Czech Republic: not just awesome guns, but awesome gun laws!

[Bohemus]

Bohemus,
Co takhle na dvě nebo tři? Nejraději plzeňské.
Prajem všetko dobré z SK.
Bývalý Čechoslovák a pražák.

Zdravím k sousedům
Znáš to: Dvě nejčastější české lži:
"Jdeme na jedno"
"Ještě jedno a půjdem"
A pokud jde o pivo, tak nejraději Koutské, ale polotmavý nealkoholický Bernard také není špatný, když má člověk na opasku víc než jen kalhoty.
Mimochodem, na tebe se nabídka vztahuje také a mniši na Strahově vařit umějí (jen ne to nealko).


Guys, as I see, Washington DC is to Americans as Bruxelles is to Europeans :banghead:
And i didnt even ask about carrying gun bought in Europe... It would be nice to establish reciprocity among states and countries which enable ccw (US, CZ, SK, ES etc).

 

[7624452]

Interesting video. One question--Why is it that in a nine minute video, showing 30+ shooters, only three people are wearing eye protection?

I would prefer to decide for myself what is safe, rather than having it mandated by a government.

 

[Sam1911]

I would prefer to decide for myself what is safe, rather than having it mandated by a government.

Who said anything about governments mandating safety gear? We, the shooting public, do (or should) demand it of ourselves and each other!

 

[Bohemus]

Bohemus, thanks for your quick answer .

Read that link. Hope the defendant is lucky and gets away successfully with no charges, because that " the investigation continues to find out whether the shooter defended himself by adequate means" doesn't sound good. It sounds bad because here, we've had officers charged in court for defending themselves with a firearm from an attack with a blade gun. As stupid as it sounds. "Adequate means"?. I wonder what means they'd suggest a person uses if found in such a situation, but as you say, better have your family bring you cigarettes to prison, than flowers to your grave (that is the Spanish version of the same thing).

What about defending your home from invasions?. Is trespassing enough of a reason to shoot whoever breaks in?.

The case was closed as self defence, but it took quite a lot of time.
http://zpravy.idnes.cz/zalobce-odlo...maci.aspx?c=A120618_084001_liberec-zpravy_alh
adequate means are wrong translation - law says "wholly obviously inadequate". CZ doesnt have "castle doctrine", its more like "stand your ground".

 

[Bohemus]

He said we have lax gun laws..

 

[Bohemus]

http://www.commongunsense.com/2013/04/gun-laws-in-czech-republic.html
What a load of BullS....

 

[ArnoldV]

Iramo94: There are no re-qualifications, you have to renew the licence every 5 years, but you do the test only once. You have to pass medical examination though - e.g. those who have epilepsy are discvalified, short sight (not correctable by glasses) etc.

Thread "photos of our guns" at Czech site. Generally US export rules causes some problems, especially with optics or special guns - e.g. I've seen only one civilian owned Barrett .50 its great hassle to import it, even though its in the same category as .22lr Remington 597.

230RN. That video is from "open day" of local shooting range for nonshooting folks. While i know real marksman should begin with .22lr rifle, main point of this event is to show people how does it work and that shooters are not loonies. Shooters bring all their staf and visitors try what they want, its obvious which guns prevail..
Its some kind of PR to prevent aversion toward shooting range and guns.

I was thinking about taking my favorite Ruger SR-22 to swap for a CZ. Are Ruger .22 popular there? I also have a Sig Sauer .45 i could take. Can i sell/trade them there? AS i mentioned before, i have a CA CCW and FFL-03.
ArnoldV [email protected]

 

[Ignition Override]

Bohemus:
Too bad that All of the excellent Czech VZ-24 Mausers must have been exported to the US many years ago. But at least the VZ-58 has been discovered by so many people, many of whom have lost interest in the AKs.

Just read tonight about the CZ-75 Compact (9mm Luger), but it seems to be a bit longer and thicker than the Sig 230/232. This Sig is the Right size for CCW inside normal (non-baggy) pants.

We visited Prague about twelve years ago and enjoyed the city.

 

[skoro]

I visited Prague two years ago; what a wonderful city. Impressive architecture, wonderful beer, great food and LOTS of beautiful women. (my wife noticed that, too)

I had no idea that they had such reasonable gun laws, but it's good to know that they do.

 

[230RN]

Post 35, 15 Jan 2012

I was hoping someone would ask about reloading there. I'm sure presses, dies, and components are available, but how "common" is it? That's a relative question, but I'd like to hear something about it. Does the Berdan Primer situation inhibit people from learning reloading much?

I'm still wondering about that. I haven't seen anyone address the question, unless I missed it somehow.

Terry, 230RN

 

[nwilliams]

I visited Prague a couple months ago and fell in love with that city! Such a beautiful city and so many beautiful women it was hard to take in, especially for a single guy like me in my early 30's, it was heaven on earth! The icing on the cake is the gun laws, if you became a citizen there (which is very difficult btw) you can enjoy some of the best gun laws in the world. Sadly becoming a citizen of the CR is very challenging, otherwise I would probably consider moving there.

