Daniel Defense H9, reboot of Hudson H9

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Hipster gun reborn - Daniel Defense H9 - worth the wait.

The Daniel Defense H9 is the successor to the Hudson H9 - which was a giant catastrophe. Unlike the Hudson - the Daniel delivers on the promise of the desig...
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So Daniel Defense redid the Hudson H9 and made a lot of changes after years of testing. I think this will be a very good gun now since quality control and manufacturing will be leaps and bounds ahead of what Hudson could offer. I won’t run out and purchase this right away, but 6 months to a year from now I think I will buy one if it has really good reviews. I don’t beta test guns.
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DANIEL™ H9®

Daniel Defense has done for the handgun what we did for the AR-style rifle—taken it to a whole new level. Our revolutionary DANIEL™ H9® combines the ergonomics and pointability of a 1911 with the easy shooting and maintenance of a striker-fired pistol. A low bore axis reduces recoil and...
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Anybody else interested in this cool little gun?
 
Well, I have mostly aged-out of compact nines, but, if that back strap is tall enough to reach the “heel bone” of my hand, I may, finally, be interested in acquiring a newly-introduced small-ish 9mm pistol, for the first time in a number of years. (A grip that does not reach the “heel bone” of my hand will allow recoil to seriously vex the arthritic-part of my hand/wrist. Bigger pistols are now my friends.)

Edited to add: The “adult-length” reach to the face of the trigger is something I truly appreciate. A too-short reach to the trigger is why the Kahr K9 did not work out, for me.
 
mgmorden said:
According to TFB.tv, the only part that will swap is the striker block spring. Everything else won't transfer.
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That’s a real bummer for original Hudson owners, once it goes down they have a $1100 paper weight
 
jjones45 said:
That’s a real bummer for original Hudson owners, once it goes down they have a $1100 paper weight
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They've already got an $1100 paper weight. The guns have almost no parts support -- I think KE Arms was/is handling some service and repair, and they still have some parts, but not every part. So if you shoot it and something breaks (and I believe the slide stop has proven not to be very durable), chances are high you won't be able to get it fixed. So people are treating them like any other collectible, and they are stored more than they are shot.

I'll get one. I have an H9, and I am gratified to see the original mags will work in the Daniel Defense update, though they'll stick out a bit, as the grip of the original H9 was longer. I'm glad to see Daniel Defense is making it a little more compact, and alloy framed, which will make it far better for carry. Daniel Defense, as noted, will be able to offer far better manufacturing and QC than Hudson could, and the fact that they've been working on this pistol for the past four years indicates they really took their time to get all the bugs out before bringing it to market. One issue that I really hope they fixed is the slight gap between the "wings" of the G10 backstrap tang, and the frame. That gap, and the sharp points on the outer front edge of the tang would rub sores into the web of your hand after a box of ammo or two.
 
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After watching Colion Noir's video (blam blam blam blam *giggle*). I would be interested in buying one in six months or so to let any initial teething problems become apparent.
 
jjones45 said:
youtu.be

Hipster gun reborn - Daniel Defense H9 - worth the wait.

The Daniel Defense H9 is the successor to the Hudson H9 - which was a giant catastrophe. Unlike the Hudson - the Daniel delivers on the promise of the desig...
youtu.be youtu.be
So Daniel Defense redid the Hudson H9 and made a lot of changes after years of testing. I think this will be a very good gun now since quality control and manufacturing will be leaps and bounds ahead of what Hudson could offer. I won’t run out and purchase this right away, but 6 months to a year from now I think I will buy one if it has really good reviews. I don’t beta test guns.
danieldefense.com

DANIEL™ H9®

Daniel Defense has done for the handgun what we did for the AR-style rifle—taken it to a whole new level. Our revolutionary DANIEL™ H9® combines the ergonomics and pointability of a 1911 with the easy shooting and maintenance of a striker-fired pistol. A low bore axis reduces recoil and...
danieldefense.com danieldefense.com
Anybody else interested in this cool little gun?
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Definitely COOL! wish they would have them in .40!
 
Jim Watson said:
I went to the indoor range today and sure enough they had a DD H9 for demo.
I think
Pro
Grip is OK, angle lets it come on target like 1911.
Low bore and muzzle weight make it shoot "flat."

Con
Godawful trigger.
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Maybe you encountered a bad one. I don't know. I haven't handled one yet, but I do own an original Hudson H9, and there is nothing wrong with the trigger on that gun. I know this new H9 is an almost complete redesign, but that redesign is a matter of specifications, tolerances, dimensions, and so on; the basic design has not been altered in any way. The original H9, and this new Daniel Defense variant both have the same 1911-inspired, straight back-pull trigger. If the original was good (and I know it is on mine), it's hard to see how this could be that bad. So I have to think that some quality control defect is the likely culprit. But even if it's not, it's probably not a hard problem for a good gunsmith to fix, though I admit that would be a mark against a gun sold at this price point.

All in all, I have high hopes for the new version of the H9. This strikes me as a very similar to the Boberg XR9 -- a neat and innovative new design from a small, startup company, that in the end, simply didn't have the resources and capital reserves to design, engineer, debug, and manufacture the pistol in quantity, but which is then picked up by an established company that does have greater resources and capital reserves, and which can work out those bugs and bring a reliable gun to market. Bond Arms apparently solved most, if not all, of the XR9 issues, and continues to successfully market the gun today. I hope it will be so with Daniel Defense and the H9. I think the gun beautifully combines several of the most desirable features of the 1911 and the modern, striker-fired pistol which is now so dominant, and then on top of that manages to lower the bore axis as much as possible. The result, if done properly, should be a reliable, ergonomic, accurate pistol, with a great trigger, and the lowest possible bore axis, which should make faster follow-up shots easier to achieve successfully than almost any of its competitors.
 
I have seen other reports of good triggers on original Hudsons. This is not a Hudson.

The only statement I saw on the DD H9 was at P-F and said:
"Trigger was awkward. Shooting at speed felt horrible (even quick indoor range speed)"
Maybe a tuber got one with a good trigger... or bad; I seldom sit through those.

I haven't handled one yet
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Call back when you have.
 
jjones45 said:
That’s a real bummer for original Hudson owners, once it goes down they have a $1100 paper weight
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It’s so funny how sone people think. There are a TON of discontinued pistols that are no longer serviced.

The original will be collectible in years to come. Why anyone would rely on it for daily shooting is beyond me. That’s not its role any longer.

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Remember the Bren Ten? It suffered a similar fate that the Hudson did. I have two unfired in the box that I bought years back. Paid under $8000 combined. Today the pair would bring north of $30K and climbing.






The Hudson won’t be another Bren Ten, but it will most definitely go up significantly. They have already started that trend. :cool:
 
To each his own, I buy guns to shoot them and/or carry them, not let them sit and collect dust because I might not be able to get them serviced. I’m no collector, I’m an enthusiast. I understand those that do, but that’s just not my desire.
 
jjones45 said:
To each his own, I buy guns to shoot them and/or carry them, not let them sit and collect dust because I might not be able to get them serviced. I’m no collector, I’m an enthusiast. I understand those that do, but that’s just not my desire.
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Understandable

I have plenty of that too. I own the best shooting handguns in the world that I use for matches and range days, but I also have collectibles. The Hudson is a collectible now.
 
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tarosean said:
Lots of guns have failed. Not all guns have the benefit of a TV show/pop culture 40yrs later
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Very true, but many guns that failed bring good money these days without an 80’s TV show. The Hudson will never be a Bren Ten, but 15-20 years from now, they will have some value.
 
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