Fitz Special project

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sorry for the confusion

thought I was missing something

Fitz chopped the barrel, trigger guard and hammer.

Was wondering if we were looking a a Jordan "thinning" or something.
 
yes

this is why I was confused when a chopped barrel, pretty though she may be, on a Fitz thread.

Sorry to confuse you. I posted pictures of my non-Fitz'd Colt not to confuse anyone but simply because a picture of my gun was posted by oldbear in post #69. He described it (and another) as "...not a Fitz but a great cutdown."

Besides, I look for any excust post a pic...on topic or not. :scrutiny:
 
Cocked & Locked, as I'm in the RTP area and not that far from you; may I suggest that you keep that guy under lock and key:D It's way cool. Is there back story you would like to share with us?
 
I also respect Saxon Pig on many issues however this thread is not one of them for 2 positions he has esposed.
(1) The Fitz Special and it's associated modifications while horrible to a purist collector of original firearms were and remain an answer to a tactical firearm issue whether real or percieved. I find them a charming bit of history based on the time of conception and general use. Based on that same time period to leap forwrd in time and apply the current paradigm of a litigous society over staffed with hungery and under utilized lawyers is silly.
(2) "Fired a Warning Shot to drive off theives!" I was taught in the military, LEO training and finally CHL class the drawing a fire arm is a last resort act leading to deployment of a deadly weapon of which all shots should be aimed. Indiscriminate firing without a specific target can and will lead to unintended consequences.
That said I still respect his right to his opinion, he could go lighter on the term "Butchering". Meat cutters deserve more respect than that.
By the way here are my 2 Fitz's a 1917 S&W and a 1937 vintage Colt Governement, both modified for and carried by a Florida Senior District jJudge on the bench,
 

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Mike,

Until a few years ago I really didn't think much about Fitz conversions.

Certainly there is a part of me that totally agrees with SaxonPig. Besides, he is very smart, very logical and worthy of respect.

But Old Fuff, who is also a one for whom I have a great deal of respect, makes some great points.

For me, it comes down to classic restoration vs hot rod.

I would hate to see an original 34 Ford Vic cut up to make a hot rod.
But I LOVE hot rods and the Vicky makes a great one.

If you don't start with a pristine example I am becoming more and more "okay" with it.
 
I guess we all have to decide for ourselves what is sacred and what isn't. Some folks believe no factory gun should ever be modified, some are a little more forgiving, some believe nothing is sacred. That said, you can't really blame folks for modifying what were common, current production guns at the time. No more than you can blame one for modifying a brand new Ruger. We must also realize that we don't all have the same opinion, appreciation or uses for firearms. We must also understand that the men in question were not boutique firearms fanciers, they were the real deal. So in my opinion, anyone who arbitrarily dismisses their views or opinions because 80yrs ago they chopped the triggerguard off something they consider sacred has some seriously flawed logic.

That said, I don't see anyone cutting up a minty collector's piece. I see folks modifying a well-used and/or abused and usually refinished specimen. Besides all that, NO ONE has the right to tell another what to do with their own property. Even if I DO want to modify a minty collectible. It's my business and no one else's.
 
I think you did a great job of recreating a historical tribute using one of yours as a project gun.
For my part on the Fitz thing... I'm not buyin' the selling points of lopping off the trigger guard front as any perceived benefits would be wiped out completely by the snagability of the remaining guard.

I like more practical methods of addressing it like my Smith...
 

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i would think the guard might snag being put in a pocket...but not much chance coming out.

it's a fantastic looking custom.

i never thought much of the idea, but i'll admit, it's growing on me:)


mike, i have to say...that 1911 without the trigger guard, makes me a touch nervous just looking at it. conversely, the 1911 trigger guard and gloves never worked that well together for me.
 
ApacheCoTodd,

Wearing heavy leather fur lined gloves, drop yours in a heavy wool Chesterfield pocket and try it then. I see you live in the southwest and I assume I am speaking Greek to you.
 
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