December 7th: Pearl Harbor Anniversary

[Waywatcher]

I lost some repect for NPR today, they mentioned the anniversary of Pearl Harbor and used it to launch a program about the japanese internment camps.

Dont get me wrong, those camps were despicable, but their focus should have been more on Dec 7 related events, like all the armed service members who died while defending, FDR's speech, anything.

It seemed very, very leftist to focus on that. It'd be like "comemorating" the 9-11 victims by having a story about gitmo. Poor taste IMHO

 

[ArfinGreebly]

Mad Turner

Welcome to The High Road, and thank you for your support. Fraffly caned a few, Em shaw.

I'm afraid our take on the King's English - - is descended from Cockney as influenced by Cornwall and a little sprinkling of French and much else.

Fink nuffink uv it, guv'na. Hits noice to 'ave yer wiff us, innit?

I wish your son the best.

 

[magsnubby]

I always have good cause to remember December 7th. My dad was a WW2 veteren, My father-in-law, a WW2 vet, was buried on December 7th. But on a brighter note, today is my grandaughter's 14th birthday.

 

[Brutus45]

Me too

I remember and honor everyone who has served from the Revolutionary war to those in harms way today and tomorrow!!!

We enjoy freedom today because of the men and women who have answered this country's duty call!

 

[oneshooter]

It's my birthday, does that count?

Oneshooter
Livin in Texas

 

[Pilgrim]

sindawe, you know you're the 5th person to mention it's his mother's birthday?

December 8, Japanese Pearl Harbor Day, is the ex-PMS's birthday.

Pilgrim

 

[CrazyIrishman]

I appreciate the sacrifice that all the veterans of our country have done for US from the beginning in 1775 to 2006 and beyond!

In remembrance of todays date, 7 December, I give thanks to our WWII veterans who are gone but not forgotten and to those who are still with us!

My uncle was a Navy veteran in the ETO and my dad was in the merchant marine w/ prior service in the USCG. He spent time in the pacific, european theater, and on Russian convoys to Murmansk & Vladivostok. He seldom spoke about his service until shortly before he passed.

My hope is for todays generation to get their head out of the sand and finally show appreciation for the sacrifice that past and present veterans have done for this country! Guess I'm dreamin' though!

 

[44AMP]

"No services today, my son.."

"Praise the Lord and pass the ammunition!" - attributed to a USN Chaplin at Pearl Harbor.

The film "Tora, Tora, Tora!" does the best overall job of accurately telling the story of any I have seen. The more recent film "Pearl Harbor" is full of so many inaccuracies and outright bull that it is not worth watching for historical content.

The Japanese attack was a masterpiece of planning and execution. Unfortunately for them, their diplomatic service was not as efficient as their military. They actually intended to deliver their ultimatum, and then attack. It didn't work out that way, the attack happened first.

I do have to give the Japanese credit for one thing, at least when they attacked the US without warning and killed over 2,000 Americans they used their own planes, clearly marked with their national insignia!

 

[mustanger98]

The film "Tora, Tora, Tora!" does the best overall job of accurately telling the story of any I have seen. The more recent film "Pearl Harbor" is full of so many inaccuracies and outright bull that it is not worth watching for historical content.

I haven't seen "Tora Tora Tora!" to compare, but I did see "Pearl Harbor" when my sister had it on DVD. I agree about inaccuracies and bull, however, I saw where they seemed to want the characters to represent "every American" who was there or involved in the Doolittle raid to have some continuity in their storyline. In doing so, I agree that they put characters in the situations in ways they wouldn't and mostly couldn't have been continously in and out of those situations.

But considering this part about...

The Japanese attack was a masterpiece of planning and execution. Unfortunately for them, their diplomatic service was not as efficient as their military. They actually intended to deliver their ultimatum, and then attack. It didn't work out that way, the attack happened first.

...the "Pearl Harbor" film did cut in and out of this aspect, but the way movies are editted, and I think it's unfortunate, the whole story never seems to get told as it happened even when history accuracy is addressed.

I do have to give the Japanese credit for one thing, at least when they attacked the US without warning and killed over 2,000 Americans they used their own planes, clearly marked with their national insignia!

I don't want to get into Japan-bashing or get too deep into comparing WW2 with the current war with the Islamofacists, but even though the Japanese thought of their Emperor as a diety, there is a difference. I saw "War Stories" w/ Col. North this last Sunday... they said the average Japanese soldier didn't know the real reason for the war was to bolster Japanese industry until 1945 or '46. It seems to me the average Japanese didn't appreciate being lied to any more than we would. Something I remember hearing from a Vietnam vet on another board is that when two men who once were enemies meet and talk about their war, the conclusion they reach many times is that gov'ts start wars and the people suffer. I recall reading that a Japanese pilot present in the attack on Pearl Harbor actually apologized to American veterans because he was so put out that his gov't hadn't declared war before the attack was carried out. The difference between the Japanese and our enemies now... the Japanese realized they'd been had. The average arab terrorist... they think Allah told 'em so, so they can't see it any other way. I can probably think of a lot more on this and related subjects, but I'll stop here before I ramble too far.

 

[CrazyIrishman]

Hey Mustanger,

Ya just gave me an idea...Before I hit the rack I'd like to see MIDWAY w/ Mitchum,Fonda, and Heston!

Might be "Operation Pacific" though with the "DUKE"! Gotta go flip a coin now!

I saw an oldie a few months back about tranport and cargo ships during WWII but I don't recall the title or any of the actors. Might of been about the Merchant Marine but it was late at night.

Whenever I see a good WWII movie I sometimes think about the men that were actually there. It makes me appreciate their sacrifice and what we have today even more!

 

[ripcurlksm]

Welcome to the forums Turner!