Epic fail**** don't be this guy*** graphic pics

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Disclaimer - I got these two photos and story third-hand, so I can't really verify accuracy.

The story I was told was that the gun, a 1911, was being pressed into the forearm to demonstrate how it could be taken out of battery during a contact shot and thus fail to fire. Unfortunately, this particular 1911 was loaded and did not, in fact, go out of battery. It fired just fine, destroying the arm in the process. The round continued through a second person's arm and stopped in his small intestine. I didn't get much more detail than that, but let it be yet another reminder of the 4 safety rules:

1. All guns are always loaded.
2. Never let the muzzle cover anything you are not willing to destroy.
3. Keep your finger off the trigger until your sights are on the target.
4. Be sure of your target and what is beyond it.

This incident violated all 4 of these simultaneously.

I couldn't figure out how to insert pics... see link below. Johnny

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Yikes; God bless him I hope he can recover without permanent disability. I'm curious as to what bullet (type / grain) caused the wound.
 
The lion's share of the damage would have been caused by hot gasses, though the bullet didn't help the guy's cause much.
 
at least he didn't put all his chips on the table to try and prove his point and put the 1911 to his head...
 
That is officially nasty. Remember what they say about the 4 rules. "Ignore those who decry these rules, as you will outlive them."
 
What an idiot! This is the kind of incident that makes us all look bad. Its hard to feel sorry for him.

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NOT an IDIOT,
sorry but *stuff happens*
all it takes is ONE moment of distraction, ONE failure in a long line of actions to lead to tragic consequences.

SAFETY IS PARAMOUNT
never ever compromise it, take this, why a guys arm, it could have been just as effective demonstrated with a sand bag, pointed down range.
 
the gun, a 1911, was being pressed into the forearm to demonstrate how it could be taken out of battery during a contact shot and thus fail to fire.
NOT an IDIOT,
sorry but *stuff happens*
all it takes is ONE moment of distraction, ONE failure in a long line of actions to lead to tragic consequences.
Sorry--seems like this was way more than one failure. NDs that cause injury always are.

As pointed out by the listing of the 4 Rules, this was at least 4 failures. Add to that that this guy chose---CHOSE--to use his own body to demonstrate how "safe" what he was doing was.

Idiot. But he's likely smarter now. I wish him and his other victim the best.
 
The OP said it correctly. He failed to follow all the basic safety rules. It makes an accident much more likely when you ignore them all.

I hope he recovers an retains full functionality.
 
He will be lucky if that arm even functions again with bone loss , nerve damage. Plus the hospital cost and damage to his buddy too. WOW. Life will not be the same. Too bad
 
Had A LEO instructor do the same thing in a classroom of recruits, he pressed the muzzle into his hand but not hard enough to take it out of battery.
It wasn't pretty.................
 
He will be lucky if that arm even functions again with bone loss , nerve damage. Plus the hospital cost and damage to his buddy too. WOW. Life will not be the same. Too bad

Trying to be 'High Road' here...

What is 'bad' is that if the 'story' is true, this 'instructor' put a bullet into an innocent bystander thus screwing with his/her life...

A little loss of motility on this "instructor's" part doesn't bother me in the least...

Let's just hope this person rethinks their ability to 'instruct' anyone about anything...
 
Sorry--seems like this was way more than one failure. NDs that cause injury always are.

As pointed out by the listing of the 4 Rules, this was at least 4 failures. Add to that that this guy chose---CHOSE--to use his own body to demonstrate how "safe" what he was doing was.

Idiot. But he's likely smarter now. I wish him and his other victim the best.

Agreed, this wasn't an "accident" or a "moment of distraction". The guys was mishandling a loaded weapon, aimed it at something he didn't want to shoot, and intentionally pulled the trigger while it was aimed not only at something he didn't desire to shoot but also with an unsafe backstop resulting in a second person's injuries. At least he successfully demonstrated what NOT to do. I'm sure it's a lesson he will never forget. Too bad.

Let's just hope this person rethinks their ability to 'instruct' anyone about anything...

I don't think this guy had any business instructing firearms, he may be a lot smarter and more qualified now!
 
The four rules are pretty good in general.

1. All guns are always loaded.
2. Never let the muzzle cover anything you are not willing to destroy.
3. Keep your finger off the trigger until your sights are on the target.
4. Be sure of your target and what is beyond it.

However, they have to be stacked together as one for nothing like this to ever happen. There are plenty of reports of NGs where there is nothing more than a harmless hole in the wall or floor. That is because of a failure of at least two of the above rules.

IMO, rule 2 is the most important of all. If you follow this one rule then any NGs will never have a tragic consequence. This goes to show that only following one rule of four could have just scared the crap out of a few people and not nearly ended the lives of 2.

When an NG happens, rule 4 kind of becomes N/A or it has already been broken by de facto at that point. There never was a target in the case of an NG. That is only a safety rule in place for when at the last possible moment before you fire your aimed shot at a target you are willing to destroy you think to yourself of what lies beyond and make sure anything beyond the target is also something you are willing to destroy.

The rules have to be slammed home time and time again and relentlessly followed until they become second nature to you. And then they have to be concentrated on even harder to never let NDs occur.
 
I have no idea if this story is true or not. That said, he'll be lucky (?) if he doesn't lose that arm and if he doesn't it will most likely be useless.

I don't see this as "stuff happens". What he did was exceptionally stupid.

He did it to himself but also hurt an innocent bystander which makes it even worse.
 
It was not a moment of distraction, it was a moment of STUPID. He should have been distracted from even trying this stunt.....chris3
 
You Never point a firearm at anything you don`t intend to shot, can`t say as I feel sorry for the guy............
 
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