Glock CCW owners...

[dscottw88]

I will be 21 soon and will be obtaining a CCW and will be qualifying with a soon to be bought Glock 26. Were any of you CCW glockers worried about a negligent discharge when you first carried or do you keep it loaded w/o a round needing to be chambered? I'm no expert on pistols yet but would like to hear thought/comments on the issue.

Note that although Iv'e heard about aftermarket safeties that you can install in many glocks, I am not interested in this feature and would like to leave the gun alone without making any modifications.

Thank You!

 

[CTPistol]

If the trigger is in a holster it cant fire, right?

thats about all you need to know.

 

[Glockman30]

When I first started carrying I was worried about keeping one in the chamber. After going to the range and getting comfortable with my Glock 23,27 and 30 I began to carry one chambered. I still am fairly new to the CCW and have only recently began enjoying shooting on a regular basis, so I am sure there are a lot of opinions on this.

 

[RTFM]

Caution is god.
Build confidence in you and you weapon.
Running live with a GLOCK is second nature now.

I will caution you to seriously thin about a holster that captures the GLOCK from below as opposed to a slide retaining strap over the top. When re-holstering the lose strap COULD get between the trigger and a solid object. You push harder to re-holster and a ND cold occur. Thats why I run a 17 in a Bianchi carry lock, secure and not top strap.

Just a thought.

 

[dscottw88]

Thats interesting. I'd like to find out how many of the CCW permit holders out there carry an extra magazine. I also need to start looking around for a holster.

 

[jmancini]

So long as you keep your fingers and foreign objects off the trigger, Glocks are very very good at not going off.

However, you *do* have to pay attention and use a holster - there are more NDs with Glocks on the books than with any other firearm issued to LE by a large margin. Why? Carelessness.

CCW in condition 3 (no round in chamber) is worthless, IMHO. The bad guy is not going to wait for you to rack a round. Also, if you're in close quarters and fighting off the bad guy with one hand, you're pretty much screwed, aren't ya?

If you're not comfortable with the Glock safety, consider something DA/SA with a secondary safety (like an HK USP) and practice with it until you can take the safety off while you draw without even thinking about it (like the 1911 guys do).

But if you're going to carry it, for god's sake carry it loaded. Otherwise it's a paperweight.

 

[JDGray]

I'm comfortable with a loaded Glock in my holster, range time will ease your mind. I dont like safeties on a carry gun, just one more thing to try to remember in a panic. If your not comfortable with the thought of no satety, don't buy a Glock

 

[copaup]

Keep finger off trigger and carry in a holster that covers the trigger guard. Make sure that there is no foreign material caught between the holster and the trigger while holstering (you should do that automatically with any gun). You'll be fine. A gun with an empty chamber is a very expensive crappy club.

 

[SWATcashJeremy]

I have a CPL (Washington's version of a CCW) and I have a glock 19 I carry occasionally with a round always chambered. I use the SAF-T-Blok to prevent accidental discharge. It goes right behind the triggerand prevents firing, but can be ejected in a hurry by just pushing it with your trigger while drawing. Sure it'll go far away and you'll probably never see it again. But do you really care about a 15 dollar piece of plastic in a Life or Death situation? probably not

 

[crebralfix]

New CCW Discharge Anxiety!

I just created a new syndrome!

Seriously, you are not alone in thinking your gun will shoot by itself. I thought it (of a SIG of all guns). After awhile, you get used to the gun and the anxiety goes away. Just remember: the gun has internal safeties and it's up to you to handle the gun properly. If your holster covers the trigger and allows any external safeties to *stay* engaged, you'll be fine.

Of course, there's the "everyone's looking at me because I'm packing." This goes away with experience. Try not to fiddle around with your gear or shirt; these are "tells" that give you away. Act normal and everything will be fine; nobody will notice anything.

FYI, one major "tell" is a change in attitude or demeanor.

 

[atomd]

Unload your pistol and holster it. Dress in what you would normally wear outside and then draw and re-holster it a bunch, also bend, squat, and do everything else you would need to out in public. When you're done, see that your trigger hasn't been pulled and it might make you feel better about it. If that still doesn't make you feel better, get a NY trigger kit for it or one of those safe-t-block thingies. Glocks are safe to carry out of the box but hey...whatever helps you feel safer and carry it more often is a good thing.

 

[REPOMAN]

Glock Ccw

Keep one out of the pipe until you get real comfortable ccw'ing........Then carry it ready to rock.....

 

[dscottw88]

Ok Cool, thanks for all the input folks. I can't wait!

 

[GRIZ22]

However, you *do* have to pay attention and use a holster - there are more NDs with Glocks on the books than with any other firearm issued to LE by a large margin. Why? Carelessness.


