Did you ever throw a hand grenade - 10 mm

[whm1974]

Another Mars Pistol video, but an early model in .360 Mars:

I wonder if this pistol would have done better if the designers did what both Webley and the British Army asked the desiger to do and simplified the design and used a less powerful but easier to handle cartridge?

Alas we will never know...

 

[kBob]

Thanks for the MARS videos!!!

-kBob

 

[whm1974]

Thanks for the MARS videos!!!

-kBob

You are welcome.

 

[C-grunt]

In a related but unrelated topic...

Having watched way go many 80s and 90s action movies as a child, the first time using actual hand grenades and 40mm grenades was a HUGE disappointment.

 

[PWC]

In a related but unrelated topic...

Having watched way go many 80s and 90s action movies as a child, the first time using actual hand grenades and 40mm grenades was a HUGE disappointment.

C3, C4, and 1/4 lb blocks of TNT appealed to my sense of distruction. C3 turned fingers yellow, but a marble size C4 mashed flat on a rock and lit would boil a canteen cup of water for coffee.

 

[C-grunt]

C3, C4, and 1/4 lb blocks of TNT appealed to my sense of distruction. C3 turned fingers yellow, but a marble size C4 mashed flat on a rock and lit would boil a canteen cup of water for coffee.

Making Bangalore torpedoes out of C4 and a couple L shaped fence posts was pretty badass.

The engineers made us a wall breaching charge in 2003 out of C4, some saline bags, and a piece of cardboard. That made a pretty good boom.

 

[DR505]

Making Bangalore torpedoes out of C4 and a couple L shaped fence posts was pretty badass.

The engineers made us a wall breaching charge in 2003 out of C4, some saline bags, and a piece of cardboard. That made a pretty good boom.

The biggest bang I ever got to lend a hand in was lighting off 2500 pounds of ANFO in a semi-trailer, tractor attached, with 6 witness vehicles, for a post blast investigation course.

 

[kBob]

Oh well if we are going beyond Handgrenades….platter charge with steel plate and block of C4, wine bottle field expedient shaped charge, Field expedient claymores (Mini C rat can spent 5.56 cartridge fragments & large large ammo can mainly M60 links). 25 pound shape charge and cratering charge. Cutting with old C4 strip (called it fly paper) and detcord.

...and I forgot a Grenade, Thermite. I did not throw but set it on a stack of PSP matting four thick with an inch between plates. "Remember once I let go of the grenade DO NOT LOOK AT IT until told to!" Shortly followed by cries from the audience of "MY EYES!!!!!"

Set off a WP 34 with an electric blasting cap and rubber bands. Wrap stout rubber band (there were two to three in each gas mask carrier and replacable in the supply room) around grenade and spoon and blasting cap. place grenade. Pull fuse while ready to run like hell. If rubber bands hold range walk. Stop at 100meters and pull blasting machine from pocket attach wires and give it a twist. Saw some one cut one in half with four wraps of detcord but the blast seemed less.

Cut rail line with TNT blocks and trained with 1/4 blocks (tubes actually) of TNT

-kBob

 

[HiDive]

I have never thrown a hand grenade into a room full of people, but I have thrown a hand grenade into a disco booth at a bar that I worked at while the DJ was in there. Hey he didn't listen to me when I told him what to play (no disco). Lucky for him, it was inert. But he did not know that, hee heee.
Oh, as for .40 vs. 10mm; I owned two 10mm pistols and currently have 1 pistol in 40. I like both of them.

 

[drobs]

Threw 2 live hand grenades in Army Basic Training back in 1993.
Missed out on the AT4 rocket launcher. I got stuck on KP that day.

I have 500rds of 10mm coming next week + 3 Glock 20 mags.
Already received my Lone Wolf Glock 20 - 10mm barrel.

After spending a couple hours looking for conversion barrels for the Glock 21, I learned that a factory spec Glock 20 - 10mm barrel will drop into a Glock 21 slide. That is the reason Glock 21 45 to Glock 20 10mm conversion barrels aren't sold.

 

[Tusker10mm]

One problem is a lot of the 10mm ammo on the market is not loaded to the potential of the cartridge. At one time there was one company where their 40 Short and Weak was actually faster than their 10mm load for the same bullet.

If one reloads or buys the correct ammo then the 10mm is basically a 357 in a auto pistol package.

