MisterMike
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Am I the only one who wants to kick himself for clicking on these threads?
Glocks aren't the best.....
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Wasn't callin you out Tuner
just adding fuel to the fire which is what a thread of this topic needs. You and I both know there are Glock haters, at the range, online, in my family!!I like stirring the pot....Guess what, a Glock didn't fit my hand either. Amazing what practice with persistence can do. Now it feels second nature. Carry and shoot what you please...don't hate!!
NinjaFeint
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1911 or High Power=the cult of JMB
HK P7 folks are pretty fanboyish and HK in general
CZ dudes got some fanboy going on
It's a love the one you are with thing. I wouldn't trade my G17 for anything but it's not even my favorite gun. That would be my GP100.
I like this. Its so true. How many people around do that exact thing. Everything around us is looked at as a symbol of who we are. Why that is I dont know but its kind of funny. I personally prefer to talk to someone in order to understand who they are. But then again my ipods blue the silver one just isn't me
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We live in a society where many people think that their material possessions and choices define them as people. Oh....I don't want a "silver" ipod, that's just not me....I NEED the "blue" one to represent who I am.....
I like this. Its so true. How many people around do that exact thing. Everything around us is looked at as a symbol of who we are. Why that is I dont know but its kind of funny. I personally prefer to talk to someone in order to understand who they are. But then again my ipods blue the silver one just isn't me
Yeah. If they only made the glock in blue. Then I could really get behind a glock
We live in a society where many people think that their material possessions and choices define them as people. Oh....I don't want a "silver" ipod, that's just not me....I NEED the "blue" one to represent who I am.....
I like this. Its so true. How many people around do that exact thing. Everything around us is looked at as a symbol of who we are. Why that is I dont know but its kind of funny. I personally prefer to talk to someone in order to understand who they are. But then again my ipods blue the silver one just isn't me
Yeah. If they only made the glock in blue. Then I could really get behind a glock
230therapy
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I think Glocks are the best in the maintenance department.
They're very easy to work on. I don't really need to know anything, unlike with a 1911 or SIG. A cheap $25 manual, a few tools, roll of duct tape and some parts are all that I need. If the gun develops a problem, I just replace parts in the slide and frame one at a time until it works again (there are some common culprits, so they get replaced first).
They don't even point well for me. However, I don't even consider that in any equation. It's not important at all. What is important is training with the gun such that the shooter is proficient with it. I am very proficient with my Glocks because I train with them frequently.
I chose the Glock in 9x19mm at the time because they were the most reliable, lowest price with best balance between concealability, capacity and shootability. No dehorning was necessary and the gun store could install night sights. I was very much into Browning Hi-Powers, but one too many cuts in a self-defense class resulted in those guns being sold off. It was simply too expensive to dehorn and refinish a gun that should have had it done at the factory.
If I knew how to work on SIGs and 1911's, I'd probably stick with those. But, at this point, investing $2500 in a great 1911 just isn't attractive. I've done the non-functional low end 1911 thing. Repeated trips to the range for testing just isn't productive in comparison to the many service grade guns available today. I may get a high end 1911 one day, but for now I'll stay with my $500 guns.
The brand I chose is not attached to my personality. It just isn't important like proficiency in shooting and tactics. The ability to pick up any handgun and use it effectively is far more important than an ego boost through the exercise of a credit card.
They're very easy to work on. I don't really need to know anything, unlike with a 1911 or SIG. A cheap $25 manual, a few tools, roll of duct tape and some parts are all that I need. If the gun develops a problem, I just replace parts in the slide and frame one at a time until it works again (there are some common culprits, so they get replaced first).
They don't even point well for me. However, I don't even consider that in any equation. It's not important at all. What is important is training with the gun such that the shooter is proficient with it. I am very proficient with my Glocks because I train with them frequently.
I chose the Glock in 9x19mm at the time because they were the most reliable, lowest price with best balance between concealability, capacity and shootability. No dehorning was necessary and the gun store could install night sights. I was very much into Browning Hi-Powers, but one too many cuts in a self-defense class resulted in those guns being sold off. It was simply too expensive to dehorn and refinish a gun that should have had it done at the factory.
If I knew how to work on SIGs and 1911's, I'd probably stick with those. But, at this point, investing $2500 in a great 1911 just isn't attractive. I've done the non-functional low end 1911 thing. Repeated trips to the range for testing just isn't productive in comparison to the many service grade guns available today. I may get a high end 1911 one day, but for now I'll stay with my $500 guns.
The brand I chose is not attached to my personality. It just isn't important like proficiency in shooting and tactics. The ability to pick up any handgun and use it effectively is far more important than an ego boost through the exercise of a credit card.
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I thought hate threads were against board rules here?
earlthegoat2
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I would never have but I saw there were no posts yet and I decided I wanted to be the first one to respond to the OP and tell it like it is.
1911Tuner
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Yep. It didn't work for me, though. Back in the day...when the first ones hit the scene...a friend of mine ran out and got one. Shortly after, the Navy called him back up for a 12-month assignment, and he left me in charge of his gun collection. Told me to shoot the thing all I wanted to...do I did. 10 months and several thousand rounds later, I was duly impressed...but I still couldn't make my hand wrap around it without feeling like it wanted to turn it loose. Of course, as a guitarist, I notice small differences with my hands. I can tell a tiny difference in string spacing and neck width before I pluck the first note...so the difference between a Glock and a 1911, or between a Glock and a Smith revolver is glaringly apparent.
rattletrap1970
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I don't think there is a gun I own that in some small way I'd change something if I could (and in some cases I do). I've never owned a Glock, but recently at the range someone offered to let me shoot this little sub compact 40S&W. No idea what model the Glock was, they have so many I can't keep track. These are things I noted about it:
1. I have to say, the trigger was not as bad as I had thought it would be. That scissor thing always weirded me out, but, it really wasn't bad.
