GOA Accomplishments?

[guil2000]

OK, I’ve seen enough. This GOA campaign against the NRA has to stop. This is my first post here (maybe last), but I have been reading this forum for years.

It should be obvious to all that there has been an on-going push from GOA and its minions to discredit the NRA. Just look at the recent misinformation spread about the “Veterans Disarmament Bill” as GOA calls it. And now comes today’s article about the New Orleans gun confiscation and the NRA’s efforts to return the guns to the rightful owners.

So what happens when somebody posts this news story? Well, we had a couple of others jump in to say that it was about time that NRA did something about New Orleans. Talk about spreading lies.

People, the NRA and SAF teamed up on this and were in New Orleans right on the heels of the clean-up crews filing their lawsuit to correct this. This case has been documented from the beginning both on the NRA’s and SAF’s web sites, as well as on this board and many others. Yet a few so-called knowledgeable pro-gun people would lead you to believe the NRA and SAF has done nothing. Actually just the NRA, since GOA usually just ignores SAF. Too bad, since SAF is a very good organization and has worked together with the NRA numerous times in the past.

This same thing is going on all over the gun forums, and what is really funny is that you can read the same posts from the same NRA bashers on ARFCOM, The High Road, The Firing Line, etc. Don’t believe me, just start looking around. Now it may be a relatively small group responsible for all this crap, but you really have to ask yourself just what is the object of this smear campaign.

Let’s see now, we have about 80 million gun owners in the US, about 4 million belong to the NRA, and maybe about another half million belong to GOA, JFPO, SAF, and all others combined. By now you can figure that those other 75+ million gun owners will never get off their butts and join any group, so just where would you try to get new members (read dollars) from? Of course, we’ll steal them away from the NRA. And we’ll try and make any new people believe that the NRA is really an anti-gun group trying to take away your rights. All we have to do is yell “no compromise” enough and everybody will rally to us.

We’ll start by blurring the distinctions between the NRA, the NRA-ILA, the NRA-PVF, and the NRA Foundation. We can’t let anybody know about all the educational, training, and safety programs the NRA conducts, and all the outright grants provided to enhance shooting ranges, youth training, law enforcement training, hunter safety, and Eddie Eagle. We’ll just ignore all the laws passed due to the NRA to preserve ranges and wilderness areas, and the fact that we now have 38 states with shall-issue concealed carry laws due to the NRA’s on-going efforts. Can’t mention things like Castle Doctrine laws or Stand Your Ground laws. Of course, we ignore what one NRA Board of Directors member did in Congress to get the Assault Weapons law to sunset and to protect manufacturers from lawsuits, but we dredge up some obscure statement made by another about four years ago about magazine capacity. Hey, why stop there. Let’s go back to 1934 and bash the NRA for that while we’re at it. And 1968. And 1986. Oops, can’t do that. GOA (founded 1975) didn’t do anything to stop the machine gun ban. Or the Assault Weapons ban. Or, come to think of it, what did they do?

You know, this is easier than we thought. We have the Black Rifle crowd, the hunters, shotgunners, handgunners, competitive shooters, etc. None of these idiots care about any of the others, so we should be able to drive a few wedges between them and siphon off more money.

Now, what do we have to do? Well, can’t have any of those educational, training, or safety programs since that costs money. Can’t make any grants to Boy Scouts, 4-H, or any other shooting clubs for the same reason. Can’t get involved at state level for anything (money again), besides, who really cares about that anyway. Also can’t have too many employees since that would spread the wealth around too much, so we’ll just keep it in the family.

I know, we’ll bill ourselves as the national no-compromise organization and make everything out to be a matter of black and white. We’ll make ourselves out to be a highly principled organization, refusing to compromise anything, while making the NRA look like gun-grabbers. The best part is that we won’t have to do a thing since we refuse to discuss any gun law. All we have to do is send out an e-mail every now and again saying how screwed up the NRA is and telling everybody to write their congressman to protest the latest bill. After all, those congress critters won’t even bother talking to us since they know we won’t compromise. We just say no to everything, that’s it. Wow, this really is easy.

Sarcasm? Maybe a little, but not too far off the mark.

OK, this is long enough, but in closing I ask one question. I have asked this before numerous times elsewhere but never gotten an answer to it. Just what has GOA actually accomplished? Please provide one law passed due to their efforts or one law shot down due to GOA alone. Better yet, tell me something about their firearm training, educational, or safety programs. Tell me about self-defense laws GOA has gotten passed. Tell me about their efforts to further any of the shooting sports, or women’s programs, youth programs, range conservation, anything.

