Hey fellow gun owners. I participated in a thread about travelling through Mass under the general discussions section of this forum. You can find my post on it by searching on my name, Quentin Mise .
Ok, this thread here is to ask the question, now that I am not convicted of any crimes while lawfully transporting my handgun through Massachusetts, what are the appropriate steps to getting my gun back?
During pre-trial my counsel asked the judge point blank about my getting my gun back. He answered, "I'm not getting in the middle of that. That issue is between you and the state police."
I couldn't understand that answer, for the life of me, I thought the judges ruled on these matters, and my gun belonged to me, and the police are holding it, and I was NOT found guilty, so what was the holdup with getting the gun back?
Ok, MAss is famous for never returning the guns back to the citizens after the trials are over. I have been laughed at by three people so far for even asking if I can have my gun back. Well now my tone has changed to, "I expect an answer and clear instruction on how I go about getting my gun back, since I am not Guilty of a crime, and since it's my property." Funny how that changes the tone of the conversation. Anyway, I have been told twice now to contact Sturbridge state police evidence officer Mogan on Monday morning about the issue, and to follow her instruction.
My concerns are based on three issues:
First, only seven miles away in a town called Holland, police chief Gleason was in big trouble for selling guns that allegedly did not belong to him. The link to that article is here:
http://www.01521.com/
Secondly, I have been told that the police will give the gun back when they want to, that they will return it after my CWOF charge drops, (two charges were flat out dropped to do eroneous charging, but one is pending six months of good behavior) and I have also been told that since I am not guilty now I am entitle to the return of my property, NOW. The police and court employees OBVIOUSLY don't have a plan in place to return a lawful gun back to its lawful owner after a trial or arraignment is decided. This is UNACCEPTABLE TO ME as a citizen.
Thirdly, the arresting officer, officer Simpkins of the State Police barracks in Sturbridge, was overheard, BY ME, in the other room of the barracks discussing the high desireability of the firearm as a "backup or off duty weapon" because it was a subcompact Glock 27 model. He further stated that he could get that weapon wholesale and for less than I paid for it, (he asked me what it cost me, and I disclosed the price I paid during the wrongful arrest that took place,) and it became clear to me that he would like to either "obtain" the firearm, or purchase it through the police system, from someone who is like Mr. Gleason, who is selling guns that don't belong to him.
If I have to drive back to Mass to get it back and they won't ship it, then fine, I"ll drive up again, but then how do I keep them from arresting me again for not having their concealed carry card. I was protected last time because I was on interstate travel, (see my other thread) but in this case of going to Mass to re-acquire my gun, my business is in MAss, not NH, therefore no federal protection exists and they can hand me my gun back, watch me drive out of the parking lot, and pop me again, and based on their behavior so far, I don't put it past them to do that very same thing again. Remember from my other post, I asked for a receipt when they confiscated my LAWFULLY OWNDED HANDGUN, and they refused to write me one and threatened me to leave the station when I aksed a second time.
If I don't have my gun back in very short order, and/or if they sell it to someone else, what type of suit am I eligible to file against them?
Sincerely,
-Quentin Mise
Romans 10:13
For Whosoever calls upon the name of the Lord, shall be saved.
Ok, this thread here is to ask the question, now that I am not convicted of any crimes while lawfully transporting my handgun through Massachusetts, what are the appropriate steps to getting my gun back?
During pre-trial my counsel asked the judge point blank about my getting my gun back. He answered, "I'm not getting in the middle of that. That issue is between you and the state police."
I couldn't understand that answer, for the life of me, I thought the judges ruled on these matters, and my gun belonged to me, and the police are holding it, and I was NOT found guilty, so what was the holdup with getting the gun back?
Ok, MAss is famous for never returning the guns back to the citizens after the trials are over. I have been laughed at by three people so far for even asking if I can have my gun back. Well now my tone has changed to, "I expect an answer and clear instruction on how I go about getting my gun back, since I am not Guilty of a crime, and since it's my property." Funny how that changes the tone of the conversation. Anyway, I have been told twice now to contact Sturbridge state police evidence officer Mogan on Monday morning about the issue, and to follow her instruction.
My concerns are based on three issues:
First, only seven miles away in a town called Holland, police chief Gleason was in big trouble for selling guns that allegedly did not belong to him. The link to that article is here:
http://www.01521.com/
Secondly, I have been told that the police will give the gun back when they want to, that they will return it after my CWOF charge drops, (two charges were flat out dropped to do eroneous charging, but one is pending six months of good behavior) and I have also been told that since I am not guilty now I am entitle to the return of my property, NOW. The police and court employees OBVIOUSLY don't have a plan in place to return a lawful gun back to its lawful owner after a trial or arraignment is decided. This is UNACCEPTABLE TO ME as a citizen.
Thirdly, the arresting officer, officer Simpkins of the State Police barracks in Sturbridge, was overheard, BY ME, in the other room of the barracks discussing the high desireability of the firearm as a "backup or off duty weapon" because it was a subcompact Glock 27 model. He further stated that he could get that weapon wholesale and for less than I paid for it, (he asked me what it cost me, and I disclosed the price I paid during the wrongful arrest that took place,) and it became clear to me that he would like to either "obtain" the firearm, or purchase it through the police system, from someone who is like Mr. Gleason, who is selling guns that don't belong to him.
If I have to drive back to Mass to get it back and they won't ship it, then fine, I"ll drive up again, but then how do I keep them from arresting me again for not having their concealed carry card. I was protected last time because I was on interstate travel, (see my other thread) but in this case of going to Mass to re-acquire my gun, my business is in MAss, not NH, therefore no federal protection exists and they can hand me my gun back, watch me drive out of the parking lot, and pop me again, and based on their behavior so far, I don't put it past them to do that very same thing again. Remember from my other post, I asked for a receipt when they confiscated my LAWFULLY OWNDED HANDGUN, and they refused to write me one and threatened me to leave the station when I aksed a second time.
If I don't have my gun back in very short order, and/or if they sell it to someone else, what type of suit am I eligible to file against them?
Sincerely,
-Quentin Mise
Romans 10:13
For Whosoever calls upon the name of the Lord, shall be saved.