2. The gun, overall, was very light (I could certainly see that carrying it would be very comfortable).
3. I have small hands and this thing was small for me.
4. The size and weight made it VERY snappy when fired. (I wouldn't want to shoot it a lot). But then, at that size, it's for personal defense. Other than shooting it enough to be comfortable and proficient with it, not sure you'd shoot it a lot anyway.
5. Although very snappy, it was far more accurate that I would have believed.
6. God they are ugly, I'd go so far as to say fugly. There are just some guns I don't take a liking to aesthetically. This is one of them. Would I trust it? Yes. Would I buy one? Sure. Would it be my favorite to look at? No.
1. I have to say, the trigger was not as bad as I had thought it would be. That scissor thing always weirded me out, but, it really wasn't bad.
2. The gun, overall, was very light (I could certainly see that carrying it would be very comfortable).
3. I have small hands and this thing was small for me.
4. The size and weight made it VERY snappy when fired. (I wouldn't want to shoot it a lot). But then, at that size, it's for personal defense. Other than shooting it enough to be comfortable and proficient with it, not sure you'd shoot it a lot anyway.
5. Although very snappy, it was far more accurate that I would have believed.
6. God they are ugly, I'd go so far as to say fugly. There are just some guns I don't take a liking to aesthetically. This is one of them. Would I trust it? Yes. Would I buy one? Sure. Would it be my favorite to look at? No.
Prion
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Reread all the posts and try again Ben. A G19 is on my short list. I own many different manufactures and enjoy them all. The ones I didn't enjoy so much? Bye Bye. I sold my TRP, sold a CZ to someone here at THR, sold my XDM9, sold my FNAR, etc. Not because I hate them or am dedicated to one gun at the expense of all others. They didn't work for me. They are all good weapons. I am not a hater, this is not a hate thread.
The point of this thread is explore the unequalled, fanatical, fanboyism that Glocks seem to elicite. My posting of the accompanying article explains why this occurs. It is an irrational over-glorification of a material object caused by peoples need to prove they made the best choice. Glocks are not perfect yet people claim this ridiculous statement to be true. That is why I picked on Glock. Fanboys embrace many different brands and products, Glockies are a special breed though!!!
I'll post a pick of my autoloader family after I pick up a G19. It includes Sigs, HKs, and M&Ps. One of each in 9 and 45.
The point of this thread is explore the unequalled, fanatical, fanboyism that Glocks seem to elicite. My posting of the accompanying article explains why this occurs. It is an irrational over-glorification of a material object caused by peoples need to prove they made the best choice. Glocks are not perfect yet people claim this ridiculous statement to be true. That is why I picked on Glock. Fanboys embrace many different brands and products, Glockies are a special breed though!!!
I'll post a pick of my autoloader family after I pick up a G19. It includes Sigs, HKs, and M&Ps. One of each in 9 and 45.
joe_security
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I have to side with 1911 Tuner on this one...My Gen1 G22 is accurate and dependable. Its never failed, ever. But it feels like a 2by4 compared to a 1911. And it beats the heck out of my right hand, which the 1911 does not do. I can see why the Police Depts. buy Glocks, they are tough, dependable and have only one trigger pull to learn. I am also big on K-frames, having packed one for armored transport back in the day.
LiveLife
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I wonder why ...
I am sure there are forums where Snap-On, Mac Tools, Klein Tools, Craftsman (with Craftsman being the Lee equivalent) fans have similar discussions.
Rattletrap that's the 27, it was the first Glock I bought out of two, and my favorite one. Yeah, the first few times I shot it I was a bit surprised, but after a few range sessions I really warmed up to it, my shooting with it got faster and stronger, and the recoil didn't bother me nearly as much.
I bought it specifically for carry, I actually didn't really like Glocks much when I bought it, but it was the .40 subcompact that was smallest and carried a respectable amount of rounds, while maintaining a 3.5" barrel. It kind of won me over, but the 23 I bought next I don't really care for in the same way. I think I'll get either a 35, 17, or 31 at some point to see how I like those, leaning towards the 17.
I bought it specifically for carry, I actually didn't really like Glocks much when I bought it, but it was the .40 subcompact that was smallest and carried a respectable amount of rounds, while maintaining a 3.5" barrel. It kind of won me over, but the 23 I bought next I don't really care for in the same way. I think I'll get either a 35, 17, or 31 at some point to see how I like those, leaning towards the 17.
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Glocks
Whether or not you're a fan of Glocks is certainly a very personal decision. That said, there are some indisputable advantages:
Reliability
Durability
Value for the money
Simplicity
Availability of parts/service/accessories
Higher than average magazine capacities
Better than average accuracy
Sure there are guns that are more precise, but they usually cost 2 to 3 times more. There are also plenty of guns that look better, but unless you plan on impressing an attacker to death, why does that really matter?
I thought long an hard about a higher end 1911, but for all the reasons above I went with a Glock 21 SF and love it. I'm already planning my next Glock purchase.
Whether or not you're a fan of Glocks is certainly a very personal decision. That said, there are some indisputable advantages:
Reliability
Durability
Value for the money
Simplicity
Availability of parts/service/accessories
Higher than average magazine capacities
Better than average accuracy
Sure there are guns that are more precise, but they usually cost 2 to 3 times more. There are also plenty of guns that look better, but unless you plan on impressing an attacker to death, why does that really matter?
I thought long an hard about a higher end 1911, but for all the reasons above I went with a Glock 21 SF and love it. I'm already planning my next Glock purchase.
They may be perfect for certain people. Just like an XDM, TRP, or FN may be perfect for certain people.
The reasoning for this, that you feel the need to understand, is in the post by Gunlover above.
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