Ben Franklin was right, we’ll all be hanging separately. Think about it. The NRA never bashes GOA or any other pro-gun group, but GOA never misses an opportunity to twist things against the NRA. Again, ask yourself why and just who stands to gain from these actions.

 

[Henry Bowman]

Fair enough question. Keep your responses to the high road.

Just as we do not tolerate NRA-bashing fest, there is no benefit to GOA-bashing.

 

[Zedicus]

http://gunowners.org/a121307.htm

Thursday, December 13, 2007

When people look back on 2007, they may remember the several, notable shootings that took place: the massacre at Virginia Tech in April, the slayings at the Nebraska and Utah malls, and the most recent killings in Colorado -- a shooting that could have eclipsed all of the previous ones if one courageous lady, Jeanne Assam, had not been armed with a gun.

Gun Owners of America has been there each step of the way, sometimes serving as the only national gun group which has regularly appeared on national television, arguing for the right to keep and bear arms.

Just this week, GOA's Larry Pratt appeared on Fox News to debate the Brady Campaign in the aftermath of the Colorado-church shooting. Pratt hailed Assam as a hero and called for the elimination of gun free zones which leave victims defenseless.

While GOA considers it very important to inform the general public on the practical value of the Second Amendment, there’s much more that we have done to defend our freedoms in the legislative and judicial halls around the country. The following is just a glimpse of what GOA has been able to accomplish this year with YOUR HELP. So let's take a look at our work together, month by month.

January

* As the year dawns, Gun Owners of America is headed for the U.S. Supreme Court! GOA begins preparing its amicus brief in the FEC v. Wisconsin RTL case -- a case that became important to gun owners shortly after last year's elections when the Brady Campaign asked the Federal Election Commission to shut down GOA's ability to post its candidate ratings on the Internet.

In this amicus brief, Gun Owners of America led a coalition of organizations to argue before the Supreme Court, realizing that a victory at the nation's highest court would take the wind out of Brady's sails and protect the right of GOA members and the public to read our candidate ratings on the Internet. (See "June Part 2" for the final resolution of this case.)

* In Congress, GOA wins an early battle against legislation introduced by Sen. Harry Reid (D-NV) that would have required GOA to monitor and report on its communications with its members and friends (like you). GOA helps produce an outpouring of calls against this anti-speech language (S. 1), and the pernicious text is subsequently dropped from the bill.

February -- March

* GOA spends a lot of time in the state legislatures during the early part of the year lobbying for bills that would protect the right of self-defense (a.k.a., the Castle Doctrine) and would allow law-abiding gun owners to carry firearms without getting permission from the government (known as Vermont-style carry).

* GOA also begins lobbying for bills that would outlaw gun confiscations during declared emergencies. Gun Owners helps citizens of Arizona and Montana to become the most recent states to outlaw the type of gun thefts that occurred in New Orleans after Hurricane Katrina. More than a dozen states have now enacted such laws.

* In the nation's capital, GOA begins its campaign against the Veterans Disarmament Act and activates its members all over the country to oppose the legislation introduced by the Queen of Gun Control, Rep. Carolyn McCarthy (D) of New York. (More on this below.)

April -- May

* As the nation watches the horrifying images coming from Virginia Tech on April 16, gun control advocates heighten their calls for greater restrictions. GOA spokesmen spend countless hours on Capitol Hill and in the media. In just the first two weeks following the shooting, GOA appeared in several hundred news outlets across the country (newspaper articles, radio talk shows and TV debates).

* The April shooting jumpstarts anti-gun legislation sponsored by Rep. McCarthy and Senator Chuck Schumer. In the name of stopping bad guys like the Virginia Tech gunman, the Veterans Disarmament Act would disarm hundreds of thousands of military veterans who are suffering the ailments that frequently follow combat stress.

* Gun Owners of America begins activating its grassroots network on a weekly basis (sometimes more), generating thousands upon thousands of e-mails and phone calls into the House of Representatives in opposition to the Veterans Disarmament Act.

June (Part 1)

* Betrayal! The House Democrat leadership secretly conspires to bring up the Veterans Disarmament Act. Republicans find out the bill is coming to the floor with only a couple of hours lead time. On June 13, the bill passes without a recorded vote, and very few Representatives are even present on the floor of the House.

As the bill moves to the Senate, GOA continues fighting the bill and works to get other groups to join the battle. On June 18, the Military Order of the Purple Heart takes a strong position against the McCarthy-Schumer text.

