Ever go to a gun show/gun store and encounter somebody who usually says "heck, that there gun's a real POS. Lemme tell you a story...". Not usually that annoying (and who knows, they might be correct), but a novice sometimes takes what they say for gospel and ends up with the wrong info or price on a certain gun.
Firearms "know-it-alls"
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Chipperman
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Naw, that never happens. 
"Why would you want that foreign POS Sig? Get yourself a quality American gun, like a Ruger."
"Why would you want that foreign POS Sig? Get yourself a quality American gun, like a Ruger."
PromptCritical
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Hey, I happen to like Rugers, but I have yet to try a Sig.
Funny coincidence: Up until a while ago, all my rifles were domestic and all my pistols were foreign. Then along came a Mosin-Nagant and the Kimber. Eh, what can you do.
Funny coincidence: Up until a while ago, all my rifles were domestic and all my pistols were foreign. Then along came a Mosin-Nagant and the Kimber. Eh, what can you do.
Little different, but still similar...
My friends label me as a firearms "know it all" because I can usually answer all of their very basic questions ("hey, what gun is that?"). Funny thing is, beyond being able to identify firearms and knowing things like make/model/capacity, I know little else and I always let people know straight up if I dont know something (dont want to give out wrong info).
Still, I'm the "know it all" gun-nut in my group of friends.
My friends label me as a firearms "know it all" because I can usually answer all of their very basic questions ("hey, what gun is that?"). Funny thing is, beyond being able to identify firearms and knowing things like make/model/capacity, I know little else and I always let people know straight up if I dont know something (dont want to give out wrong info).
Still, I'm the "know it all" gun-nut in my group of friends.
BigBlueEyedDevil
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I was looking for a CCW and was all ready to buy a Glock 30 which is in .45ACP. I went to the store by my house to get it and the guy told me all kinds of horror stories about Glock and i ended up getting a 4" 1911. The Glock was $350.00 cheaper. I like the 1911 but still wonder if i would have liked the Glock. Tyler
Chipperman
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Rugers are perfectly fine, but the comment ws made that they are superior to Sigs or other foreign guns b/c they are USA.
Buy what you like and what is reliable and shoots well for you.
Buy what you like and what is reliable and shoots well for you.
Tamara
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If it sucked so badly, why did he have one in his showcase?
Lord, save me from gun-counter commandos.
BigBlueEyedDevil
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I'm learning now. Do my research and don't let some guy change my mind after i'm set on what I want. I know I'm young, but it sucks these guys assume I know nothing of firearms. Tyler
armoredman
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Got called "Eurotrash for liking CZs and Witness's. Lots of idiots with opinions....
entropy
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I occasionally get called that for the same reason slh02 does, but I try to reserve my opinion of a model until I have shot two of them. One could just be bad, two lessens the odds. I shot a lot of different M16A1's and 2's in the Army, and some individual rifles were POS's some were never-jamming tackdrivers. Most were good rifles I'd be willing to take into battle. I detest gun-shop/show commandos that just repeat what they heard or read.
Brad Johnson
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Opinions are like butt cracks - everyone has one and most of them stink.
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I got a gun counter commando good. He was giving his sales pitch on a handgun that I owned one simular and was going on and and appeared know what he was talking about to a newbe. I asked to see the gun and field stripped it infront of him and he didnt know how to put it back and at that piont the other people know that he was full of it. I dont know if is in one piece yet or not.
atek3
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eurotrash thats a good one.
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atek3
thats a good one.mmmmm ueberti mmmmmmmm
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Dionysusigma
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Eurotrash. The only guns I'll profess being a know-it-all about are the ones I own, except the shotguns (which I'm still trying to figure out
)shep854
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Who you callin' a "know-it-all", boy? BigBlueEyedDevil, there's only one way to find out; go and buy that Glock. Then you can also post the results of the comparison.
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Had a boss, back when. He was a supposed gun expert. In retrospect, he knew way less than he make out like he did. Just one of his shortcomings, and I hope he's gotten some help, depression meds, etc. by now.
