Glock or Beretta?
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pauli
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are you only open to options from those two manufacturers?
asteffes
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Choose the pistol that feels the best in your hands, makes you the most confident and that you can shoot the most accurately.
Ala Dan
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If I were in the market for a .40 caliber handgun, I would strongly consider
the SIGARMS P229 or P226. Why? SIG's are world class firearms that are
known for their extreme reliability, accuracy, and craftsmanship.
the SIGARMS P229 or P226. Why? SIG's are world class firearms that are
known for their extreme reliability, accuracy, and craftsmanship.
Vernal45
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Glock or Beretta. Both are great guns and will serve you well. If I had to pick I would go with the Glock. The Glock 22 carries 15 + 1, the Beretta is 11 + 1. I am a big Beretta nut, I have 3 92FS's. If we are talking 9mm, I would say Beretta.
Or, you can wait until the PX4 is out, then get the 40 cal in Beretta.
Or, you can wait until the PX4 is out, then get the 40 cal in Beretta.
Black Majik
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For a range gun, I'd pick the Beretta 96FS.
If it was for CCW, I'd go for a Glock 23
If it was for overall, I'd pick a SIG P229R
If it was for CCW, I'd go for a Glock 23
If it was for overall, I'd pick a SIG P229R
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Boss Spearman
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I've had all 3. I'd pick the Glock 23 first, followed by the Beretta 96, both over any Sig.
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i had a beretta96 for just over a year and must say i really liked it. accuracy was good, fit and finish top notch. the trigger was a tad heavy (typical beretta) but at the same time was like glass. was the inox ss model with factory hogue grips, a real looker. that said the function sometimes hiccuped. bout half a dozen ftf in 1200 rounds which really bugged me. bugged me enuff that it just recently got traded for a 6in ss ruger gp100 .357mag.
in .40 again i would look to the CZ75. in 9mm i wud get beretta92FS. i have read a couple places that the 92fs edges out it's 96 cousin in the area of reliability. my experience jives with this statement.
the glock i wouldn't really consider as i've handled a G21 and to me they seem too toy-like to warrant the price tags they currently command. of course they're supposed to be reliable so.... i just like steel.
i had a beretta96 for just over a year and must say i really liked it. accuracy was good, fit and finish top notch. the trigger was a tad heavy (typical beretta) but at the same time was like glass. was the inox ss model with factory hogue grips, a real looker. that said the function sometimes hiccuped. bout half a dozen ftf in 1200 rounds which really bugged me. bugged me enuff that it just recently got traded for a 6in ss ruger gp100 .357mag.
in .40 again i would look to the CZ75. in 9mm i wud get beretta92FS. i have read a couple places that the 92fs edges out it's 96 cousin in the area of reliability. my experience jives with this statement.
the glock i wouldn't really consider as i've handled a G21 and to me they seem too toy-like to warrant the price tags they currently command. of course they're supposed to be reliable so.... i just like steel.
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I have a Beretta 92FS that has never given me a problem - I've had it since 98, For a 9mm, it is my fav design. If you are not very familar with handguns, the safety/decocker is a nice feature that the Glock doesn't have either.
Some people take a while to get used to the glock trigger. I have owned many guns over the years, and I always shoot Glocks low and to the left. I don't do that with any other gun.
Anyway, as someone else said. See how they both feel. And choose the best. Can you rent them at a range? there is a range here where you can rent guns for $5 each.
Be aware that the plastic framed guns will generally have a bit more muzzle flip than heavier metal guns. Stainless is the best, but the aluminum frame of the Beretta is nice too!
Some people take a while to get used to the glock trigger. I have owned many guns over the years, and I always shoot Glocks low and to the left. I don't do that with any other gun.
Anyway, as someone else said. See how they both feel. And choose the best. Can you rent them at a range? there is a range here where you can rent guns for $5 each.
Be aware that the plastic framed guns will generally have a bit more muzzle flip than heavier metal guns. Stainless is the best, but the aluminum frame of the Beretta is nice too!
I have a beretta 96G elite that I've had about five years. I have about 3500 rounds through it and have never had a malfunction. I will shoot everything from The cheep stuff to premo hand loads. acuracy was great right out of the box with good ammo. I can't say much about the glock as I have never owned one. I just don't like the feel, but that is just me. I shoot IDPA with a glock owner and his is fussy about what you feed it. With the right ammo it is flawless, with the wrong ammo you would be better off throwung it at the bad guy. the only sig I have is a 220 in 45 acp I would definatly take a look at one in 40 though. as far as capasity my beretta is 10+1 with diffrent mags its 11+1, if you can't hit your target with 12 what make you thing your going to hit it with 14 or 15. You better of with the gun that fits you best and your the most confortable with regardless how many rounds it will carry.