* In other legislative battles, GOA helps kill an anti-gun immigration bill that was introduced by Senator Ted Kennedy (D-MA). The bill contains harmful language which, in the hands of a future anti-gun administration, would allow gun shops to be shut down and classified as "criminal gangs."

GOA gins up the grassroots in favor of a killer amendment that brings the huge debate over the amnesty bill to a screeching halt. That one amendment is credited by Capitol Hill insiders as being the biggest reason this anti-gun bill was defeated by a 53-46 vote in the Senate.

June (Part 2)

* Big news. GOA's Political Victory Fund raises thousands of dollars for GOA Life Member Dr. Paul Broun, who is running to replace the late Charlie Norwood in Georgia. The Republican Broun wins the special election by 373 votes and is now a member of the U.S. House of Representatives!

* More big news. The Supreme Court rules in favor of GOA in the FEC v. Wisconsin RTL case! This victory makes it almost certain that GOA will receive a favorable ruling from the Federal Election Commission in August, thus allowing GOA to continue posting its candidate ratings on the Internet.

July -- August

* As the Congress prepares to go on recess, GOA registers its complaints with an executive agency (Occupational Safety and Health Administration) after it proposed regulations that could bring the sale and transportation of ammunition in this country to a halt. Less than two weeks later, the Labor Department (which oversees OSHA) withdraws the regulations and states that, "OSHA is taking prompt action to revise [and] clarify the purpose of the regulation."

* GOA beats the Brady Campaign in the battle at the Federal Election Commission! The FEC dismisses the Brady Bunch's complaint against Gun Owners and states that we have broken no laws in posting our candidate ratings which educate the public.

September

* With Congress returning from their summer break, GOA continues to generate a flood of e-mails, postcards, letters and faxes into Senatorial offices -- all in opposition to the Veterans Disarmament Act.

* The fight against the McCarthy-Schumer bill is gaining steam, and GOA announces two key allies are joining the fight against the Veterans Disarmament Act. First, Senator Tom Coburn (R-OK) places a hold on the Schumer bill -- a "hold" being a parliamentary maneuver which stalls the legislation and keeps it from easily advancing. The Coburn hold has continued to bottle up the bill until this very day.

Second, the American Legion informs Senator Coburn that it is opposed to the Veterans Disarmament Act, as it would "abrogate the rights of certain service-connected disabled veterans to own firearms, a right guaranteed by the Second Amendment."

* In other issues, GOA works closely with Senator David Vitter (R-LA) to craft language which stipulates that no U.S. funds can be used by the United Nations -- or organizations affiliated with the UN -- to restrict or tax our gun rights. Sen. Vitter pushes the pro-gun language through the U.S. Senate on an 81-10 vote, as an amendment to the Department of State appropriations bill.

October

* GOA's founder and chairman, Sen. H.L. "Bill" Richardson (ret.), issues an open letter to the gun community urging them to encourage ALL PRO-GUN groups to stand united in opposition to the Veterans Disarmament Act.

The letter states unequivocally that no compromise is acceptable on the McCarthy-Schumer legislation.

* GOA activates its supporters in opposition to the Law of the Sea Treaty (LOST), as it could allow the UN to force the closing of firing ranges based on the bogus argument that runoff from these ranges pollutes the world's oceans.

November -- December

* Gun Owners Foundation begins preparing an amicus brief for the U.S. Supreme Court after the justices decide to take up Washington, D.C.'s appeal after its gun ban is declared unconstitutional. An appellate court ruled in March that the city's draconian gun ban violated the Second Amendment of the Constitution. The DC v. Heller case will likely be heard next spring.

* Gun Owners Foundation is also continuing its defense of Ignacio Ramos and Jose Alonso Compean -- the two border patrol agents who were convicted of shooting a Mexican drug smuggler on the U.S. side of the border. GOF attorneys filed an amicus brief earlier in the year which argued that Ramos and Compean were falsely convicted of "firing a gun during the commission of a crime" -- a crime that doesn't even exist in federal law.

While the "firing a gun" charge can serve as a sentence enhancement to an underlying crime, the prosecutor would have to show that the two border agents were unlawfully carrying firearms -- a ludicrous idea! It became very clear in December that two of the three judges hearing the agents' appeal were very familiar with GOF’s arguments, as their questions to the prosecutor repeatedly focused on this particular area of federal law. Prospects look good for a decision reversing their conviction next year.