LeonCarr
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Usually inviting the alleged know it all to the gun range results in either the know it all refusing to go with you because his mouth overloads his butt, or he goes with you and he can't hit the broad side of a barn. Either way, the know it all will usually shut up after that. This tactic also works with the gun shop commandos.
Just my .02,
LeonCarr
Just my .02,
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threefeathers
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I confess, I'm sometimes a know it all especially when I hear a draft dodger talk about military stuff.
It is amazing what some people "know," but they can neither cite a reliable source or support their own premise. It is also amazing how well some people can shoot, but just not right now, cause they have a cramp in their toe or they dont want to show off or their sights must have gotten whacked while they were training the "Seals"(sic) how to "Mozambike"(sic) the "tangos".
Whats the saying, "People who think they know it all irritate those of us who do."
Whats the saying, "People who think they know it all irritate those of us who do."
Samurai Penguin
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I don't know a hell of a lot...
But I've seen a lot of people ripping on Sigmas. My .40's got 2000+ rounds through it and hasn't hiccupped so far. I've seen people sing the praises of Rugers and my friend's had nothing but problems with them.
"Don't believe everything you hear," is the first step towards wisdom, IMHO.
But I've seen a lot of people ripping on Sigmas. My .40's got 2000+ rounds through it and hasn't hiccupped so far. I've seen people sing the praises of Rugers and my friend's had nothing but problems with them.
"Don't believe everything you hear," is the first step towards wisdom, IMHO.
Those guys will always be around no matter where you go. We had this one guy in class who was talking more than the instructor about guns. We finally get out to the range and this guy had 12" "groups" with a .38 special from 10 yards out in single action.
Our local know it all was being quite dismissive of the .32ACP (I have some .32 mouse guns) , when I reminded him the .32ACP was powerful enough to start WWI.
He looked impressed, said "You really know your calibers" and then went on about another subject.
I practice lots and lots with my 'inferior' calibers, but he won't show me how well he can shoot with his 1911. I've been inviting him to the range for years.
He looked impressed, said "You really know your calibers" and then went on about another subject.
I practice lots and lots with my 'inferior' calibers, but he won't show me how well he can shoot with his 1911.
I've been inviting him to the range for years.kentucky bucky
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I hate the guys behind the tables that look as though they are smelling something bad when someone wants to look at a gun on their table. They act as though they assume that everyone at the show is a "tirekicker" or an idiot, before they even talk to them. I thought dealers or people that rent tables at shows were their to sell, not to look down on their potential customers. Several times I've walked away from a purchase with the money still in my pocket, because the seller had a condesending attitude. If they hate the business so bad, sell something else, like in the appliance dept. at Sears. Go sell shoes or something.
Sunray
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Especially when you point out to the bozo that a 'tango' is a tank.
BigBlueEyedDevil, "...The Glock was $350.00 cheaper..." That says it all. Salesmen will tell you anything to get you to spend more money. New guy that's hot to trot and, normally, will believe whatever a sales guy says. The answer is, "Can I try it?" Assuming there's a range in the store.
You ever get to try a Glock? Even to see if it fits your hand? You should. There's nothing that says you can't have a 4" 1911 and a Glock. You won't feel right until you at least try one. You may find the stock grip is a bit slippery. No big deal. Pachmayr makes a slip-on grip that makes it go away.
BigBlueEyedDevil, "...The Glock was $350.00 cheaper..." That says it all. Salesmen will tell you anything to get you to spend more money. New guy that's hot to trot and, normally, will believe whatever a sales guy says. The answer is, "Can I try it?" Assuming there's a range in the store.
You ever get to try a Glock? Even to see if it fits your hand? You should. There's nothing that says you can't have a 4" 1911 and a Glock. You won't feel right until you at least try one. You may find the stock grip is a bit slippery. No big deal. Pachmayr makes a slip-on grip that makes it go away.
Destructo6
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I've probably been labeled a "know it all" a few times at gunshows. But that's only because I couldn't stand the stream of nonsense being passed as the gospel by some dealers/dealer helpers. One specific example being that Black Talon bullets expand into flying claw buzzsaws the instant they left the muzzle.
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