"Effective Accuracy"

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Lots of commentary on recent events, one thought that comes up is that what stops a shooter during the event is a hit. Not a Dead Right There kill. All too often nothing is done and people just hide - and if they aren't armed or are trying to shelter family while the shooter is moving away, then good.

But for those facing the muzzle, just how accurate do you need to be? Spray and pray? Nope, not even. There are likely innocent people around, even choosing to run toward the confrontation and even more so, in the actual line of fire. Can't fix that. They aren't being stupid, they are simply acting on a lack of information. When interviewed and asked "why did you run toward the conflict?" they most usually say, "I didn't even know."

Now, we can most assuredly make comments about sheep throwing their aprons over their head and wildly blundering around, but isn't neither generous, accurate, or solves the problem. If you intend to return fire - you must deal with it.

So, how accurate do you need to be? Good enough to get an odds on hit. Not a miss and a lifetime of regret. And get that hit while moving away, seeking cover, or peeking around from something to see an armed shooter at that moment being a generously placed target.

Take a ringed torso target, name the number you think is minimum. Only 9's and above? I will ask for you to substantiate that in the actual shot placements recorded in recent history. Nope, they were not even that good. In most cases, 7 ring.

Now, can they still fight back, yes. But - do they? For the ones interested in getting even with life by shooting innocents, not so much. Many quit the fight and even the field of battle they chose to dominate. Once hit - and significantly, even fired at - they immediately reconsider, move out of the zone, and retreat.

You do not need to hit a 9 zone shot or above with a heavy weapon that will knock them off their feet and kill them on the spot before their head even hits the pavement. It's a ridiculous fantasy in the light of actual events.

And the committed terrorist? I will say that if the perpetrator is not leaving the field, they remain a target to be hit again, until they stop trying to shoot other people. Now, we can cuss and discuss where to aim on endless pages of pixels, the point is that you hit them again. And, once again, you do not necessarily need to make another 9 ring or better hit. You need to make A hit, not a miss. Another hit is additive and the body will be sending signals to the brain to stop it to survive. It's extremely difficult to overcome and nobody is trained to do it - get hit again and again and keep shooting. No, there is no course coming to your range that does it, and I haven't seen anyone advertise it yet.

Now, there is a contingent of shooters who think it's absolutely necessary to train to get precision hits - and I think it's a dangerous standard as some people who could be motivated to shoot back don't. They aren't bullseye shooters and are good enough to get on paper in the black. Well, that IS good enough. Returning fire is rare enough, we shouldn't create an artificial obstacle to returning fire when it's justified.

If you are in their crosshairs, and you have the shot - don't pass on it because "it's not good enough." The preponderance of evidence shows that hits are the minimum standard and there is no higher scoring in real combat. You get hits, you can and will win the fight.

Combat/self defense is about hits. Not scores. A "poor" shot who gets hits can win the day. What evidence of that do I have? The majority of servicemen who pass weapons qualification do not fire Expert. But they qualify, and that is all that is being asked. That is the real standard - get a hit.
 
Each situation is different.

In my case, I started the gunman long enough for an unarmed security guard to grab him. Had I been armed (which I wasn't because I was on a "gun free" college campus, I would have shot to kill. But not being armed, all I could do was cover the door and grab him if he were to come in. What started him was that it was quiet and I peeped through the hole he blasted in the classroom door. He wasn't expecting it and it was enough.

The paper later reported that he didn't think he had a clean shot at me and it's why I wasn't killed. The reality is that things happen fast, we can't plan, so all we can do is our best. Those of us who train at the range, participate in competition, do martial arts, and workout stand a better chance of surviving and staying calm in a crisis. Those who don't were like my coworkers who cowered and might have died had the gunman be better skilled with the shotgun.

One other thing to consider is that he said that he knew he had less than 10 minutes to do as much damage as possible. He also said he was afraid of getting killed. So had we not been a "gun free zone" he would have either have shot up the high school which was his original plan or not gone through with his shooting spree.

I do agree that we need to be as good as we can be, and if we have a shot then take it when you get it. But you also have to be prepared to take action. As we know most will cower. I've seen it first hand.
 
I'm going to assume all other options have been exhausted and you have to engage in a shooting. If you have other, better options, exercise them. Gunfights suck. Try to avoid them. Having said that:

Perfect hits do not exist in the real world. Get the front sight center mass and squeeze. If all you have is a butt cheek exposed, front sight goes in the center of that butt cheek.