* When the Senate recently came within a couple of hours of unanimously approving the anti-gun Michael Sullivan for the position of BATFE Director, GOA sent an emergency fax to every Senate office, urging them to oppose the Sullivan nomination. Thankfully, one senator filed an official objection to Sullivan, and his nomination was temporarily stalled.

GOA then generated a massive outpouring of opposition from its activists, which resulted in yet another Senator placing a "hold" on the Sullivan nomination. The anti-gun appointment has now been put off until next year.
PLEASE CONTINUE TO STAND WITH GOA IN 2008!

The ability of GOA to continue putting pressure on politicians depends on loyal activists like you. GOA has been the national leader when it comes to opposing the Veterans Disarmament Act.

In October, The Politico stated, "Gun Owners of America... has launched grassroots efforts across the nation, backed by military groups such as the Military Order of the Purple Heart and the American Legion."

Even as far back as April, Newsweek noted that, "The Gun Owners of America [has] already launched a public campaign to block the [McCarthy] legislation that the NRA supports, warning that the proposal could ‘block millions of additional, honest gun owners from buying firearms."

We can only continue fighting this pernicious legislation as long as you continue to stand with us. You can stand with us today by joining GOA or renewing your existing membership.

Thank you for your support.

 

[chemist308]

Sorry, but these are the best I could do:
http://www.gunowners.org/a121307.htm
http://gunowners.org/pres08/
http://www.gunowners.org/cgv.htm

I did email the GOA and ask for something more specific. I don't know if I'll hear back or not.

 

[benEzra]

Guil2000, well said.

The GOA should realize that their current bash-the-NRA approach is ultimately counterproductive not only to the RKBA, but to themselves. IMO, GOA has done a bit of damage to its most important asset with the current anti-NRA campaign, namely its own credibility, and I think it needs to step back and take steps to restore that trust.

 

[guil2000]

Nice try, but I can read the GOA web site myself. I do quite often. Now please, once again, tell me one law they have gotten passed or one law they have gotten repealed due to just their efforts. Give me something concrete instead of GOA's chest thumping.

This is the same thing that happens every time I ask the question. All anybody can do is point out the GOA web site and what they say they do. And if you have to go and ask GOA what they have done, then I guess they must not be doing much or you (and everybody else) would already know.

 

[Grizzly Adams]

What I can't understand is why gun owners and 2A advocates don't, can't, or won't realize that we are all in this together and that the antis are just looking for cracks in our resolve and ways to drive wedges between us.

If we as members of the different organizations and the different organizations can't work together how can we expect to defeat our common enemy?

No orgainzation can answer the needs of everyone, so where one fails maybe another one can fill that need. That doesn't make either one better or worse than the other!

We might disagree on which is the best defense weapon, or the best deer rifle or round, but we should all agree that it is our right to own said weapon, rifle or round!

IMO, if we belong to an organization that can not work with other orgainzations that have common interests THEN WE SHOULD NO LONGER SUPPORT THAT ORGANIZATION! And we should let that organization know it!

 

[TexasSkyhawk]

Hmmm. I'm a member of the Order of the Purple Heart as well as the American Legion, and I haven't heard about these things that GOA is supposedly doing.

Doesn't mean it's not happening, but the folks at my VFW post--many of whom are also purple heart wearers--haven't heard either.

Press releases do not impress me. Hell, I can draft and send out a press release after each incident in which a gun is used in a criminal fashion.

What impresses me are the bowel-movement stains in the undergarments of elected officials who discover the NRA has them in the red-dot because of asinine anti-gun legislation they are supporting or considering.

Check out Freedom Restored to see the incredible defenses and strides forward the NRA and its membership have made in the past 25 years.

I used to have no brief with GOA. In fact, both my wife and I used to be members. That changed with all the negativity and attacks against the NRA.

Jeff

 

[antsi]

What I can't understand is why gun owners and 2A advocates don't, can't, or won't realize that we are all in this together and that the antis are just looking for cracks in our resolve and ways to drive wedges between us.

This is something that bears repeating with emphasis. We can hang together, or hang separately, as was once said.

One reason the anti's have made progress over the years and scored some victories, despite the foolishness of their agenda, is that they play smart politics. They have done an amazing job of playing a weak hand, over and over again.

One of the smartest political tactics they use is that they get united and stay united. They don't go trashing their allies in battles of ideological purity.

There are a lot of different opinions on the anti side: there are those that want all civilian gun ownership banned. Some even want to see the police disarmed. These I suppose from the anti perspective are the most ideologically pure.

