Does the Hornady Lock and Load AP and Singlestage have the same "throw"?

[bobotech]

I am thinking about getting a Hornady Lock and Load single stageto replace my old small RCBS press so that I could use the dies that I setup to use with my Lock and Load AP.

My question is this, does the L'nL single stage have the same throw so that if I set a die to crimp on my AP press, will it not need adjusting on the single stage Lock and Load?

I would be using the typical Lee shell holders.

 

[zxcvbob]

I have read that they do not. Someone else here posted that they bought both and could not switch dies without readjusting them.

BTW my old C&H press and my Lee hand press can use the same die adjustments. The LNL-AP is different, so I have to readjust if I switch presses. It's not the length of the throw, it's the distance between the stage and the dieholders when the stage is all the way up. There's no reason they couldn't have standardized that; especially between their own presses that take the same bushings.

Again, I'm passing on information that I read here, I haven't verified it. But the LNL-AP die settings are different than my Lee and C&H presses.

 

[Idano]

bobotech,

I am assuming that since you said you have the small RCBS press you mean you have the JR instead of the Rock Chucker. If you do have the Rock Chucker the you can buy the Hornady L-n-L conversion bushing that replaces the bushing in the Rock Chucker so you can use the L-n-L system. If you shim the bushing about 1/8" it you can switch the dies without any adjustment between the Hornady AP and the Rock Chucker, that is the setup I have .

 

[bobotech]

My rcbs is the little press (not sure what its called). It doesn't have the large bushing in the top of it, the press can only accept 7/8ths die sets.

 

[Roccobro]

I read one post here where a gentleman said he was going to try and make a shim to compensate between the two presses he had (single stage and the AP). I got to thinking, if you do the bushing conversion, you can adjust where the LNL bushing insert will rest by not snugging it down and using locktite at the appropriate depth.

When I'm not tired, I think of the flaw in my logic and don't try it myself. I'm tired at the moment and haven't tried it either.

Justin

BTW: Bobotech I just read some of your posts on another site about the LNL. What bullets are you going to get?

 

[Roccobro]

EDIT: Just found the thread and post.
http://thehighroad.org/showpost.php?p=3959219&postcount=8

Justin

 

[bobotech]

BTW: Bobotech I just read some of your posts on another site about the LNL. What bullets are you going to get?

I'm not sure which post you are referring to but I have been using plated bullets (rainiers and x-treme) for the most part.

 

[Roccobro]

Sorry, I was confused. You had given a recommendation to get the free .45's with a new LNL purchase to somebody else, not bought a LNL recently. So sorry.

Now back to the OP's question at hand...

Justin

 

[Joemyxplyx]

Roccobro: shimming the LnL bushing

I haven't shimmed my Lee Classic to interchange dies with my AP because I haven't set up my LnL AP yet.

I was referring to a comment by the ever informative and helpful senior member IDANO who said he shimmed his RockChucker Supreme to interchange with his LnL AP.

I took a fender washer and opened it up with a die grinder so it would fit over the treads of the L-n-L bushing on my Rock Chucker. It just happened to be the right thickness, slightly shy of 1/16" thick, to match the the stroke of Hornady press so now I don't have to adjust dies.

The thread is here: http://thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=319815

 

[Roccobro]

Man, strike two... one more and I'm out.

I better go back to setting up my LNL. Got my dies yesterday and need to make a removable mount so I can play indoors with it. Too much reading, not enough time playing!

Justin

 

[PsychoKnight]

December 7th, 2007, 01:09 AM #4
bobotech
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Join Date: 10-15-07
Posts: 16 My rcbs is the little press (not sure what its called). It doesn't have the large bushing in the top of it, the press can only accept 7/8ths die sets.

Sorry, you can't use LnL bushings in standard die holes. The conversion bushing only fits the oversized threading in full-sized presses.