I agree with you but there is another factor why there are more NDs with Glocks issued to LE. They use more Glocks than any other type of pistol. Last figure I saw was Glocks are used by 60% of the LE agencies in the country. Why? They're reliable, easy to operate, and for the beabcounters cheap.

The agency I retired from went to Glocks in 1998. They required the 8 pound trigger. I was a firearms instructor and feel that if you couldn't shoot with the 8 pound trigger the 5 wasn't going to help you. There were over 1000 officers carrying Glocks in my region and by the time I retired (2005) there was exactly one ND with a Glock. The guy had his finger on the trigger when loading so it would have happened if it was a SIG, Ruger, 1911, S&W or anything else.

Use a holster and pay attention to what you're doing.

 

[strat81]

I had the same question about more ammo. Here's an answer to carrying an extra mag:
http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=253771

I too was paranoid when I first started carrying a Glock 26. So, I carried without a round chambered for over a week. Every night, the trigger was fine.

I now carry with one in the pipe and have a NY1 trigger installed. Use a quality holster and you'll be fine.

 

[Airman193SOS]

I carry my Glock 27 (and my Sig P239) in a Bianchi 100 IWB holster with one in the pipe. I have never worried about a negligent discharge and I have carried it that way from Day One.

 

[ZombiesAhead]

I've had my CHL for several months now and carry a G19 occasionally - I know it's good to be prepared but I don't even like loading my pockets up with cellphone, wallet, and knife so a pistol hanging off my waist is sometimes just more crap and weight than I feel I need to be walking around with. I definitely don't ever carry spare mags. Good on you if you choose to but if I need more than 15 rounds I'm in big trouble.

Sometimes I carry with one chambered and feel pretty comfortable, but more often I don't. I live in a safe, suburban area - I like having a pistol on me just in case but I'm not anticipating anyone sneaking up on me before I have time to chamber a round. If I felt like I was in a dangerous neighborhood, I would have no reservations about keeping one in the pipe.

I also keep this same pistol by my bed at night next to my cellphone, etc and I worry about grabbing it the wrong way - thus I keep the chamber empty at night and I don't like having to un-chamber every day when I get home and re-insert the round into the mag - it seems like undue wear and tear on the casing.

Enjoy.

By the way: I started with a Fobus OWB holster ($20) which I found impossible to conceal; then switched to a nylon Uncle Mike's IWB ($18) which did not retain the pistol at all when sitting in the car or using the restroom. Now I'm using a CTAC Minotaur ($80) with no regrets.

 

[chipperi]

I usually carry my S&W 4516 but I do take my G17 out of the safe every so often. I have to echo what has already been said

1: KEEP YOUR DAMN FINGER OUT OF THE TRIGGER GUARD!

ok I couldn't stress that enough.

seriously there fine carry guns keep your finger along side the trigger guard not the frame while re holstering to keep thumb breaks etc from entering the trigger area.

 

[Ragnar Danneskjold]

Might I ask why you have decided you want a Glock?

A CCW weapon should be something one is very confidant in and entirely familiar with. I would suggest trying a number of weapons if you can. Find a range that rents weapons and try some out, including a Glock. Many people, myself including, find the grip angle and trigger disconcerting. You however, may find that Glocks are the best for you. I have no idea how much you have shot from you post, so you may very well have put hundreds of rounds through a Glock and are already well aware of how they shoot. I am only saying that since you seem uncertain, perhaps you may want to widen your search for a CCW weapon before choosing.

If in fact you find(or already have) the Glock is the best choice for you, get a really nice holster for it, not a cheap uncle mikes or Fobus. One that is made of high grade materials and is specifically made for your particular model. I use a Galco for CCW and a Comp-Tac for open carry. Both are specifically for the P99, and entirely cover the trigger area.

I felt exactly the same way as you before I started carrying my P99. It, like the Glock, doesn't have a safety. Though I have the DA/SA trigger instead of the Glock-esque Quick Action trigger. Before I got the P99, I would not carry a weapon that did not have a safety. But I finally just decided to get over it. It's been a few months now, and I am completely comfortable with it. I think after a while you can get used to the Glock. Just be safe and follow the 4 Rules.

 

[Kevin108]

My first gun was a Glock 17 and even though my collection has grown considerably it's still my favorite and most reliable. I usually carry a 26 now but if I knew it'd have to have a gun, my 17 is what I would have on me.

Get the holster now. Wear it around the house. Get comfortable with the placement. If you choose a CompTAC CTAC, the leather struts will break in over time. I did all of these things while I was waiting on my CHP to come in. I even wore the holster out and carried my cell phone in it a few times.

