December 7th: Pearl Harbor Anniversary

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behind every blade of grass." -- attributed (but never uttered) by General Yamamoto and/or various other Japanese generals when contemplating an invasion of the US mainland.

Remembering Pearl Harbor
At dawn on Sunday, December 7, 1941 65 years ago today, naval aviation forces of the Empire of Japan attacked the United States Pacific Fleet center at Pearl Harbor, Hawaii and other military targets. The goal of this attack was to sufficiently cripple the US Fleet so that Japan could then attack and capture the Phillipines and Indo-China and so secure access to the raw materials needed to maintain its position as a global military and economic power. Airfields, port facilities, and warships were attacked and severely damaged. Of the nine Pacific Fleet battleships at Pearl that day, Utah and Arizona were completely destroyed and the Oklahoma was salvaged but considered obsolete and designated for scrap. All other battleships were returned to service. The expected result of the attack was to cripple the U. S. Pacific Fleet for a period of up to eighteen months, preventing aggressive action against imperial forces, with the fleet to later be drawn out into a final battle and destroyed. This goal eluded the Japanese as U. S. forces were acting aggressively in the South Pacific within 60 days and the fleet was fully effective within a year. There was never the kind of massive fleet battle that the Japanese hoped for. The attack was almost a complete tactical success. By a matter of chance, of the three of the Pacific Fleet carriers that would normally be at Pearl that morning, two were at sea on exercises and one was on the U. S. west coast undergoing maintenance. Not knowing the location of these ships that could attack his strike force would cause the tactical commander, Admiral Nagumo to withdraw before a planned third strike, sparing the Pacific Fleet submarine force, important maintenance facilities and critical fuel supplies. The survival of the repair shops would enable rapid restoration of the fighting capability of the fleet. The carriers would enable the first blow to be struck against the Japanese homeland in the Doolittle raid, would prove to be decisive in the Battle of the Coral Sea, where the Japanese forces were turned back in their thrust toward Australia, and would prove essential to U. S. success in the Battle of Midway Island, where naval aviation forces from U.S. carriers sank four Imperial carriers.

May those who made the ultimate sacrifice finally rest in peace.

Please, no Japan-bashing, no "that-war-was juist, this-one-isn't" or other diversions.

stay safe.

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Thats Admiral Yamamoto to you, he is also the one who stated

"I fear that we have awakened a sleeping giant and filled him with a terrible resolve". Admiral Isoroku Yamamoto

Just a little edumucation for ya.

My grandfather got two purple hearts fighting the japanese, he was an ordinance man on the Saratoga, he fought in the phillipines as a tail gunner in SBD's and watched the bikini bomb tests and watched the Saratoga take 7 1/2 hours to sink after sustaining 3 nuclear bomb blasts, I miss him very much.
 
Ladies and Gentlemen...

My respects and thanks to those serving, here and gone at that little place out west...

...Pearl Harbor
 
FDR

"Mr. Vice President, Mr. Speaker, Members of the Senate, and of the House of Representatives:
Yesterday, December 7th, 1941 — a date which will live in infamy — the United States of America was suddenly and deliberately attacked by naval and air forces of the Empire of Japan.

The United States was at peace with that nation and, at the solicitation of Japan, was still in conversation with its government and its emperor looking toward the maintenance of peace in the Pacific.

Indeed, one hour after Japanese air squadrons had commenced bombing in the American island of Oahu, the Japanese ambassador to the United States and his colleagues delivered to our Secretary of State a formal reply to a recent American message. While this reply stated that it seemed useless to continue the existing diplomatic negotiations, it contained no threat or hint of war or of armed attack.

It will be recorded that the distance of Hawaii from Japan makes it obvious that the attack was deliberately planned many days or even weeks ago. During the intervening time, the Japanese government has deliberately sought to deceive the United States by false statements and expressions of hope for continued peace.

The attack yesterday on the Hawaiian islands has caused severe damage to American naval and military forces. I regret to tell you that very many American lives have been lost. In addition, American ships have been reported torpedoed on the high seas between San Francisco and Honolulu.

Yesterday, the Japanese government also launched an attack against Malaya.

Last night, Japanese forces attacked Hong Kong.

Last night, Japanese forces attacked Guam.

Last night, Japanese forces attacked the Philippine Islands.

Last night, the Japanese attacked Wake Island.

This morning, the Japanese attacked Midway Island.

Japan has, therefore, undertaken a surprise offensive extending throughout the Pacific area. The facts of yesterday and today speak for themselves. The people of the United States have already formed their opinions and well understand the implications to the very life and safety of our nation. As commander in chief of the Army and Navy, I have directed that all measures be taken for our defense. But always will our whole nation remember the character of the onslaught against us.

No matter how long it may take us to overcome this premeditated invasion, the American people in their righteous might will win through to absolute victory.

I believe that I interpret the will of the Congress and of the people when I assert that we will not only defend ourselves to the uttermost, but will make it very certain that this form of treachery shall never again endanger us.

Hostilities exist. There is no blinking at the fact that our people, our territory, and our interests are in grave danger.

With confidence in our armed forces, with the unbounding determination of our people, we will gain the inevitable triumph — so help us God.

I ask that the Congress declare that since the unprovoked and dastardly attack by Japan on Sunday, December 7th, 1941, a state of war has existed between the United States and the Japanese empire."

