging your support thumb on the slide. This is a big deal to a significant portion of the race gun crowd. Secondly, and possibly fictionally, it seems to me that the reciprocating mass would be less on the CZ slides than something that rides on the outside of the frame. Unfortunately, I don't have a similar SIG or Glock to compare! The slide (no barrel or recoil spring assembly) for my -75 compact is 10.3 oz according to my postal scale. My -85 slide is 11.1 oz. If someone wants to pick nits, I have TFO sights on the compact, but that's not much heavier than standard. Someone let me know if a comparable barrelled Glock or Sig or Beretta slide is lighter or heavier! The Beretta slide looks like it should be lighter, but that could just be in my head too.

Variety is the spice of life, and all that. I've got no problems with the Beretta 92. Everything has issues, you just pick which ones you want to deal with. Some of the Berettas had locking block problems. Some of the CZs had spring problems. The slide is a little harder to grab. Some of the SIGs had drop safety issues. Some of the Colts had... I like CZ-75s because you can carry them cocked and locked. I like the Beretta, but it's really chunky. They also didn't tend to be common in the US with the safety instead of the decocker until pretty recently. I like the SIGs except the bore is pretty high. Just pick your poison.
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kje54 said:
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Just as long as everyone here is clear that I'm not one of those guys. Whatever is "battleworn" on any of my guns is not because it came from the factory that way. I refrain from dropping my guns, but the gravel is pretty rough on magazines. And I'm more likely to junk my truck (I don't have a Vespa, although if it made my commute cheaper, I might go for it) than sell my guns, so I'm not painting anything to match.

Although if I had a Vespa and were going to paint something to match, it would probably be something Italian, not Czech. I'd have to flip a coin between a Tanfo and a Pietta wannabe Colt.
 
sevt_chevelle said:
It's meant to be a sacrificial item to protect the firing pin, hence being a softer steel.
Play by the rules and it's a non issue.
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It has been documented to fail around the 1500 rounds count, without any dry fire. Considering this failure renders the pistol useless, it is a poor quality pin. Play by the same rules with a tougher steel pin, then it's a non issue
 
So, this is the part y’all are talking about?

61100 Firing Pin Retaining Pin

Tempered spring steel firing pin retaining pin. Our 61100 acts like a mini-shock absorber and can withstand repeated impacts from the firing pin. Cushions the firing pin shoulder from damage. Fits all CZ's that use a firing pin block system. Installation note: Always install the open end of...
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Armybrat said:
So, this is the part y’all are talking about?

61100 Firing Pin Retaining Pin

Tempered spring steel firing pin retaining pin. Our 61100 acts like a mini-shock absorber and can withstand repeated impacts from the firing pin. Cushions the firing pin shoulder from damage. Fits all CZ's that use a firing pin block system. Installation note: Always install the open end of...
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Yes.
 
Mauser lover said:
Regarding the slide inside the frame thing, I have a couple of advantages in mind. The first is actually an advantage, the other may be fictional! First, the slide inside the frame allows you to grip higher on the gun without dragging your support thumb on the slide.
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Yep, and not a bad trade off. I used to worry about the grip area on a CZ, but I notice that I don't have any problem racking a 75 slide when I need to.
 
Mauser lover said:
The slide (no barrel or recoil spring assembly) for my -75 compact is 10.3 oz according to my postal scale. My -85 slide is 11.1 oz. If someone wants to pick nits, I have TFO sights on the compact, but that's not much heavier than standard.
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Those Beretta slides look trim from a side view, but looking at them from below while mounted to the gun shows how chunky they actually are.
 
velocette said:
I've been carrying a CZ 75 Compact, PCR for several years. The pistol is dead cold reliable, more accurate than I am and very comfortable to shoot. Empty weight is 27 ounces. Don't know about customer service as I have never had a problem with my PCR.
IMnvHO the PCR is an ideal carry pistol. easily concealable, very safe, not made of plastic or pot metal.
In my 23 years of CCW experience (ever since I fled New Jersistan) it is clearly the best of other CCW pistols I have used. (three 1911 compacts, .45, .45, & 9mm, Sig .229, S&W 640, S&W M 15, Glock 9mm compact, Mk III Hi Power & more) Red dot sight is a concession to my 70+ years of "experience".

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Who did the slide mill work for the red dot?
 
Old Dog said:
the CZ-75 Compact is one of my all-time favorites (some like the PCR with its lighter aluminum frame, but I like the weight of an all-steel pistol).
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My CZ-75D Compact has an aluminum frame and a decocker. It competes with my S&W 6906 for owb concealed carry duties. I also have an all steel CZ 85B with a conventional safety for a SA mode but, by judicially lowering the hammer to the "half-cock" position, it can be carried in a DA mode. Nothing fits my hand better than CZ 75/85 pistols.
 
Mauser lover said:
They certainly are the darlings of the internet. Maybe that's a good thing, maybe not. If you really want to be trendy, you brag about how great your new CZ is, although I don't find CZ75s on reddit like I do their more "modern" pistols. I also got my first CZ because it was cheaper than the Glock or Beretta option. Unfortunately, prices have gone up, although I think Berettas and Glocks are still more expensive.

Regarding the slide inside the frame thing, I have a couple of advantages in mind. The first is actually an advantage, the other may be fictional! First, the slide inside the frame allows you to grip higher on the gun without dragging your support thumb on the slide. This is a big deal to a significant portion of the race gun crowd. Secondly, and possibly fictionally, it seems to me that the reciprocating mass would be less on the CZ slides than something that rides on the outside of the frame. Unfortunately, I don't have a similar SIG or Glock to compare! The slide (no barrel or recoil spring assembly) for my -75 compact is 10.3 oz according to my postal scale. My -85 slide is 11.1 oz. If someone wants to pick nits, I have TFO sights on the compact, but that's not much heavier than standard. Someone let me know if a comparable barrelled Glock or Sig or Beretta slide is lighter or heavier! The Beretta slide looks like it should be lighter, but that could just be in my head too.

Variety is the spice of life, and all that. I've got no problems with the Beretta 92. Everything has issues, you just pick which ones you want to deal with. Some of the Berettas had locking block problems. Some of the CZs had spring problems. The slide is a little harder to grab. Some of the SIGs had drop safety issues. Some of the Colts had... I like CZ-75s because you can carry them cocked and locked. I like the Beretta, but it's really chunky. They also didn't tend to be common in the US with the safety instead of the decocker until pretty recently. I like the SIGs except the bore is pretty high. Just pick your poison.
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I just weighed my PCR slide with Dawson sights.weighed in at 10.5 ounces. The similar guns in size I have is a S&W SD9 and a S&W 3953. The SD9 weighs in at 11 even and the 3953 at 11.25 ounces. For giggles I weighed the slide of my TZ 75, came in 11.5. so the CZ slide is slightly lighter then these two pistol slides. I don't know if there is enough of a difference to make a big difference. In shooting these pistols, I can't really tell much difference in felt recoil. Maybe slightly more in the SD9 due to its polymer frame.
 
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