CZ finally offers the 527 in 6.5 Grendel

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CZ is finally offering the 527 (micro Mauser) bolt-action in a 6.5 Grendel variant!

http://cz-usa.com/product/cz-527-american-rustic/

"Aged Beechwood" American style stock
24" barrel (22" for 7.62x39)
6.4 pounds for the 6.5 Grendel chambering
42" overall length
Normal CZ527 features (CRF, single set trigger, integrated dovetail, etc...)

It's greeat to see some competition for the Howa mini action series.
 
Yes, The local Outfitter's Supply received these "Baby Mauser" 7.62 rifles last week. The CZ 527 is fast becoming a classic firearm. I have owned one for 3 years. It is a real bargain in accurate no frills rifle. It has the appeal of the old Pre-64 Winchesters.
 
There's clearly a lot of demand for this since people have been building them, but I can't for the life of me see why. It's a pound heavier, inch and a half longer and less capable in terms of ballistics than a Savage Lightweight Hunter 11 in 6.5CM. Price might be a little cheaper on the CZ I guess. But I really don't see it. The cartridge is a crippled compromise. You might get some benefit if the size and weight of the firearm were scaled to the cartridge, but they aren't.
 
Llama Bob said:
There's clearly a lot of demand for this since people have been building them, but I can't for the life of me see why. It's a pound heavier, inch and a half longer and less capable in terms of ballistics than a Savage Lightweight Hunter 11 in 6.5CM. Price might be a little cheaper on the CZ I guess. But I really don't see it. The cartridge is a crippled compromise. You might get some benefit if the size and weight of the firearm were scaled to the cartridge, but they aren't.
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Less expensive practice ammo -- Wolf makes steel cased 6.5G.
Enough performance for most deer hunters (maintains 1000 ft-lbs at 300 yards)
Less recoil/muzzle blast

If it doesn't turn you on you probably shouldn't buy one -- but don't derail every thread on the subject.
 
Llama Bob said:
There's clearly a lot of demand for this since people have been building them, but I can't for the life of me see why. It's a pound heavier, inch and a half longer and less capable in terms of ballistics than a Savage Lightweight Hunter 11 in 6.5CM. Price might be a little cheaper on the CZ I guess. But I really don't see it. The cartridge is a crippled compromise. You might get some benefit if the size and weight of the firearm were scaled to the cartridge, but they aren't.
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The Grendel is not for everyone, I like the creedmoor and rem 6.5s for my day to day locations, but if I were hunting closer in and knew shots would always always always be 250 or less, the Grendel fits in perfectly for everything I would attempt to shoot with the faster 6.5 cartridges. I'm looking at one each of the cm and rem for the kids to keep up with the 6.5-284 at the ranges that THEY'LL be shooting, but when we go on hog tour, they can keep their mid speed charges and I'll probably grab a Grendel because I don't need shock and awe at 300 but low recoil rapid follow up destruction at close range intrigues me. Up close that Grendel is less likely to cause jacket separation. Back out to open prairie ranges, and it will be a novelty "toy" for friends and kids learning to shoot can practice with.
ETA, I'm not much of an ar guy and while I can offer no reason to complain about howa this is a great excuse to pick up a cz as they're one I've been eyeing for years.
 
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These have me very much considering getting out of my AR for anything besides the .458, now to sell stuff and scrounge money. Is considered the howa, but ive once again affirmed i hate the hogue rifle stock. CZ is high on muh list lol.
 
I think I'll try to get one of these. Not sure about the aged beechwood stocks though. Sure like those Turkish walnut stocks.
 
FWIW, having had both beech & walnut stocked CZ's for a number of years now... the beech stocks have been noticeably more resistant to dings, scratches etc. Will confess to liking the Turkish walnut a bit more due to it's looks.
"Aged" beech in the website photo looks pretty good, looking forward to seeing it up close & in person.
 
horsey300 said:
The Grendel is not for everyone, I like the creedmoor and rem 6.5s for my day to day locations, but if I were hunting closer in and knew shots would always always always be 250 or less, the Grendel fits in perfectly for everything I would attempt to shoot with the faster 6.5 cartridges. I'm looking at one each of the cm and rem for the kids to keep up with the 6.5-284 at the ranges that THEY'LL be shooting, but when we go on hog tour, they can keep their mid speed charges and I'll probably grab a Grendel because I don't need shock and awe at 300 but low recoil rapid follow up destruction at close range intrigues me. Up close that Grendel is less likely to cause jacket separation. Back out to open prairie ranges, and it will be a novelty "toy" for friends and kids learning to shoot can practice with.
ETA, I'm not much of an ar guy and while I can offer no reason to complain about howa this is a great excuse to pick up a cz as they're one I've been eyeing for years.
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Well you have things a little twisted to start with. I sold a Creedmoor and bought a grendel ar. I tool 2 whitetails with it right after Christmas, one @ 326yds and the other was @ 278yds. The one @ 326 dropped right where it stood with a facing shot. The other may have gone 75yds. This is now my go to rifle from 0-500yds. My 6.5-06 will take over past that.
 
farmerboy78 said:
Well you have things a little twisted to start with. I sold a Creedmoor and bought a grendel ar. I tool 2 whitetails with it right after Christmas, one @ 326yds and the other was @ 278yds. The one @ 326 dropped right where it stood with a facing shot. The other may have gone 75yds. This is now my go to rifle from 0-500yds. My 6.5-06 will take over past that.
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I don't think it's twisted, based on the ballistic capabilities and bullets available and what I personally expect out of my rifle's performance, 250ish is what I am comfortable with. I didn't say that was a standard for everyone, just that that was my intended use. If one deer dropped at a farther distance and another ran 75 yds, I'd guess your test sample is too small to convince me that I'm not giving the Grendel enough credit. I think it's got a lot of potential for a variety of uses, I'm just not going to stretch it too far when other capable cartridges are already at my disposal.
 