Before I went I contacted CZ and asked if I could tour their factory, this is the response I got:

Dear Mr. Williams,
We are very pleased that you like our firearms. With regard to your question about the factory tour, of course we can arrange it. There is only one thing to do, I need exact term of your visit, full names of all visitors and their passport numbers.
Just for sure, CZ factory isn't in Brno, but in Uhersky Brod. The address is Svatopluka Cecha 1283, 688 27 Uhersky Brod.

Yours faithfully,

David Hradil

Sadly I didn't make it to the factory and it's one of my big regrets about my trip. I am planing to go back to the CR next year and hopefully I'll get to the factory this time.

I did however visit the CZ store in Prague and that was amazing! I snapped off some pictures with my cell phone while I was there.

 

[230RN]

Uh-uh-uhn-uhnnn....ahhhhh....

 

[Bohemus]

Post 35, 15 Jan 2012



I'm still wondering about that. I haven't seen anyone address the question, unless I missed it somehow.

Terry, 230RN

Please, accept my apology. I missed your post.

About reloading in Czechia: its rather retarded.
Firsts - reloading is legal for sport-licence holders (gun licence B) noone knows why not for others..
Primers and smokeles powder are only for gunlicence holders, other components (cases, bullets) are unregulated. There is also no regulation about reloading tools.
The second retarded thing is storage limit - while you can store unlimited quantity of cartriges, you can have only 1000 primers and 3 kg of powder at once..

 

[Surculus]

Unless you consider 18 USC 922 g (5) to be 'no reason,' uh, no. The topic is concealed carry by foreign nationals. Caveat B to the law referenced above covers the temporary loan of a firearm to any person for lawful sporting purposes. It strains credulity to assert that concealed carry for self defense will be considered a lawful sporting purpose by any federal prosecutor.

Judge: "Why did you loan your gun to a furriner?!?"

'Murrican: "We wuz huntin'."

Judge: "What were you hunting?"

'Murrican: "Beanz!"

Judge: "What kind of beans require a handgun to harvest?"

'Murrican: "Human beanz!"

Judge: "That will be 50 to life in Club Fed for you!"

 

[barnbwt]

"The second retarded thing is storage limit - while you can store unlimited quantity of cartriges, you can have only 1000 primers and 3 kg of powder at once..."
That's not totally divorced from things over here; we have limits on black powder storage volumes (which makes a lot more practical sense, given the substance's true explosive qualities) as well on how smokeless may be stored. Municipalities have local ordinances on powder, primers (and probably gasoline, too) that go on top of the federal laws. However, obviously due to lack of registration/inspection in most places, the rules are unenforceable, and largely unknown or forgotten until the police or fire department happen across a "super-scary hyper-terrorist double-o ninja-assassin armory-stockpile-weapons-cache magazine-clip" and the local prosecutor feels like earning some medals by rail-roading a poor sap into prison.

TCB

 

[barnbwt]

"Judge: "That will be 50 to life in Club Fed for you!""

Should've just bought the tags like I'd told 'im to...

TCB

 

[Bohemus]

Problem is, that gunshops have to register your purchase - which is now on-line:-/ (interestingly, Switzerland paid us for this system to find out if its possible to implement this system in their country - damn you cheese makers!)
There are also limits on black powder, but as it doesnt ruquire licence, its hard to control..

 

[Surculus]

There are also limits on black powder, but as it doesnt ruquire licence, its hard to control..

Too difficult to control that anyway, since the raw materials are so common. About the only thing our govt. has tried was having the suppliers put microtaggants in fertilizer so they can trace a source down after a bomb goes off. Don't know how that ever played out, I remember there was a big fuss over it a couple decades ago because the Feds wanted to extend it to the smokeless arena & everyone got upset [& rightfully so, since smokeless powder is a propellant, not an explosive.]

 

[Snejdarek]

Problem is, that gunshops have to register your purchase - which is now on-line:-/

Well if you buy 3 kilos on Monday and 3 kilos on Friday, they will still have no way to establish that you are storing 6 kilos in your house notwithstanding the online database. Having more than 3 is only misdemeanor and they can't get house search warrant for a misdemeanor.

About reloading in Czechia: its rather retarded.

Off topic, but man, Czechia really hurts my ears.

Firsts - reloading is legal for sport-licence holders (gun licence B) noone knows why not for others..

One should note that most gun owners have both B (sport shooting) and E (self-defense, incl. CC) license at the same time, so the legal restriction on reloading for B is a moot one.

Two years ago, a guy had a small explosion in his flat while reloading, just opposite to my building. Windows out, some burn damage both on flat as on himself, but no loss of life.

The problem was that he had quite a few guns at home, and far, far more than 3 kilos of powder. Whole building was evacuated and it took the cops in those crazy anti-explosives suits whole night to clear the flat.

It was the building on the picture. Finding out that someone stores dozen or more kilos of black powder just behind your kids' bedroom wall is not something anyone would like.

 

[Crawdad1]

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And pretty girls too..

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