Does anyone keep track of shootings stopped by CC carriers?

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Alas, one might need to be able to read with out closed minded self bias to have a chance at comprehending it.
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The "actual documented results" you provided said exactly what I noted based on statistics. CC citizens are less likely than off-duty LEOs to stop active shooter/mass shooting events. Which is very interesting given that CC citizens outnumber LEOs by a HUGE margin--something like 25 to 1.

Your post did mention that the non-LEO armed citizens [5 incidents (3.1%)] category were "not noted as CC citizens". I figured it was worth responding for two main reasons.

1. The thread is specifically about CC citizens stopping mass shootings, not just about armed citizens. Although your post did mention the distinction, clarification never hurts. You will note that I didn't say your post was wrong, I just said it was important "to keep in mind" the difference between an armed citizen and a CC citizen. This is an issue I ran into a number of times because most of the sources that collect this type of data seem to not be too careful about differentiating between armed citizens and CC citizens when they categorize different outcomes. We tend to be most interested in CC citizens, but, for example, the FBI, while they do sometimes keep track of that information, aren't careful to split it out into its own category.

2. Although 4 of the incidents in the [5 incidents (3.1%)] category were not CC citizens and involved security guards (church, airline counter, museum, school board meeting) the fifth incident in that category DID, in fact, involve "a citizen with a valid firearms permit" according to the source.

FBI Document Page 11 said:
In 5 incidents (3.1%), the shooting ended after armed individuals who were not law enforcement personnel exchanged gunfire with the shooters. In these incidents, 3 shooters were killed, 1 was wounded, and 1 committed suicide.
The individuals involved in these shootings included a citizen with a valid firearms permit and armed security guards at a church, an airline counter, a federally managed museum, and a school board meeting.
 
1. The thread is specifically about CC citizens stopping mass shootings, not just about armed citizens

This is really a critical point. The cited FBI report really isn't every helpful at all when it comes to looking at this information. In fact, it only mentioned a single case of a person with a "valid firearm permit." So not so much data on CC and active shooters, but a single datum.

Just for the record, that hero with the valid permit was a identified as a Marine. His status was in question, but that was how he was identified.
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