I love the CZ 527 Rifle. I see that the Grendel (6.5x39) shares the parent cartridge of the 220 Russian and the 7.62x39. This would mean an easy adaptation for CZ. The Grendel certainly has good performance with lighter bullets lighter than what the Creedmoor might, but that isn't necessarily a bad thing. But if you want above 120 grains, it would seem there are other choices. If you were starting with the CZ, the Grendel makes the most conversion sense. I would consider one.
 
Upon closer inspection, it looks like CZ will be offering the 6.5 Grendel in the traditional 527 American and also in this new 527 American RUSTIC which has the aged beechwood stock. So you'll be able to get either the walnut stock or the beechwood stock. Neither models are showing up at any of my distributors, so it doesn't look like it's possible yet for dealers to order them.

They are also offering the aged beechwood stock in the 7.62x39 carbine as well. Pretty interesting. I'll be excited to see what some of these "rustic" model stocks look like.
 
dh1633pm said:
I love the CZ 527 Rifle. I see that the Grendel (6.5x39) shares the parent cartridge of the 220 Russian and the 7.62x39. This would mean an easy adaptation for CZ. The Grendel certainly has good performance with lighter bullets lighter than what the Creedmoor might, but that isn't necessarily a bad thing. But if you want above 120 grains, it would seem there are other choices. If you were starting with the CZ, the Grendel makes the most conversion sense. I would consider one.
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Exactly, running a 100 gr or 120 gr pill at 2400 fps (for the 120) is what I like about it for the hog scenario, if I drop to the 100 gr, I'm looking at a .243 with worse SD, worse b.c. and lower mv. My long range loads with the Norma start 120-130 running faster than the Grendel 100gr loads but I still can't not look at that cz in 6.5 Grendel and drool a little bit!
 
I have a Howa Mini and it's a great rifle. CZ has a winner here in this cartridge/action. I also have a CZ but not in that cartridge. I would seriously be torn between a Howa and a CZ mini. My CZ doesn't have a set trigger and I've never used one. Not sure about that part. Howa has a decent 2 stage trigger.
 
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I've just completed (really?) a Howa mini-action in 6.5 Grendel, MDT LSS chassis, Timney trigger. Took a bit of detective work to figure out where the safety selector was binding on the chassis but, we did. I think this one will be a great shooter. As a CZ 527 owner, 7.62x39, it'd be nice to see a 6.5 Grendel chambering. Meanwhile, I got some Grendel loads to work up :)
 
bikemutt said:
I've just completed (really?) a Howa mini-action in 6.5 Grendel, MDT LSS chassis, Timney trigger. Took a bit of detective work to figure out where the safety selector was binding on the chassis but, we did. I think this one will be a great shooter. As a CZ 527 owner, 7.62x39, it'd be nice to see a 6.5 Grendel chambering. Meanwhile, I got some Grendel loads to work up :)
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Couldn't wait for the company to build it? :D You probably have a nice custom with a better trigger although I like my Howa mini .223 trigger. You're just ahead of the curve.:cool:
 
farmerboy78 said:
Well you have things a little twisted to start with. I sold a Creedmoor and bought a grendel ar. I tool 2 whitetails with it right after Christmas, one @ 326yds and the other was @ 278yds. The one @ 326 dropped right where it stood with a facing shot. The other may have gone 75yds. This is now my go to rifle from 0-500yds. My 6.5-06 will take over past that.
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Anyone who says they take 500> yd shots has very little hunting experience unless you're just trying to cripple game and forget about it. :(

Sounds good on the internet. BS alarm going off here..
 
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CoalTrain49, I agree, except there are more than a few right here that don't talk about it that are capable of such a feat. I am not one of them. I do practice out to 300.

I also like my Creedmoor. I also like my CZ527 in 7.62x39 and the other in .204 Ruger. I can certainly see why CZ made the switch. I would consider the Grendel in a CZ.
 
I'm not familiar with this round, but I'm trying to decide where it "fits" in the scheme of things...

After nearly buying a 527, and handling several since, it wouldn't take much of an excuse for me to buy one. However, I already have a 7.62x39 (Savage) that I love, so I'm wondering why I would need both the 6.5 Grendel and my 7.62x39
 
Wahoo! I have been waiting for this for a while. Now I don't need to keep futzing over which AR upper to buy and it will be the perfect companion to my x39 carbine. Watch out coyotes!
 
I'm wondering why I would need both the 6.5 Grendel and my 7.62x39
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The x39 will be my shorter range gun and the 6.5 will be my longer range gun. If you already have a x39 CZ, you will enjoy magazine interchangeability and the same ergos.
 
Newtosavage said:
I'm not familiar with this round, but I'm trying to decide where it "fits" in the scheme of things...

After nearly buying a 527, and handling several since, it wouldn't take much of an excuse for me to buy one. However, I already have a 7.62x39 (Savage) that I love, so I'm wondering why I would need both the 6.5 Grendel and my 7.62x39
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The grendel, especially from a bolt gun, will give you similar weight bullets, with much higher bcs and sd (but a loss to frontal area), at the same or slightly higher velocity than an x39. Personally i dont think it will make a night and day difference, unless your shots are going to exceed 300yds regularly.
As i don't already own an x39, ill most likely get the Grendel to gain that edge.
I also have a grendel AR upper, but if I go for the CZ I'll probably sell it.
 
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