Double build: .44 Remington and .22 Remmy conversion

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Howdy folks! Sorry I haven't been busy too much on the forum, lots of projects and work. But I do have a double build in mind, this time I'll be doing it so y'all can see it coming along!

On another forum there was an auction for a Pietta steel Remington frame with the internals, no barrel, grips, cylinder, base pin, or loading lever. I won the frame and bought a cylinder, some grips and a base pin from the seller. So I've basically got the materials to build a steel framed Remington in the near future, so I thought I'd post pictures as the build progresses!

My project will be to take the barrel off my Pietta brass framed 1858, put that on the steel Remmy frame and swap grips. For the brass frame and internals I have something rather unique in mind for a hunting handgun. So I'll have a steel framed Pietta Remington that will be polished and in the white and a .22 caliber percussion Remmy with target sights and a conversion cylinder.

I'll be putting a rear target sight on the brass framed pistol, then a nice round .22 caliber barrel turned on a lath and with a forcing cone cut as well as threads so it will screw onto the frame. For the front sight I'll be putting a blade sight on just like an 1873 Colt Peacemaker. After that's done I'll get another cylinder, sleeve it to .22 caliber. Then I'll take another cylinder, bore it out, make some inserts and silver solder those in place. Then of course make a breech, firing pin, and gate.

The result will be a brass framed .22 caliber percussion revolver based of the Remington NMA with a conversion cylinder. I suspect the chamber will hold at least ten grains of powder, with Triple Seven that would be pretty effective. But it will also have the conversion cylinder, so I could convert it to .22LR and have a nice little .22 LR sixgun. The beauty of this is I can take out the conversion cylinder and install the cap and ball cylinder, there we go. Non-firearm. Put it in and you've got a handy little .22 revolver.

This will be very useful for small game hunting, due to the fact it won't make too much of a mess of the game. When I shot a rabbit with my Remmy I got a head shot, and it felt like a .44 was a bit overkill. I won't get too graphic but I can say it really made a mess and didn't feel too sporting. I also couldn't see through the cloud of smoke, if I had to take a second shot it would be a stab in the dark. But with .22 that's not going to be too much of an issue, plus it will allow for indoor practice with Aguila Super Colibri's!

So I already CAREFULLY took the barrel off my 58, de-blued it, crowned the muzzle, took the "blackpowder only" and "made in Italy" off the sides as well as engraved the top of the barrel with "Don't Tread On Me"

Here's the barrel and loading lever. Note that there's no crap stamped into the side. They are looking mighty fine!
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I hope I don't get crap for this! :) Either way I've decided what I'll be doing and I'm sticking to my guns (no pun intended.)

~Levi
 
Swap away. They're your guns. I can't wait to see how it turns out.
 
Me too, I think it will turn out great. I've got a special place in my heart for three things... Southern rock, Missouri Meerschaums, and .22 caliber revolvers. A .22 wasn't the first handgun I shot but it's a favorite pistol caliber, short, Long Rifle, or magnum.

The fact I figured out how to get the barrel off the frame is delightful, from what I heard it's hard to do. I just soaked it in WD-40, popped it in my vice with some leather to pad it, used some adjustable pliers, and got it right off. It wasn't too hard actually!
 
Glad to see so much interest in this project! At first I was thinking about getting a .38 conversion cylinder and slapping a .357 barrel on there, but that wouldn't be as fun. Yeah, I'd have a good .38, but I already have a .357 so I can shoot .38's all day long. What I want is a .22 caliber sixgun based off the coolest handgun in the world.
 
That's a neat idea. Why not try to chamber for .22mag and long rifle in the same cylinder. I know the Filipinos figured out a way that worked very well. That ought to keep you busy for a while.
 
I thought about making another cylinder in .22 Magnum, but decided to just stick with LR's due to them being cheaper. That and .22 Magnum cartridges are tapered, making them not chamber in a Long Rifle chamber. But if one were to try and chamber a .22 Long Rifle in a .22 Magnum firearm the cartridge would be loose and cause misfires. Of course you could fire a .22 LR in a Magnum chamber, but you might get a split case or a ruptured case head.

I have had a .22 short casing rupture in my Remington bolt action rifle, it shot a big huge fireball into my face. All I heard was "PIIIINNNNGGGG..." and this really, really bright flash in my right eye. Thank God I was wearing safety goggles.