There are also a lot of less-than-pure anti's. Although I do not believe them, the Bradys consistently pretend that they are not out to take away hunters' deer rifles and skeet shooters' shotguns.

You know one thing you never, ever see... you never see the "purist" anti's trashing the Bradys because their statements come short of a total gun ban.

There are also the "sheep in wolf's clothing" organizations - usually titled "sport shooters and hunters something-or-other" that say they are pro-gun for hunting and games, but seem to spend all their time promoting a new assault weapons ban.

You never see the Bradys trashing the "sport shooters" anti-RKBA organizations. Now, you surely know that sport shooters are next on the Bradys' list, and they regard actual hunters and sports shooters as the third-lowest form of life on the planet (right after black rifle types and CCW'ers). But they are willing to take on gullible hunters and sport shooters as allies for the time being, at least until after they've gotten rid of the pistols and black rifles.

See a pattern here? They form alliances with anyone who can help them - even when their ultimate goals differ, or their constituencies differ. The only ideology they are really pure about is "whatever it takes to score our next victory."

Meanwhile, we are wasting time and effort with infighting.

I never heard an anti trash the AWB, saying it didn't go far enough to ban all kinds of guns. They all recognized it was a step forward for their agenda, and they all supported it.

If they ultimately win this fight and we lose, it's not going to be because their message makes more sense. It's going to be because they play smart politics while we are waging ideological battles for purity.

 

[scout26]

I'm in Illinois, can someone give me the name of the GOA lobbyist down in Springfield ??

 

[OAKVILLE SHOOTER]

Lets see, I'm 36 years old. I have owned guns for the last 25 years or so. I have been a member of the NRA on and off, mostly on, for the past 20 or so years. Until I found this forum, I had never heard of GOA or JFPO, and I still don't know who SAF is or what they stand for. My point to this is how many people that are not "gun people" have ever heard of these groups? Now, how many people have not heard of the NRA? The NRA is by far the most influential and recognizable RKBA organization in this country. They may do things that some of us do not agree with from time to time, but where would civilian gun ownership be today if the NRA did not exist? The NRA does more for RKBA before lunch than most other gun organizations do all year. There is a reason why some gun manufacturers offer discounted NRA membership applications with the purchase of a new gun, or Midway has the NRA round-up. They know that the NRA is the most influential group out there, and therefore, our best chance to get things done.

 

[weisse52]

I am going to agree with Oakville Shooter. I have owned guns for 35+ years and never heard of GOA. I am not going to comment on either group beyond that.

One thing I learned long ago. When all you can do to promote yourself is attack others you have a problem with your product, or leadership, or most likely, BOTH.

I think it's time to re-join the NRA.

 

[RPCVYemen]

You know one thing you never, ever see... you never see the "purist" anti's trashing the Bradys because their statements come short of a total gun ban.

Very good point. The GOA seems to feel as the only way they can make progress is by denigrating the NRA. That's a good way to raise funds, but a bad way to influence policy.

I am more concerned by some of the anti-semitic/racist organizations linked to from the GOA web site under "Political Sites". But we've already had that discussion here.

But a very good point, antsi. The Brady Campaign is about winning/influencing policy, where our side seems to have a lot more people concerned about purity.

Mike

 

[JohnBT]

"The GOA seems to feel as the only way they can make progress is by denigrating the NRA."

The campaign appears to have backfired on them in a huge way. I wonder if they've noticed how many folks they've driven away? (I know, I know, they are getting all of this free publicity as people run screaming from them.)

And why is it that the GOA uses "Veterans Disarmament Act" instead of the true name and number of the bill? Didn't they read the bill or are the facts not good enough for them?

John

 

[obm]

"The GOA seems to feel as the only way they can make progress is by denigrating the NRA."

The campaign appears to have backfired on them in a huge way. I wonder if they've noticed how many folks they've driven away? (I know, I know, they are getting all of this free publicity as people run screaming from them.)

Yup. I'm one of those who didn't renew my GOA membership. Seems as though they need to bash the NRA to gain some semblance of legitimacy. But the only people falling for it are the far radicals with their no compromise mentality.

Sorry folks, but we live in a democracy where compromise is how we progress and sometimes regress, but we are always moving in hopes of moving everyone with divergent views to a better place.

No compromise is a doctrine for tyranny, not democracy.

 

[Outlaws]

I would like to point out this guy just registered today and this is his first post. $20 says this is a troll.