Get it in your head that you most certainly CAN shoot through concealment. Most people hesitate to shoot at what they cannot actually see. I'm not talking about shooting wildly or "in the general direction". For example, bad guy is behind a rack of coats at a store. Coats do not stop bullets, put a few through them into the bad guy. Shooting with no discipline and whacking Grandma holding a puppy is a Bad Thing. But concealment, by definition, is not cover.

Remember the Tueller drill? A firearm is just a tool. Even without an effective tool, you can still fight but you have to fight smart. I'm not a huge guy but a while back I pile drived a crackhead at work. Wandered in, was threatening a co-worker. He never saw me coming, was too focused on my co-worker. Ran right through him, stopped when I couldn't run him any farther into the wall. He left in handcuffs and pretty busted up. I heard stuff crunch when he hit the wall and it wasn't my stuff.

Practice drawstroke. Speed draw is seldom useful in the real world. You've usually got one of two things: Plenty of time to get your gun out or no time at all. But if you can't do it smoothly and somewhat quickly under no stress, you're going to blow it (and maybe a hole in your support hand or foot) when you try to figure it out under stress.

Learn to break tunnel vision. It happens to everybody. Anticipate it, deal with it. Whether it's an accomplice, other citizens responding or the police showing up, you had better be able to see and comprehend what is happening around you. Violent situations change rapidly and constantly. If your brain is stuck in one place and one moment, you're going to die.

Move. Bloody MOVE! "Get off the X" isn't just a cute catchphrase. It is life or death. Stir your stumps and make the situation as changing and threatening for the assailant as it is for you.

Shoot. If you have a potential shot with high probability of hitting the assailant ANYWHERE and little to no probability of hitting innocents, take it. Anywhere means exactly that. If it is any part of the assailants anatomy, make it bleed.

Communicate. You can tell the shooter to drop the gun if you want, but i figure he'll drop it when he is no longer physically capable or no longer willing to hold it. You need to communicate with the other people around you. Direct them to cover. command someone to call 911. Share observations. Is he or she wearing armor or just a vest? More than one firearm visible? Anybody sticking around long enough to talk to is a potential ally. BONUS: Engaging your mind in such a way helps break tunnel vision.

Muzzle awareness. Do NOT be the guy whacked by resonding officers because you're waving a gun around at everybody. Speaking of which, most of these shooting are over by the time the police are able to respond. Re-holster. People not holding guns usually don't get shot by responding officers.

Trigger discipline. An innocent's forehead is a bad place for a negligent discharge. Your gun will work as advertised. There are no "mulligans". Love it, learn it, live it. If muzzle awareness and trigger discipline are not as natural as breathing, you are lacking and need more practice and training.

That's all I got right now.
 
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....A "poor" shot who gets hits can win the day.....

Or not!

In the FBI Miami Shootout, the mortally wounded Platt was still able to fight on, surviving several more wounds, killing at least two FBI agents and disabling a few more. He was finally shut off by a wounded FBI agent, Edmundo Mireles, with a shot to Platt's chest that bruised his spinal cord.

Then there was LAPD Officer Stacy Lim. She was shot in the chest with a .357 Magnum and still ran down her attacker, returned fire, killed him, survived, and ultimately was able to return to duty. She was off duty and heading home after a softball game and a brief stop at the station to check her work assignment. According to the article I linked to:
... The bullet ravaged her upper body when it nicked the lower portion of her heart, damaged her liver, destroyed her spleen, and exited through the center of her back, still with enough energy to penetrate her vehicle door, where it was later found....

Sometimes all you need are some hits. But sometimes that won't be enough and what you'll need will be more and better hits.
 
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Sometimes all you need are some hits. But sometimes that won't be enough and what you'll need will be more and better hits.

Absolutely right. You take the hits you can get. But if you're not capable of making the shots presented to you, you're up a creek. If the best you can do is a pie plate at ten yards, life is going to be very hard and possibly very short. You may only get a portion of an assailant exposed from behind cover. If you can't place a bullet in whatever small piece of him or her that is exposed, you're behind the curve. That's a bad place to be.

I'm not Rambo. But I've been in a few scrapes while in the employ of our good Uncle Sam. Some people cave in after getting minor wounds. Some people will fight until the nervous system or vascular system shuts down. You have zero way to know before the balloon goes up. Some gun fights end with one or two shots fired. If your day has gotten so crappy that you're in a fight, do you really expect things to go according to statistics now? Personally, neither I nor any of the people i served with have ever wished for smaller guns or less ammo.

And all of that is useless if you can't put bullets in bad guys reliably, repeatedly and rapidly.
 
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