Do Fiocchi shells shoot extra dirty?

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While I have not fired any of thier reduced recoil loads before. I have shot hundreds upon hundreds of the Golden Pheasant loads and a couple thousand of Fiocchi handgun ammo. I have not noticed them being a particularly dirty round. I tend to think they are one of the better ammo manufactures on the market.
 
410 loads

The 410 loads are terrible. Dirtiest ammo I have ever shot. The high velocity pigeon loads are clean. Not familiar with the other varieties.
 
I tried some of their steel loads a while back and found so much unburned powder in my 12 ga i quit buying them. Besides that, Rem patterns better in my gun anyway.
 
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Over here in the UK Fiocchi were very popular some years ago. They did indeed seem to leave the barrel pretty dirty. However, I never had a missfire using them.


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I've shot boxcars of their skeet and trap loads and have found them to be amongst the cleanest out there. I haven't tried the reduced recoil loads. Tom Held is right that the 410 ammo is pretty dirty, but it works great.
 
Never had any problems with the great majority of their ammo.
However, I do recall either their .308 or their .223 having the most awful smell when fired in rapid succesion.
 
Never noticed extra grime when shooting their 00k low recoil, man they shoot soft! and they hold the tightest patterns to date for me in my 870 w/ mod choke
 
Trap loads shoot the cleanest, field loads are dirtier, heavier field loads are even dirtier, and magnums are the dirtiest in any particular gauge. I don't care who makes the rounds, that's just how it is. 410's shoot even diriter than the rest.

Trap loads use lighter charges of fast burning powder, field and heavy field use heavier charges even slower powders, and magnums use heavy charges the slowest powders*. To use one brand of powders as an example Alliant / Hercules Trap= Red or Green Dot, Field / Heavy field= Unique or Herco, Magnum=Blue Dot.

*410's use the slowest powders of all in this example 2400.

As has been hashed over numerous times on the forums, the slower powders don't "clean up" residule wise unless you are running them in their preferred pressure curve. Shotguns by their very nature are LOW pressure systems with the 410 being the high pressure king at 13K psi.

Now the question with the reduced recoil loading of the buck and slugs starts with: what powder did they use in the first place. Did they use a trap style powder? From your question it seems not. Did they reduce the charge of the powder usually used in their buck and slug loads? Possibly since standard buck loads are in the same class as Heavy Field; that would explain real bad fouling as a light charge of that powder would burn like dirt. OR they got some lousy powder in that particular batch.
 
I have found that the Fiocchi Game and Target loads have softer primers compared to Remington, Winchester and Federal Game/Field loads. I started using them after I had problems with an occasional fail to fire in my 16 ga. Springfield-stevens sxs hammer gun, especially with RGL's. They do seem to leave more residue than the others, but clean up OK.
 
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