Texas- which is why I load my own. They ARE full power, so much DUPONT so, stopped publishing the load. When I called them about it I was told just too many people couldnt handle it but the load WAS safe-- this is with 800X which I load to this day in ALL my serious ammo. Seems like there are a bunch of wimps out there- what would our D.I.'s say Before others came into being, I had several Alaskan guides tell me they wished there was a ten in a semi - auto,

 

[FFGColorado]

Ok, I'll be the new guy who doesn't know..what's a 10mm auto 'revolver'...

I own both though my only 10mm Auto is a revolver.

Shooting it DA?

 

[mcb]

Ok, I'll be the new guy who doesn't know..what's a 10mm auto 'revolver'...


Shooting it DA?

There are now a few 10mm Auto revolvers on the market. Ruger offers both the Super Redhawk and the GP100 in 10mm Auto. However the first 10mm Auto revolver was the S&W 610 first produce back 1990. It starts out as the same N-frame as the 629 (44 Mag) or 625 (45 ACP) but chambered in 10mm Auto. It is very similar in function to the 625 (chambered in 45 ACP) as both are N-frame revolvers chambered in a rimless cartridges more commonly found in semi-autos and use a moonclip for extractions and easy loading of all six chambers at once. The moonclips for rimless cartridges tend to be thicker and more robust than moonclips for more traditional rimmed cartridges. This is their biggest advantage over other revolvers, the speed with which they can be reloaded. This is not a new idea there have been 45 ACP revolvers using moonclips going back to 1908 and they saw fairly heavy use when both S&W and Colt made 45 ACP revolvers (both call 1917's) for WWI to supplement the supply of 1911's


My 610 back when I used it for USPSA competition. It has since been replaced by a 625 and now a 627.


I then used it as a hunting revolver for several seasons.

One last advantage over semi-auto 10mm Auto is that most of these 10mm Auto revolvers can be safely reamed to 10mm Magnum. This makes the revolver a three cartridge gun safely shooting 10mm Magnum, 10mm Auto, and 40S&W. I believe there has only ever been one semi-auto chambered in 10mm Magnum, AMT AutoMag IV. -rambling

 

[reddog81]

Well the 10 mm was NOT designed for .45 ACP frames but streached 1911 frames wider from front to back. A lot of people in law enforcement could not handle them worth a darn. I have fairly large hands and I could not get a decent grip on say the Grizzly LAR when it came out. I loved the idea of Springfield's Omega and got to shoot one of the units sent out to gun writers (don't hate me) but again that extra bit of front to rear thickness sort of ruined it for me. The Safety/slide stop spring tube fell off the first Delta Elite we tested with the full house Ammo of the time. Glocks for it are huge, folks.

-kBob

My Delta Elite and other 1911's are the same size frames and my Glock 20 and 21 are the same size frames. You can even use the 1911 magazines interchangeably if you tweak the feed lips. A stretched frame isn't going to make a gun any stronger. Everything else being equal stretching the frame will make it weaker.

 

[kBob]

well my mistake, although the part did fall off, I would have sworn the 10mm marked Delta Elite magazine did not fit my carry gun of the time but that was in the mid 1980's and perhaps the thickness was because of those Pachmyer grips the with the stupid Circle trigon insignia that made me think of 1960's army aggressor details of the 1960's made the grip larger.

-kBob

 

[Suedenflames68]

I have only shot 40 and 10mm in glocks. (G23, G35, G20, G29, G40) Maybe I'm weird or maybe it's the grip size or something but I dont like the recoil of the 40s. Very sharp to me especially with hotter loads. 10mm is an easier feeling recoil even with full strength handloads. Actually bought the G35 to try to like the 40cal but didnt work.

James

 

[FFGColorado]

There are now a few 10mm Auto revolvers on the market. Ruger offers both the Super Redhawk and the GP100 in 10mm Auto.

Lots snipped..ahh, you mean using 'auto' ammunition, my ? was calling a revolver 'auto'..thanks for the info.

 

[mcb]

Lots snipped..ahh, you mean using 'auto' ammunition, my ? was calling a revolver 'auto'..thanks for the info.

No problem, sorry I miss interpreted your question. There are two 'auto' revolvers I know of that might be more what you where thinking. Look up the Webley Fosbery and the Mateba Autorevolver. These two operate as a semi-auto revolver using the recoil impulse to cock the hammer and rotate the cylinder in much the same way a semi-auto cycles the slide and cocks the hammer/striker.

 

[DR505]

Here is a 10mm Auto revolver...a Ruger Vaquero that was a .40 S&W rebored to 10mm and adjustable sights added....done by Alan Harton of Houston.