Do you think the Garand is obsolete?

[Harley Quinn]

Brasshat I believe that JF11 is being , I don't think the 7400 is similar at all.

JF11 do you eat Armadillo.
http://www.everwonder.com/david/armadillo/

Seems they could become an endagered species

 

[jerkface11]

A 7400 would be an improvement you can top off the mag.

 

[Andras]

It's actually a simple matter to thumb rounds into the clip while it's loaded in the Garand, I've done it myself a number of times.

 

[Ian]

A 7400 would be an improvement you can top off the mag.

Someone's been playing Medal of Honor, and not taking a real Garand to a real range.

 

[jerkface11]

I'd never take a real garand anywhere. They're heavy ugly expensive and picky about ammo. Now I've got heavy guns. I've got ugly guns. I even have expensive guns. However I won't have one that's all 3 AND won't shoot the ammo I can buy at walmart. Plus end bloc clips are for carcanos.

 

[Samuraigg]

I'd never take a real garand anywhere. They're heavy ugly expensive and picky about ammo. Now I've got heavy guns. I've got ugly guns. I even have expensive guns. However I won't have one that's all 3 AND won't shoot the ammo I can buy at walmart. Plus end bloc clips are for carcanos.

Wow.. I'm not even going near this.

 

[GarandOwner]

I'd never take a real garand anywhere. They're heavy ugly expensive and picky about ammo. Now I've got heavy guns. I've got ugly guns. I even have expensive guns. However I won't have one that's all 3 AND won't shoot the ammo I can buy at walmart. Plus end bloc clips are for carcanos.

.......wow...... this doesnt even dignify a response, but I will however say that if you think the Garand is ugly, you need to have your eyes checked.

 

[chemist308]

Granted, but you also have to concede that Iraq would be a cakewalk in comparison to a full-blown land war against the PLA or the Russian army, fielding main battle tanks, artillery and air support, satellite reconnaisance, and both strategic and tactical nuclear weapons. In today's world, either force represents an example of a truly well-armed and serious adversary capable of presenting a significant threat to the continental United States.

No disrespect intented, but that was my point--basically i meant a war the US has a realistic chance of LOSING. In such a conflict I honestly don't think either the M16 or M1 Garand quite fit the bill, but the 30-06 round does better against an enemy equiped with armor similar to what ours carries. Just MHO...which in the end doesn't mean all that much...

 

[DMK]

I'd never take a real garand anywhere. They're heavy ugly expensive and picky about ammo. Now I've got heavy guns. I've got ugly guns. I even have expensive guns. However I won't have one that's all 3 AND won't shoot the ammo I can buy at walmart. Plus end bloc clips are for carcanos.

Sounds like someone who's just looking for attention.

 

[JWarren]

Dunno about your analysis, Jerkface.... of course, it is always a matter of personal tastes. So, I am not faulting you.

But as I see it, I've had a FAL, HK, Saiga 308, etc. that ended up weighing more than a stock garand by the time I got through with it. Of course, some of that weight was 20 rounds of ammunition. Garands are heavy, but not so that I'd pass on one.

As for ugly, I actually think that they are a beautiful rifle. But I have odd views of beauty. I consider an AK with nice wood to be a beautiful rifle.


No comment on being picky on ammo. I've got no experience or basis for knowing one way or the other on Garands.


-- John

 

[HorseSoldier]

No disrespect intented, but that was my point--basically i meant a war the US has a realistic chance of LOSING. In such a conflict I honestly don't think either the M16 or M1 Garand quite fit the bill, but the 30-06 round does better against an enemy equiped with armor similar to what ours carries. Just MHO...which in the end doesn't mean all that much...

Honestly in a real, stand up and knock down, drag out kind of war like some latter day WW2 (which is incredibly unlikely), the rifle we field just doesn't make a whole lot of difference at the big picture level. WW2 was decided by things like industrial production rates, access to strategic materials, and how those things put more big ticket weapons systems like aircraft, tanks, etc. into the field and allowed them to burn more fuel and deliver more ordnance.

 

[Vern Humphrey]

It's actually a simple matter to thumb rounds into the clip while it's loaded in the Garand, I've done it myself a number of times.

That's called "Building a clip of 8" and it can be done, but it takes two hands and a lot of concentration.

 

[Neo-Luddite]

And a toast! Here's to the thread that will not die and that no one has been merciful enough to kill!

 

[GarandOwner]

Its a garand thread what do you expect

 

[Neo-Luddite]

I know---it's silly and re-assuring at the same time. We can't all be crazy--right?

 

[DawgFvr]

Quite a few viewpoints herein...all very interesting...some moreso than others. I carried a M16A2 for 20 years and I will tell you this: There may be a few occassions where I'd prefer a shotgun...like in MOUT, but on most every other occasion I'd trade that M16 in for my M1 Garand in a heartbeat!

 

[offthepaper]

Do you think the Garand is obsolete?

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Oh yeah, just like the wheel.