10-Ring
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Of all the 40's I've owned & shot, the Beretta 96 was the nicest of the bunch. So, I'd recommend the 96
I've got a G22 with just over 10,000 rounds through it. Not one single problem that wasn't due to out of spec ammo in 10K rounds, NOT ONE!!! The grip is a little larger than I like. The trigger is a little heavier than I like. The stock sights really suck. I put some traction aids on the grip, polished a little on the trigger to make it heavy but smooth, and put on a quality set of steel sights. Now I have a gun that I trust completely and shoot decently. I KNOW it will work if I need it and I can shoot it well enough to be comfortable with it.
I have a Taurus PT now and have owned the Beretta guns in the past. The Beretta is a quality gun, well known for reliability and good accuracy for a service gun. I have one major beef with the Beretta, the slide mounted safety is nearly impossible for me to manipulate and it operates backwards of what I think it should. My hands are on the small side but the slide mounted safeties are the only ones I have problems with. Because of this I would not recommend a Beretta, I think the Taurus gun is a far better choice.
Which one would I recommend between the Taurus and the Glock? Boy, I really don't know. The Glock is a little smaller overall, and would be easier to conceal if that is a factor. For a house gun or a range gun pick the one that feels best in your hand.
I have a Taurus PT now and have owned the Beretta guns in the past. The Beretta is a quality gun, well known for reliability and good accuracy for a service gun. I have one major beef with the Beretta, the slide mounted safety is nearly impossible for me to manipulate and it operates backwards of what I think it should. My hands are on the small side but the slide mounted safeties are the only ones I have problems with. Because of this I would not recommend a Beretta, I think the Taurus gun is a far better choice.
Which one would I recommend between the Taurus and the Glock? Boy, I really don't know. The Glock is a little smaller overall, and would be easier to conceal if that is a factor. For a house gun or a range gun pick the one that feels best in your hand.
Krag
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While I love the way my Beretta Elite feels and handles, the Glock 22 is a more compact handgun and thus convenient to carry on a regular basis. It can even be used for CCW while I feel the Beretta it too large for that role. I shoot them both equally well.
peashooter
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Both are top of the line and will serve you well. Try them both and carefully consider your needs and then decide. None of us on this forum will be able to know what your situation is or is likely to be, only you can best assess that.
i own both the glock 22 and the beretta 96. i've carried both the sig 226 and 229 as issue guns.
the most reliable has been the glock 22, but it just won't shoot well for me...it just doesn't fit (the 23 really is nicer). the most accurate has been the sig 226, but i've had some FTF problems and it just isn't as smooth operating as my 9mm 226.
my beretta is the gun that stopped me from giving up on the .40 after shooting the glock 22 and sig 229. mine has never had a FTF or FTE in serveral thousand rounds. it is the smoothest orperating .40 i have ever handled. the trigger was a bit heavy when i got it, but ernest langdon smoothed and lightened it right up.
it max mag capacity isn't your primary deciding factor, you don't mine having the option of a safety and it fits your hand i don't think you could go wrong with the beretta 96...i even CCW mine in an alessi ACP
the most reliable has been the glock 22, but it just won't shoot well for me...it just doesn't fit (the 23 really is nicer). the most accurate has been the sig 226, but i've had some FTF problems and it just isn't as smooth operating as my 9mm 226.
my beretta is the gun that stopped me from giving up on the .40 after shooting the glock 22 and sig 229. mine has never had a FTF or FTE in serveral thousand rounds. it is the smoothest orperating .40 i have ever handled. the trigger was a bit heavy when i got it, but ernest langdon smoothed and lightened it right up.
it max mag capacity isn't your primary deciding factor, you don't mine having the option of a safety and it fits your hand i don't think you could go wrong with the beretta 96...i even CCW mine in an alessi ACP
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We're comparing Vienna sausages and pizzas here.
If you like plastic, want a single action only cocked and unlocked that is lightweight, get the Glock.
If you want DA/SA, rather stick to an aluminum frame and don't mind the weight, get the Beretta.
Berettas in anything other than fullsize are not that common. With the Glock, you have the long slide Tactical/Practical (model 35, do they still call them Tactical Practical?), the fullsize, midsize and subcompacts. Something to consider.
If you get the Beretta, call them up and order the double action model mainspring, it's $2.
If you like plastic, want a single action only cocked and unlocked that is lightweight, get the Glock.
If you want DA/SA, rather stick to an aluminum frame and don't mind the weight, get the Beretta.
Berettas in anything other than fullsize are not that common. With the Glock, you have the long slide Tactical/Practical (model 35, do they still call them Tactical Practical?), the fullsize, midsize and subcompacts. Something to consider.
If you get the Beretta, call them up and order the double action model mainspring, it's $2.
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If it's an FS it will decock the hammer and disengage the trigger.
The G Berettas (Elite, Elite II, G-SD, Elite IA) the hammer will decock, and decocker will bounce back up and the trigger is ready to go.
Skunk
The G Berettas (Elite, Elite II, G-SD, Elite IA) the hammer will decock, and decocker will bounce back up and the trigger is ready to go.
