Well I carried and had forgotten my permit twice. Both being heading out the door and late for work and forgot my wallet which has my ccw permit in it. This doesnt happen to much and I cant really explain it human error I guess. It is like locking your keys in the car didnt want it to happen but there you are kind of thing. In this post illegal yes I know.
The first time I had to go to the police station to take care of something before I went to work. Yes I crapped my pants when I got there I mean how stupid is this playing out right. The police station is about a half mile from my house. So I left the gun in the car of course and took care of business since I was there and then went straight home to get my wallet (didnt want to mess with the gun in the parking lot of a police station so didnt put it in the back of the truck or anything else just went home to get my permit). This was my first ccw mistake when I first got it and here I am in this situation what do I do now freaking out what do I do what do I do. Well I need my permit so I went home and got it. Back to legal.
Second time earlier this week made it the twenty miles to work before I realized I didn't have my wallet with me. Again oh crap I did it again. So before going home I wrapped the gun in plastic bags snowing here in Michigan and put the gun in the back of the truck bed and ammo in the cab.
In Michigan it is legal to carry a firearm if it is in a locked container if you drive a vehicle that doesn't have a trunk and separated from the ammo. My glove box I found out doesn't lock and I didn't have a lockable container so that is why I put it in the bags and then put the gun in the bed separated from the ammo in the cab.
Ok I realize my screw up and I don't plan on making this a daily thing. I do have a few questions though.
1. Would a cable lock be considered a lockable container in a situation like this? I think it would be ok but don't know if it is actually legal in MI. to do this. It would be easier to keep in the truck, cheaper etc.
2. On the way home that night if I would have gotten pulled over by the police the best I could have done was explain that I didn't have my license with me but would have told him my drivers license number as I know that. The leo would know that I have a ccw permit as soon as he ran my plate. In MI. we have to give our ID and ccw permit and immediately tell the officer we are carrying if we are actually carrying. Was I carry at that moment and say that I have a gun in the bed of the truck or do I say that I am not carrying as the gun was in the bed of the truck and not in my possession or immediate reach?
3. Lets say that the cable lock is legal or I have it in a locked container and I have it in the cab of the truck am I carrying. I dont want to think that I am not carrying and not produce my permit and say so in this situation (if I get pulled over). I guess I dont know the legal definition of carry in relation to my ccw. I mean I know when I am, loaded gun on my side and all, at what point am I not. Just want to stay out of trouble not looking for it.
Sorry for the long post TIA.
The first time I had to go to the police station to take care of something before I went to work. Yes I crapped my pants when I got there I mean how stupid is this playing out right. The police station is about a half mile from my house. So I left the gun in the car of course and took care of business since I was there and then went straight home to get my wallet (didnt want to mess with the gun in the parking lot of a police station so didnt put it in the back of the truck or anything else just went home to get my permit). This was my first ccw mistake when I first got it and here I am in this situation what do I do now freaking out what do I do what do I do. Well I need my permit so I went home and got it. Back to legal.
Second time earlier this week made it the twenty miles to work before I realized I didn't have my wallet with me. Again oh crap I did it again. So before going home I wrapped the gun in plastic bags snowing here in Michigan and put the gun in the back of the truck bed and ammo in the cab.
In Michigan it is legal to carry a firearm if it is in a locked container if you drive a vehicle that doesn't have a trunk and separated from the ammo. My glove box I found out doesn't lock and I didn't have a lockable container so that is why I put it in the bags and then put the gun in the bed separated from the ammo in the cab.
Ok I realize my screw up and I don't plan on making this a daily thing. I do have a few questions though.
1. Would a cable lock be considered a lockable container in a situation like this? I think it would be ok but don't know if it is actually legal in MI. to do this. It would be easier to keep in the truck, cheaper etc.
2. On the way home that night if I would have gotten pulled over by the police the best I could have done was explain that I didn't have my license with me but would have told him my drivers license number as I know that. The leo would know that I have a ccw permit as soon as he ran my plate. In MI. we have to give our ID and ccw permit and immediately tell the officer we are carrying if we are actually carrying. Was I carry at that moment and say that I have a gun in the bed of the truck or do I say that I am not carrying as the gun was in the bed of the truck and not in my possession or immediate reach?
3. Lets say that the cable lock is legal or I have it in a locked container and I have it in the cab of the truck am I carrying. I dont want to think that I am not carrying and not produce my permit and say so in this situation (if I get pulled over). I guess I dont know the legal definition of carry in relation to my ccw. I mean I know when I am, loaded gun on my side and all, at what point am I not. Just want to stay out of trouble not looking for it.
Sorry for the long post TIA.