Epic fail**** don't be this guy*** graphic pics

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It is rather amusing to see folks debating aspects of a story for which the OP notes he cannot vouch. If you can't vouch for the story, then all you have are a couple of pictures of a supposed GSW.

What is really funny is this "third hand" story is reposted by different people in numerous places. JohnnyK didn't get this story 3rd hand. He would have gotten it at least 4th hand from the person who actually did get it third hand.
 
What you say is true Double. But when I look closely at the pic of the entry wound I think I can see the imprint of a muzzle. Can anyone else see this? If it is a muzzle it might be safe to assume (still an assumption) that a weapon pressed against the arm caused the wound. Which tends to support the story.

Just an opinion.
 
NOT an IDIOT
Perhaps not, but, if the story is true, they did an extremely stupid thing. If it is not, seems like a ND at best.

Never violate the four gun rules. I do not understand how it is so complicated for some.

Let this be yet another hard lesson.
 
I got the story from the gun forum after it was mentioned on a radio gun talk show... Guns Over Texas... I'm sure it's a true story... the pics are pretty gruesome and it's a lesson to be learned to prevent others from stupid actions... like using your body parts to prove a point with a loaded gun or totally dismissing the 4 rules... either way, if reposting here helps people be more safe, its worth the post... the sport we enjoy is dangerous if safety is ignored... lessons are best learned from others' mistakes. Johnny
 
If you look closley at the entrance wound you can see that it was a 1911. You can even see the front sight.
 
Thank you Owen. 1911 is what I thought as well. You know if an instructor is determined to demonstrate this theory you would think he would be smart enough to figure out a better way.

I'm curious. If I was in that class I would have been tempted to leave when he didn't clear the weapon and began the demonstration. Would you guys stick around if an instructor did something that was clearly unsafe? I think too much trust is placed in an authority figure sometimes.
 
Obviously every single rule of safe gun handling was ignored. The word idiot does in fact come to mind. Not a mere lapse in judgment or moment's distraction, this was a calculated act of extreme foolishness.
 
I did not see anything that said it was an instructor so may a couple of low IQ guys . I shooting one standing in the wrong spot.
 
All I can say is at least he demonstrated on himself and not someone else. Too bad about the other guy being in the line of fire though. If it wasn't for that all I would say "If you're going to be stupid, you've got to be tough."
 
This was beyond stupid!
Had I been in the room, I would have tried to disarm him. And if that was not a possibility, I would've run for my life!
As has already been stated...it's real hard to feel sorry for this nim-whit!

Even if he had cleared the weapon, he still should not have pointed the muzzle at his arm.
Let's face it...there are alot of us out there that just have no business handling firearms in any way whatsoever.
 
During the runup to Desert Storm a USMC lieutenant was teaching a class on the model 1911. To demonstrate the out of battery safety he shoved a loaded gun hard against his head. Yep, he died.

That incident is in Gen'l. Schwartzkoph's book.
 
. This was beyond stupid!
Had I been in the room, I would have tried to disarm him. And if that was not a possibility, I would've run for my life!
As has already been stated...it's real hard to feel sorry for this nim-whit!

Even if he had cleared the weapon, he still should not have pointed the muzzle at his arm.
Let's face it...there are alot of us out there that just have no business handling firearms in any way whatsoever.

I think he tried to disarm himself
 
I've demonstrated this myself to several people. I ALWAYS triple-check that the pistol is clear, and I always use a suitable backstop (usually my encapsulating bullet trap), or a 6x6 wood block.

Failure to clear the gun before said demonstration is a lapse in safety. Using your OWN BODY as the backstop is just plain STUPIDITY. I'm not even sure my brain is wired to allow my finger to pull the trigger while pointing the gun at myself - and I'm not about to try to find out.
 
Ouch (to Mr. Scott's pun).

One thing wrong about the story is that I think it's a leg, not an arm....my evidence....looks like a calf muscle and knee in the first picture, not forearm muscles....but more importantly, in the 2nd picture, there's an unmistakable arm, hospital tag and all, belonging to the person in the same bed in the background and it's 4 or 5 feet away from the appendage being pictured....don't think it's possible that's an arm that got shot.
 
You are seeing his left arm up close. It is his right arm in the distance. It just looks far due to perspective. Most people are right handed, so it makes séance the she shot himself in the inside left forearm.
 
For everybody who declaims this
curses him an idiot
waves the 4 rules, saying what fools

Please, take a moment and realize, that this guy THOUGHT he was going to be OK
yes, that thought led to a VERY foolish course of action, but this guy could have been a rocket scientist, all it takes, is ONE thing in the long line to lead to tragic consequences, where were his buddies yelling 'NO don't do it', where was the confirming clear, etc.

It reminds me of an army helicopter accident some of the senior pilots in my unit got tasked to help with the investigation. Each bird in the formation has specific additional tasks that they do, like the first bird navigates, second is commo etc. Second bird developed engine trouble, and was forced to turn back, so 3rd bird moved up and assumed it's duties (commo) too. The pilots were calm and gave no sign of distress on the recorders until after the initial impact. See they both were doing the additional duties, first pilot had stopped flying the helicopter to take over the commo, second was still working heads down, nobody was flying. Until the moment of impact, they both KNEW they were doing fine, yet with two experienced pilots, neither was doing the one job they had to do to stay alive, and assumed the other was doing it, there are set procedures, almost rituals that the pilots are supposed to follow, that day neither one asked the other if they were flying the bird.

All it takes is one thing, one (rednecks last works) 'Here,hold my beer, let me show you how you do it'

for you life to be changed forever, we don't know the 'whys', we can point out the general knowledge rules that were violated for this to happen. But instead of name calling and rule thumping, take a moment and think, this CAN happen to you, if you let it.
 
I got the story from the gun forum after it was mentioned on a radio gun talk show... Guns Over Texas... I'm sure it's a true story... the pics are pretty gruesome and it's a lesson to be learned to prevent others from stupid actions... like using your body parts to prove a point with a loaded gun or totally dismissing the 4 rules... either way, if reposting here helps people be more safe, its worth the post... the sport we enjoy is dangerous if safety is ignored... lessons are best learned from others' mistakes. Johnny

Thing is, you didn't just get the story, but the first person claims of not being able to vouch for it. I am sure nothing on a gun forum or radio show has ever gone out without extensive checking. {sarcasm}

If you are so sure it is true, why didn't you post without the claims that you can't vouch for it?

Without the original source, there is no way to know if it was a gross safety violation (self inflict or on another) or a wound due to conflict. Nobody seems to know where it happened, when it happened, or who it happened to.
 
Been shooting for 42 years and have never even come close to having a ND.
Firearms safety was drilled into me at a very young age. I was blessed to have a father that taught me to be safe long before he put that first rifle into my hands.
 
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