Skunk
Gixerman1000
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The 96FS is a well made pistol but it was not designed with 40sw in mind and there was very little updating done from the 9mm 92FS, the slide could use a little more mass to help tame the extra recoil and slow the slide down a little (this was addressed with the BRIGADIER model) but it's still a smooth shooter. For it's size the 96FS mag capacity of 11+1 bites a little, size also hinders it’s use to some for CCW, it would better serve for range, HD and as a service/OCW. The long DA/SA trigger pull requires a little more training to become efficient with than the Glock trigger but it’s safer for those with less training in general.
The Glocks suffer from a few of the drawbacks that the 96FS does in that it was not designed with 40sw in mind and received very little updating from it's 9mm counterparts, the most infamous being the chambers 6 o-clock case support and being a little more susceptible to case rupture but I see this as more of a reloading issue than anything else. The low bore axis and the flex of the polymer frame keep the recoil for the most part under control but it's still a little snappy. Low weight and slim dimensions make it better suited for a wider range of carry options and with 5 different sized models available you can get the one that best fits you needs. The mag capacity is impressive 15+1 for G22,G24 & G35, 13+1 for G23 and 9+1 for the sub compact G27.
Of the pistols in 40sw I own,
Beretta 96FS
Glock G22
HK USP40
Sig P229
S&W4004
S&W SW99
Springfield XD40
Steyr M40
all are 100% reliable and accurate but I like the USP40 and the Sig229 the most.
The Glocks suffer from a few of the drawbacks that the 96FS does in that it was not designed with 40sw in mind and received very little updating from it's 9mm counterparts, the most infamous being the chambers 6 o-clock case support and being a little more susceptible to case rupture but I see this as more of a reloading issue than anything else. The low bore axis and the flex of the polymer frame keep the recoil for the most part under control but it's still a little snappy. Low weight and slim dimensions make it better suited for a wider range of carry options and with 5 different sized models available you can get the one that best fits you needs. The mag capacity is impressive 15+1 for G22,G24 & G35, 13+1 for G23 and 9+1 for the sub compact G27.
Of the pistols in 40sw I own,
Beretta 96FS
Glock G22
HK USP40
Sig P229
S&W4004
S&W SW99
Springfield XD40
Steyr M40
all are 100% reliable and accurate but I like the USP40 and the Sig229 the most.
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Get the Taurus copy of the Beretta and use the saved money for your first years worth of ammo cost! Plus the Tarus version has a frame mounted safety/decoker which means down for fire up for safe (not awkward IMO ).
If you're looking for a .40 S&W and like the glock, you should look at a Springfield Armory XD, they have glock styling but are not as blocky so i think it would be better for concealed carry. My dad was in the Marines when they first "adopted" the 92FS, i hear nothing but swear words and horror stories when people ask him what he thinks of berettas. I would go with either the glock or the XD
By far the best two .40 S&Ws I have owned were a Beretta 96 ("Border Marshal")--I am still kicking myself for trading it off--and a Walther P99. Both were incredibly accurate and easy-shooting weapons. Like someone else mentioned earlier, the Beretta is what kept me from totally writing off the .40 S&W.
I suppose someone should mention the reputation--without judging the accuracy of that reputation one way or the other--of the Glock 22 for catastrophic failures. It is something that should be considered in the possible selection of the Glock (again, what a person does with it is their own business). For a "big picture" view, you might want to peruse the following website http://www.thegunzone.com/glock/gindex2.html. Though it is often incorrectly portrayed as being anti-Glock, if you take it in its entirety, it presents a fair and balanced look at Glocks and Glock, Inc.
I suppose someone should mention the reputation--without judging the accuracy of that reputation one way or the other--of the Glock 22 for catastrophic failures. It is something that should be considered in the possible selection of the Glock (again, what a person does with it is their own business). For a "big picture" view, you might want to peruse the following website http://www.thegunzone.com/glock/gindex2.html. Though it is often incorrectly portrayed as being anti-Glock, if you take it in its entirety, it presents a fair and balanced look at Glocks and Glock, Inc.
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just to show you how out of touch i am with the .40 calibre pistols, i'd completely forgotten that it is also in the walther p99 and the springfield XD40
i have a p99 in 9mm and really like the interchangable backstraps, the ambi mag releases and the location of the decocker. the trigger pull does take some getting used to...the DA is long and smooth, but the reset is amazingly short.
i really like the XD too and would choose it over the glock. i like the glock's grip angle but the XD seems to fit my hand better. i prefer the tactical/service model as the longer barrel/slide seems to balance better.
i have a p99 in 9mm and really like the interchangable backstraps, the ambi mag releases and the location of the decocker. the trigger pull does take some getting used to...the DA is long and smooth, but the reset is amazingly short.
i really like the XD too and would choose it over the glock. i like the glock's grip angle but the XD seems to fit my hand better. i prefer the tactical/service model as the longer barrel/slide seems to balance better.
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