I'll keep you guys updated!
~Levi
 
Keep us posted on your progress. Glad to hear that you were wearing safety goggles. I've been shooting for almost 50 years and never had any problems. I bought safety glasses at the range. Cheap insurance for sure.

Good luck.
 
Will do!

Today I bored out my ol' cylinder to sleeve to .22 LR. UPS tracking says tomorrow my 6" octagon barrel will be here! :) I'm planning on either using that as my barrel or just sleeving the cylinder with it.

I think an octagon barrel would look really nice, it would give it that distinct Remington look, although it would only be 6" long. That would be nice to have a good K-frame sized .22 pistol I can just shove in my trousers when I'm going to check the trot line. That way if I could take a shot at some small game and get fish and game for the table.

~Levi
 
Damn barrel!

Well... the barrel came in the mail today. It could be used if I were to make an adapter of some sort for the threads. Although it would work, I'd rather it was thicker. Kinda bummed.

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Not sure whether it would look cool with the thinner barrel or not. It certainly would reduce weight.
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I'd give anything for an old 10/22 barrel right now. I still need to sleeve the cylinder.

~Levi
 
I agree. Good news, just got off the phone with a friend. He's got an old .22 pistol barrel that is 8" long with a front sight he said he'd give to me... Hoorah! We're in business. :) He's stopping by today to drop some car parts of for my papa, and a nice .22 barrel for me! I'll post pictures when I get it on the frame!

~Levi
 
Well I'm right! :) I love being right. I got a gun that actually fires before the day was over, it's only 6:00 here.

My buddy gave me that pistol barrel, I put it on the gun. It looks to me like a perfect match, as it only required minor fitting. All I had to do was turn it on my lath to the correct diameter, cut a forcing cone (I made a tool to do that) cut a half-circle notch close to the breech end, drill a hole in the frame, and secure it with a pin.

I had some .22LR barrel with a rusted bore that I reamed out and made into the sleeves for the cylinder. I had to turn them on a lath and it was rather time consuming given the thickness of the barrel. I got one chamber sleeved, five aren't. But I will try and get the rest sleeved soon.

Good news is it shoots! Bad news is it's only a single shot until I get the rest of the liners installed.

Barrel installed. You can't really see the pin in this one, I polished it and plated it with nickle.
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Lookin' good! Despite only one chamber being lined it's still an awesome pistol. But all of them will be lined, so it won't matter. I had some fun with those Aguila Colibris out of this pistol. I used one of my "shop pipes" to prop it up instead of a shotgun shell or a knife. A pipe gives a guy time to think, and time to figure out how he's going to do this build! :D
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I think it looks cool so far! I'm not done with the aesthetics yet.

~Levi
 
Don't you love having a lathe. I'd be lost without mine. You never realize how useful it is until you have one.
 
Nice job so far Levi and a great idea as well. I am curious to see how it does as a .22 cal percussion pistol as I really like that idea.
Keep us appraised of your progress.
Troy
 
I'll be sure to keep you guys posted! I got a second liner in the cylinder, so now it's a two shooter. It takes a while, you have to fit it and there is a lot of filing involved. But it will be worth it, yep!

Failed to mention, the sight picture is exactly like a standard Remmy, due to the thickness of the front blade sight. I like my pistol a lot! :)

I think after I finish it I'll take it frog giggin!

~Levi
 
Very cool project, thanks for posting. Any chance we could see a Youtube video of it firing at some point?
 
I'll try and get some video of me shooting it next time I'm out at the range! :)


This gun is just begging to be fed BP .22's! Today I loaded up 50 rounds, they are fun to shoot! Out of a rifle they are pretty quiet, you don't even need hearing protection. If I had to guess the velocity is somewhere around 1000 FPS.

They are extremely fun to shoot out of a high capacity double action revolver! One time I loaded my H&R with some BP rounds, squeezed off the whole cylinder real fast and it almost sounded like a string of Black Cat firecrackers! Tons of smoke too, couldn't see the log I was shooting at! :D

Today went well I feel. I got a barrel on this pistol and sleeved three chambers to .22 Long Rifle. I also test fired it, the percussion hammer will set off rimfire cartridges. I put a couple CCI Mini Mags through it too, it sure does pack a punch!

~Levi
 
Levi,

I am just curious as to what size lathe you have. I have only a Micro lathe, so I am limited as to what I can turn. :confused: BTW, nice work so far! :D
 
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