This is the same thing that happens every time I ask the question. All anybody can do is point out the GOA web site and what they say they do.

Everytime you ask the question??????? But, but, but...

This is my first post here (maybe last), but I have been reading this forum for years.

Sure thing buddy. I am sure you asked it on Arfcom or some other website you frequent, but read this one without ever posting. Thats believable. Move along back to Trollville.

This thread is a joke.

 

[Grizzly Adams]

OK, fair enough.

So there are other pro-gun organizations out there other then the NRA.

Lets discuss them in a positive way.

Let everyone know what each is doing to help our cause. When one is working on a cause and the other isn't, bring it to the others attention and ask why. Ask why they aren't cooperating.

Cooperate and we can over come and conquer, divided and we will surely fail and loose what rights we still have!

Thats believable. Move along back to Trollville

Normally I don't call someone out on these threads but I'm going to make an exception here. There have been only 16 posts and most of the discussion has been civil and on topic so IMO you would be better served if you waited until more comments are posted and the OP has a chance to respond. Then if you keep an open mind you might not make to such rash remarks.

 

[chemist308]

I would like to point out this guy just registered today and this is his first post. $20 says this is a troll.

I didn't notice that. Why else come to a nice place like this and make that your first post? :banghead:

 

[ilbob]

One of the things I like about the NRA is that the membership votes on who runs the thing. I know it is not perfect, but I am always a little suspicious of any group that pretends to represent me that does not give me any say in the running of the organization.

 

[Robert Hairless]

chemist308:

I didn't notice that. Why else come to a nice place like this and make that your first post? :banghead:

You and Outlaws might be on to something. I noticed that right after Chemist308 joined The High Road on March 28, 2007, the very first message he posted was about how to stir up things about Pennsylvania gun rights.

What's even more unsettling is that Chemist308 posted his second message just about one hour later and it was on the very same subject. Not a different one. Exactly the same one.

So why did Chemist308 come to a nice place like this and make that issue his first and second posts? Did he join this nice forum because that's what interested him? Why didn't he post a few messages on subjects that did not interest him before he posted on the one gun rights issue that did interest him? Verrrrrry suspicious.

What's even more suspicious is that 19 out of the 31 message threads started by Chemist308 so far are designed to stir up people about gun politics. That's just about two thirds of the threads he started here. His signature also has a link to a gun rights organization! Doesn't that tell you something?

Is Chemist308 just another troll?

May I offer the proposition that we--most of us at least--benefit more by evaluating what people say instead of dismissing those who say what we don't like hear as "trolls." I know what a troll looks like. There's never any doubt. When there is doubt, that's not a troll. It's someone who has said something that the trollsayers find painful and unanswerable.

 

[nelson133]

The NRA is far from perfect and we as members should keep their feet to the fire, but they are the most influential of the pro gun groups and deserve our support. The Second Amendment Foundation is another positive gun rights organization.
When organizations like GOA have some real accomplishments to their credit, I'll start paying attention to them.

 

[DJAteOhAte]

http://www.georgiacarry.org/cms/2007/12/27/gun-owners-of-america-weighs-in-on-hb-915/

 

[Robert Hairless]

DJ, the link you posted seems to be nothing more than a statement by Larry Pratt of Gun Owners of American appreciating Georgia Carry for its work.

I appreciate you too. I want to go on record today as appreciating any work anyone does that benefits me. Please exert your maximum efforts on my behalf and accept my appreciation for it in advance.

I will appreciate it even more if you send me money. We spent more than we had anticipated this holiday season so we can use all the help you give us in our ongoing efforts to appreciate you.

 

[DJAteOhAte]

DJ, the link you posted seems to be nothing more than a statement by Larry Pratt of Gun Owners of American applauding Georgia Carry for its work.

Yep.

That's one good thing GOA has accomplished lately.

 

[Robert Hairless]

So I see. It is surely to be appreciated.

"A lot of what is in our bill is taken from bills the NRA has pushed in other states," said William Woodall, a lobbyist working with GeorgiaCarry. "It's their language."

Section 9 of Georgia's HB 915 seems to be the NRA-sponsored prohibition against the confiscation of guns owned by honest citizens during emergencies such as Hurricane Katrina. That NRA-sponsored measure has already been passed by several other states and thanks to the NRA it was incorporated into the Homeland Security appropriations bill.

But now "it's one good thing GOA has accomplished lately." I appreciate GOA for making the waters recede after the flood and for making the sun rise.