When you get the gun, don't load it. If you buy a box of ammo, keep it in another room. Keep the magazines out of the gun. Rack the slide so the trigger is set and literally fool around with the gun and see how you might accidentally pull the trigger. If you know what's possible, you'll know what to avoid and how to be as safe as possible. Put it in your holster, take it out, do anything that you can imagine doing to see where a problem might arise.

A book a highly recommend as a companion purchase to your Glock is the Complete Glock Reference Guide. I got mine from Lone Wolf. Check it out at http://www.lonewolfdist.com/Detail.aspx?PROD=3709 It covers Glock history, maintenance, full disassembly and reassembly, info on the different models, etc. It's written in a fun-to-read and easy-to-follow format with detailed info and lots of pictures.

 

[NCHornet]

I have been CCing for 11 years, you need to learn the basics first and one of those is don't have your finger near the trigger until you are ready to destroy something. I watch many folks and it seems almost natural to grab a gun and the index finger goes to the trigger, I know then to get away from this person. You must train your muscle memory that the fingers stays outside the trigger area until you are ready to fire.
As for a holster, the best I have used is a Bianchi Carry Loc. I don't believe there is a better holster for CC.

 

[SWATcashJeremy]

NCHornet..thats the ONE thing on this planet that scares me...people who put their fingers in the trigger the second they pick up a gun before they even CHECK it at all. Even my mother in law who knows next to NOTHING about guns doesn't do that. She picked up my M&P 45 and she grabbed it properly with index finger along the slide...kinda shocked me...but I was in the gun store the other day and someone was looking at buying a gun and the first thing they did when they picked it up was put their finger inside the trigger guard. I understand the desire to feel how the trigger pull is when you are considering buying a gun. But for God's sake A) Check the chamber yourself..no one is perfect...not even gun store employees and B)POINT IT AT THE WALL NOT ANY RANDOM DIRECTION. Yeah.

Sorry for the rant but there's a reason why politicians like to claim guns are dangerous...because of dumb that don't know what they're doing and pretend they do.


On an entirerly seperate note: thats the one thing I hate about Washington state...Getting a CPL requires no class or training or brain even of any sort. You go in...fill out the paperwork..wait 11-30 days ...get a permit in the mail..it's like....I appreciate that you are one of the few states that RESPECTS my gun rights...but at least make sure I know what I'm doing before you license me to carry. (maybe its just me on that one but I've seen too many dumb@$$es who's idea of concealed carry is their skin tight shirt over their holster with half the barrel out the bottom...scary)

 

[Navy joe]

Don't be the typical newb. That would be the guy with the dress belt and the cheap holster that doesn't stay open by itself. Then they either wiggle the gun all over while pointing it at various lower parts of themselves whilst opening the holster with the muzzle or they point it at their off hand while opening the holster that way. Get a good holster, kydex or a reinforced top leather. Blade-tech, Comp-tac, G-code, some good kydex ideas to start with. I often carry condition 3 just because of the way I dress not concealing the gun I want to, a Glock 17. I stick it in my waistband and let the t-shirt cover it. I try to have a 642 in the pocket when I am doing that though. Condition 1 is no worries with a good holster and sound mind.

 

[dscottw88]

The reason i'm considering a Glock 26 is because I'm use to them. Having been brought up in a family that uses glocks iv'e had a lot of range time with them. Iv'e tried a few others including the Khar PM9, new and old walther models, a couple sigs and some others but glock just feels incredibly natural to me. I feel comfortable carrying a firearm w/o a safety.. just wanted to know if i was the only one the had a butterfly or two their first week.

As for a holster...I hope you pay for what you get... because iv'e been leaning towards the desantis mini slide holster thats made specifically for glock models 26 and 27 (40 S&W Model). cheapest i can find is $55.

 

[DougW]

I normally carry a G19 in a Houston Holster paddle strong side, under an untucked shirt. When in the holster, 15+1. If I carry it in a belly band (IWB) then it has 15+0, mainly because there is only elastic and leather protecting the trigger. If I carry all day long with the belly band (last weekend in San Antonio), I will carry my Bersa Thunder .380. I also use a Kangaroo under arm deep concealment holster with the new to me G26. I carry it 10+0 under my arm, again because it is deep concealment and a bit tricky to reholster (I don't like flashing the muzzle accross my body). The Bersa Thunder works well under the arm too. I have a belt slide leather thumb break holster for the G26, which will then have 10+1, under the untucked shirt.

I always carry a spare mag and tac light for what ever weapon I have. Even in the day light (ever been in a grocery store when the lights go out?). But, my wife has always calld me the "origional boy scout"!