Disagreeing with the experts

[olafhardtB]

I don't like checkering, it feels grusome and collects mud. Since I took basic with an M 1,I just cannot imagine telling the DI I dropped the rifle because it was not checkered. I like blind magazines on civilian rifles, they dont pop open or out. Working in a gun store every other call was about replacing a detachable clip. Do any of you guys and gals find yourselves disagreeing with some widely held opinions? I am not trying to change anybodies mind. There's no right or wrong answer, but what do you feel thats contrary to widely held opinions.

 

[Nushif]

I agree with the checkering for sure. Smooth wood for me all the way. I figure if your hands are so slick from what presumably would be mud or blood on a rifle that you gripping it with all fingers still has it drop ... you're SOL in any case. Because the thing has got to be *covered* in it in the first place.

As for disagreeing with the experts ... I don't like doing the white knuckle grip. To me bone alignment works way better without making me miss nearly as much. Especially with thin guns. The white knuckle grip, when I do it produces less accuracy ... and I do mean a lot less, for the price of very, very little payoff in firing speed, or so it seems. Bone alignment, or rather having the web of my hand in the "sweet spot" just works for me.

 

[ColtPythonElite]

I don't agree when the experts come around and tell you a Colt Python easily goes outta time.

 

[Justin]

I agree with the checkering for sure. Smooth wood for me all the way. I figure if your hands are so slick from what presumably would be mud or blood on a rifle that you gripping it with all fingers still has it drop ... you're SOL in any case.

I've got a Ruger 22/45 that I had some 1911 grip panels installed on. The gun pointed great, and felt much more comfortable than the default plastic frame.

Problem was, both the front and back of the grip on the pistol is smooth, as are the 1911 grips I had installed.

At a state-level Steel Challenge match that happened to be held on a hot summer day, I found my grip on the gun shifting during courses of fire due to my sweaty hands.

Five minutes with a wood-burning tool solved that problem.

YMMV.

 

[owlhoot]

Checkering on a military rifle, no. Checkering on a nice sporter, you bet your boots! And it is not because it is necessary but because it is beautiful if hand cut properly. Same with a nice shotgun. I've no use for pressed checkering, but I appreciate the skill and craftsmanship required for quality checkering.

On a handgun, unless it is a single action revolver, I want all the checkering I can get and I want it sharp, backstrap, forestrap, and grip panels.

 

[mnrivrat]

Sometimes it's a matter of fact ,and sometimes it's a matter of taste.

You don't want to hear my diffinition of "Expert", so I will give you one term that was used during a working carrier.

" An Expert has to live at least 105 miles away" : This refered to the fact that corporate headquarters was - yes you quessed it - 105 miles from the plant.

Nothing the matter however with listening to the wisdom of a knowledgable person, and giving it repectful consideration.

 

[ColtPythonElite]

I don't know that I want "sharp" checkering on my handguns. I have a NIB revolver that I broke out to shoot. The checkering is so sharp that it is like holding a rasp. Heavy recoil eats at your hands a bit with that sharp checkering.

 

[Heretic]

Remember,an ex is a has-been, and a spurt is a drip under pressure.

 

[jgiehl]

My disagreement is with the trend to trim the weight down. Lightweight scope mounts? Seriously is an extra 2 oz of metal really going to kill your whole hunting trip?
I like heavy rifles. My .338 weighs about 9 1/2 lbs for hunting. My .45-70 weighs almost 11.
With light rifles I usually just end up waving them around trying to hit something.

 

[Zundfolge]

I don't know about rifles but on handguns I have found that I prefer some checkering on the stocks.

I've loved smooth wood grips ... they look better as the checkering hides the grain of the wood.

BUT. On a gun that you're going to trust your life with, pretty isn't always better.


I have a beautiful set of white cherry wood grips for my Dan Wesson 14-2 ... at the range under careful, controlled conditions they're absolutely wonderful (perfect size shape and angle). But just a slight bit of moisture on the hand and the slide all over the place.