Franklin D. Roosevelt
 
An interesting footnote

I recall reading many years ago that the only reason the Pearl Harbor attack succeeded as well as it did was that the Navy violated their own policy on fleet deployment during negotiations with a hostile power.

The policy, if I remember rightly, is/was that during such negotiations, the fleet "shall be deployed at sea, whereabouts unknown."

What they actually DID was line them up in a "parking lot" and practically guaranteed success for anyone ballsy enough to take the shot.

I don't believe anyone ever got smacked for that goof, though you would not have expected anyone to be publicly "caned" for it.

I can see the conversation, quietly, in a teak-paneled office somewhere:
"You moron! Nearly the whole fleet, tied up in port during hostile negotiations?"
"Sorry, sir, but with the preparation for the inspection and ceremonies . . ."
"Fool. Dammit, man. Well, look, it's not going on your record. FDR was able to parlay this into a declaration of war, so the fault has to be seen as entirely with Japan. Just don't let it happen again."
"Yes, sir."
"That is all. Dismissed."​
 
No one got smacked for that goof?

This will come at some surprise to Admiral Kimmel and Lt. General Short who had nothing but smacks delievered to them, and had nothing but smacks until the summer of 1999. That's over 50 years of smacking.:scrutiny:

*Professor El Tejon puts on tweed jacket with leather elbow patches and sucks on pipe*

Let me tell you young whippersnappers about the Roberts Commission.:D
 
While we're remembering Pearl Harbor, let's also remember Wake Island. The Japanese captured it with a small group of US Marines and a couple of hundred civilian construction and airline workers. That anniversary is between now and the next three to five days, IIRC.
 
I doubt the Chinese see us today as the Japanese saw us back then.
Take the number of people in the US that own guns, then factor in how many are old (like me), how many are overweight, and how many are apathetic, 100 million Chinese troops might be able to take us pretty easily. They may not have the will to do so, but eventually they will get angry about holding so much of our worthless debt. Considering their population at one billion, it shouldn't be too difficult for their rulers to muster up a couple hundred million.
 
100 million Chinese troops might be able to take us pretty easily.

Well considering that in 2003 they only had about 2.5 million in their armed forces...they've got a long way to go to get to 100 million. I'm pretty sure we'd be clued in to their buildup long before they reached that number. And if they had 100-200 million in their armed forces, I'm pretty sure they'd be armed with pitchforks or sticks because no way could they equip that number.

Back to the topic at hand. I read that this year may well be the last reunion of survivors in Pearl Harbor. Most of them are in their mid-80's and they only do them once every 5 years. The passing of a great generation is at hand. I only hope that their sacrifice is never forgotten.
 
Some remember, my Dad passed away in Jan. 03, partially due to illness related to his service in WWII. He was a Flight Engineer on C-87s flying "The Hump" from China to Burma, to India with over 1000 hours logged over the Hump. The long periods at high altitude in extreme cold, in unpressurized cabins led to many physical problems in his later years. He however, worked 39 years for Southwestern Bell, spending the first 7 in West Texas as a lineman. He was one of those fix-it kind of guys that worked equally well in electronics, metal, wood, you name it. He was amazing, and still always had time for his family, whether it was working on a bicycle, or teaching my brother and I to hunt and fish. It was only in the last couple of years he was alive that we could even get him to talk about his military service, and then mostly about interesting things that happened or "Great Guys" he served with. Not to detract from our service men and women in the military today, but that generation saw it as nothing more than an obligation to be filled, with no acknowledgement expected. We are losing so many of these fine folks everyday, and they still have valuable lessons to teach us.
 
From the son of a Veteran. Thanks to all who served and sacrificed, and to those who serve in harms way now. I salute you.

The final scene in Saving Private Ryan gets me every time. He thinks...Why did I get to live when others died? Was I worth others sacrifice? Some of the living stuggle with that all their lives when their brothers in arms didn't make it. We should strive as a people in a free nation to make all our fallen heros proud. 12-07-06
 
Mad Turner

I joined Highroad on December 7 2006 not really appreciating that it was Pearl Day but I know that if the Japanese hadn't attacked, Hitler would not have declared war on America which would have remained neutral and poor old England would probably have been invaded and as I live in England I dont think I would have liked that even though I was a little kid at the time. I have been reading this site for a while and enjoy tremendously the comradeship that the members enjoy and the way they help each other. The grammar and the spelling of the Queens English makes me shudder sometimes as I am an Englishman in England and have a reasonably good education but what the heck, it's your language too and you can spell it and speak it however you want. In support of the USA I have a soldier grandson in the British Army who has just gone to serve in Iraq.
 
When I hear that 500 survivors of PH were there today to honor their servicemates, then hear some young punk on the radio, who was asked to name 3 wars that America had been in and he couldn't even think of one that occurred in his time, I just want to smash something.:banghead:

I remember and honor everyone who has served from the Revolutionary war to those in harms way today and tomorrow!!!
 
A friend reminded me, I've been so buried in books for a week without doing anything else on the weekends and I'm all messed up on dates. I thought Wednesday was Monday. Oops.

Emotional day though. I made sure to drop a line to all my family to remind them to pray for my grandfather who passed a few years back, he was a Navy vet in the Pacific. My respects to all the men and women in service of our country and especially our veterans always, and especially to the Navy and Marines today.
 
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