GLOCK G36 - Or, When Did a .45 ACP 1911-A1 Stop Being Good Enough For SD?

[AK103K]

Shot a snub .357 mag., out in the open, three rounds, lost ~ 10% of my hearing.

GR

Hmmm, if you say so.

According to your math, I should be so deaf, I should be coming back around to hearing again!

I just recently got hearing aides, after close to 60 years of unprotected gun fire, including quite a few rounds out of 357 snubbies, a lifetime of SMG and machinegun fire, decades of daily heavy equipment exposure, and a few other "noisy" things.

When they tested me a couple of months ago, they said Ive lost a little over 50% of my hearing now. So color me skeptical about the 3 rounds of 357 taking 10% of your hearing.

 

[Garandimal]

Hmmm, if you say so.

According to your math, I should be so deaf, I should be coming back around to hearing again!

I just recently got hearing aides, after close to 60 years of unprotected gun fire, including quite a few rounds out of 357 snubbies, a lifetime of SMG and machinegun fire, decades of daily heavy equipment exposure, and a few other "noisy" things.

When they tested me a couple of months ago, they said Ive lost a little over 50% of my hearing now. So color me skeptical about the 3 rounds of 357 taking 10% of your hearing.

"Huh...?"



But then, I used to be able to hear mosquitoes mating at 100 yards.

Those days are gone.

Can't wait for your next regale of firearms related extravganzo.

Fascinating...


In the mean time, the subsonic low-pressure .45 ACP makes a good SD round for confined spaces.




GR

 

[AK103K]

In the mean time, the subsonic low-pressure .45 ACP makes a good SD round for confined spaces.


GR

Sure, if you suppress it.

Even then, its still going to be fairly loud in an enclosed space.

And suppressed 45 is still generally louder than suppressed 9mm. Or at least thats been my experience.


Just curious, but how did you come up with those three rounds of 357 taking 10% of your hearing?

 

[Garandimal]

Sure, if you suppress it.

Even then, its still going to be fairly loud in an enclosed space.

And suppressed 45 is still generally louder than suppressed 9mm. Or at least thats been my experience.


Just curious, but how did you come up with those three rounds of 357 taking 10% of your hearing?

Now I can only hear mosquitoes mating out to 90 yards.




Subsonic low-pressure .45 ACP - Better for SD in confined spaces than either 9mm or .357 Mag.

...more effective than arrows.




GR

 

[AK103K]

So unsuppressed subsonic 9mm is louder than unsuppressed subsonic 45? How much?

I have two guns with suppressors for house use, should they be needed. Not looking forward to shooting either of them in the house either, 9mm or 5.56. Still, its better than no suppressor.

Anywhere else, it just is what it is, suppressed or not, and will the least of my worries in the moment.


Soooo, are we avoiding the hearing loss question now? Im thinking youre hoping it goes away, eh? The question I mean.

 

[Garandimal]

So unsuppressed subsonic 9mm is louder than unsuppressed subsonic 45? How much?

Std. 9mm: smaller diameter/ 35K psi.
.45 ACP: larger diameter/ 21K psi.

I can solve the problem ahead of time, because I know I won't have earpro.

Or, I could just ignore it, and then have other things to worry about at the time.




GR

 

[AK103K]

Std. 9mm: smaller diameter/ 35K psi.
.45 ACP: larger diameter/ 21K psi.

I can solve the problem ahead of time, because I know I won't have earpro.

Or, I could just ignore it, and then be too busy at the time because I have other things to worry about.




GR

What's your point? They are both subsonic and running at similar velocities. So how much louder?

I'm only asking since you keep bringing it up and making a big deal about it.

Not sure what you're going on about at the end there.

 

[Garandimal]

What's your point? They are both subsonic and running at similar velocities. So how much louder?

I'm only asking since you keep bringing it up and making a big deal about it.

Not sure what you're going on about at the end there.

This thread is about .45 ACP single-stack SD/CCW pistols, their comfort and ease of carry, and their ability to more than adequately satisfy the needs of the 1:6,000 SD encounter.

You, on the other hand, carry service pistols, have access to silencers, advocate snubnose .357 Magnums, and are deaf by gunfire yet are hung up on the significance of it.

What's your relevant point pertaining to this thread?




GR

 

[AK103K]

Hey, you started making some questionable statements that needed some clarification, I was simply asking for you to do so.

All you had to do was answer the questions.

 

[CDW4ME]

This thread is about rationalizing/justifying/defending .45 ACP single-stack SD/CCW pistols, their comfort and ease of carry, and their ability to more than adequately satisfy the needs of the 1:6,000 SD encounter.
GR

FIFY.
More bullets are better. Glock 30>36

 

[Garandimal]

FIFY.
More bullets are better. Glock 30>36

Carry what you deem necessary, and that you will always have with you.

Statistically, the odds of encountering/drawing/firing more than Six(6) rounds to stop the threat, in a self defense situation? Are about 1/6,000.

...Or, only about 66% greater than the odds of ending up a Highway Fatality that same year. (1/10,000)




GR

 

[AK103K]

Carry what you deem necessary, and that you will always have with you.

Statistically, the odds of encountering/drawing/firing more than Six(6) rounds to stop the threat, in a self defense situation? Are about 1/6,000.

...Or, only about 66% greater than the odds of ending up a Highway Fatality that same year. (1/10,000)




GR

I agree 110% on the first part.

Statistics mean nothing when it ends up being your turn to be in the barrel.

Just be realistic in your choices, and work hard with it for that "1 of anything" thats supposedly never going to happen. Thats the one that counts.

 

[CDW4ME]

Carry what you deem necessary, and that you will always have with you.

Statistically, the odds of encountering/drawing/firing more than Six(6) rounds to stop the threat, in a self defense situation? Are about 1/6,000.

...Or, only about 66% greater than the odds of ending up a Highway Fatality that same year. (1/10,000)

GR

I've been carrying since 1992.
Of the concealable handguns I own, I strive to carry something I'd prefer to have in hand if I had to defend myself.
For the past several months that was a Glock 23 AIWB; however, lately I've gone back to Glock 21SF AIWB (This includes 2 mile walks with my dogs).
If I was under a 10 round limit then my Glock 30SF would be 1st pick.
A spare mag for the Glock plus a 2nd option™ pistol (Shield 40 or XDs 45) in my weak hand front pocket go along with whatever Glock thats IWB.
I'm retired, so I dress I as choose (for concealment) and I live in a "good" area.

 

[9mmepiphany]

I can't believe we're still on this and not getting very far

Maybe the points the OP would like to see discussed, with a narrower focus in another OP would be a better place to continue or put off further discussions