So as a consequence I carry the gun with the checkered combat grips (modified with a Tyler T).

If I could find someone to checker the smooth wood grip I'd love to put it back on.

 

[Loosedhorse]

Sure, all the time. Knowing about guns is the easy part; knowing about me, my preferences, my situation, my skills, my budget--there's only ONE expert in that: me. And in the end, I'm the only one who has to carry the consequences of my decisions.

Not some expert.

 

[jimmyraythomason]

"EXPERT" breaks down into "ex"= a has-been,"spert"=a drip under pressure.

 

[willypete]

I prefer sharp checkering and moderately sticky rubber grips. I'm fond of Hogues and Pachmayrs on my revolvers and sharp walnut or plastic on my autos. Personal preference, of course.

I agree with you on blind magazines (for bolt actions). The only thing I don't like about them is the difficulty of unloading them for fence crossings, tree climbings, etc.

I've found that the "plowshare" grip of a Colt SAA and clones does not point naturally for me, and is distinctly uncomfortable. I much prefer a Bisley grip style.

 

[EddieNFL]

Oh,‎I get it! Everything I own is a POS. Everything you own is the best! You are an expert and I know nothing. Now that I understand the ground rules maybe we can have a meaningful conversation.

You've been here before, Jimmy Ray?

 

[trex1310]

I don't agree when the experts come around and tell you a Colt Python easily goes outta time.

Usually spoken by the expert that doesn't own one.

 

[JohnBiltz]

Its important to remember experts often disagree with each other. That is true of everything not just guns. As far as guns go you take the rule and apply it to yourself and your circumstances. Sometimes it makes a lot of sense in those circumstances to break that rule. A rule for someone with large hands does not necessarily apply to someone with large hands or the other way around. Someone who has small children around is different from someone who lives alone. Circumstances and situation always dictate.

 

[Hammerogod]

Oh Heck! ... Even the Experts don't agree with the Experts.
Go to any gun show and get 2 "Experts" started and watch the dynamics.

Here...YOU can be an "Expert" too:
http://www.wikihow.com/Become-a-Gun-Expert

 

[Sav .250]

I like what "I" like. I listen, just in case. There are lots of times you dis-agree with the so called experts........what`s that tell you?
Just another ................opinion.

 

[youngda9]

I agree with you on blind magazines (for bolt actions). The only thing I don't like about them is the difficulty of unloading them for fence crossings, tree climbings, etc.

I always load the magazine and close the bolt on an empty chamber, you have to press the top round down with your finger while closing the bolt slowly. That way you are ready to load one at all times and the gun us always un-loaded for fence crossings...best of both worlds.

 

[68wj]

...Working in a gun store every other call was about replacing a detachable clip. ....

Not sure what the problem here is. It is easy to misplace a clip after you load your magazine.

 

[jimmyraythomason]

Working in a gun store every other call was about replacing a detachable clip.

This says more about the firearm user than the gun's design. As my 5 year old grand daughter tells me "Poppy,you gotta keep up with your own stuff".

 

[Onmilo]

I like smooth wood and blind magazines on hunting rifles, shotguns too for that matter.
I like semi-auto function, checkering, rubber grips, and detachable large capacity box magazines on combat weapons.
An experts opinion doesn't necessarily fit into all aspects of the shooting sports.
You gotta decide what is right for you.

 

[Overkilll0084]

Expert-Someone with a lot of opinions who seldom has a stake in the outcome. See: Current and former White House Economic Advisors

And yes, Python timing is more robust than it's typically given credit for.

 

[ms6852]

I do not agree with most that say the 22 long rifle cartridge is not accurate beyond 50 yards. I also do not agree with everyone that had tried to sell me an ankle holster made for right hand shooters that I could use it too as a lefty...just not the same.

 

[hemiram]

I don't like checkering at all, I would rather just have wide grooves that do the same thing, or the pebbly surface that a lot of the rubber grips have. I had an S&W 19 years ago that made my hands bleed from the infamous "cheese grater" grips it came with. I don't know what they were thinking about when they made those awful grips.