KodiakBeer
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Gun ownership procedure in other states
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highlander 5
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You can have either an FID or LTC but not both. Permits are issued at the discretion of the chief of police. FIDs are shall issue unless you've done something really stupid. Yeah Ma gun laws suck but at least you stand a chance of getting an LTC.
oneounceload
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They were right next to the slot machines...............
NavyLCDR
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AT&F should be a convenience store, not a government agency!
longhair75
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In Nebraska, long guns are cash and carry. To buy a handgun, one needs a driver's license and a State Firearm Purchase Permit. This can be obtained at any County Sheriff Office for $5.00. The permit is issued after they run a NICS check, and is valid for three years.
The City of Omaha, however makes the process much more complicated. The city has a handgun registration law. You show the dealer a state permit card and drivers license. The dealer fills out a card. You take the card to the police department headquarters, where they run yet another check on you, then register your firearm. The police then give you a card to take back to the gun dealer to release the gun to you. This process does not allow you to carry the firearm. In order to do this, your gun must be unloaded and locked up in your trunk.
A valid state Concealed Handgun Permit supercedes all of this nonsense. With a CHP, you show the dealer your purchase permit and your CHP, pay for your gun, load it, conceal it and walk out of the store. It took the State Attorney General three years and a revision of the law to be passed by the legislature to convince the Omaha Mayor, Chief of Police and the City Prosecutor that the State law does in fact negate the city registration regulations.
Amusingly enough, when the revised law took effect, the City Prosecutor went on record with the news media saying that he hoped that all handgun buyers would voluntarily comply with the city registration process.
The City of Omaha, however makes the process much more complicated. The city has a handgun registration law. You show the dealer a state permit card and drivers license. The dealer fills out a card. You take the card to the police department headquarters, where they run yet another check on you, then register your firearm. The police then give you a card to take back to the gun dealer to release the gun to you. This process does not allow you to carry the firearm. In order to do this, your gun must be unloaded and locked up in your trunk.
A valid state Concealed Handgun Permit supercedes all of this nonsense. With a CHP, you show the dealer your purchase permit and your CHP, pay for your gun, load it, conceal it and walk out of the store. It took the State Attorney General three years and a revision of the law to be passed by the legislature to convince the Omaha Mayor, Chief of Police and the City Prosecutor that the State law does in fact negate the city registration regulations.
Amusingly enough, when the revised law took effect, the City Prosecutor went on record with the news media saying that he hoped that all handgun buyers would voluntarily comply with the city registration process.
nalioth
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I'm sorry, but if it's not on or about your person, it can't be considered "concealed carry" in any sense of the phrase. The car isn't going to use any guns in the trunk.cadillacmike said:
NavyLCDR
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nalioth said:
That is exactly what cadillacmike was saying! Read it with your glasses on this time!
cadillacmike said:
Shadow 7D
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Sad thing is, now That I'm no longer in Cali, I mean Commi-Fornia, I can no longer leagally move back, I'd be an instant felon for the mag that my armorer refused to take back, he already had enough M-4 mags floating around off the books and didn't want mine, don't even have the gun to go with them.
First gun I bought in NC, I asked about the paperwork and registering, guy asked where I was from, guessed it before I could tell him, he said, 'son, unless you see something else you want, either go to the range counter and try it out, or you take your gun and go home," and that was it. amazing simple, no going to the police station, filling out appications to purchase, no waits.
see gun, buy gun, go to car, go home.
it was almost too simple to believe for this poor indoctrinated cali boy, thank God I'm wiser now.
First gun I bought in NC, I asked about the paperwork and registering, guy asked where I was from, guessed it before I could tell him, he said, 'son, unless you see something else you want, either go to the range counter and try it out, or you take your gun and go home," and that was it. amazing simple, no going to the police station, filling out appications to purchase, no waits.
see gun, buy gun, go to car, go home.
it was almost too simple to believe for this poor indoctrinated cali boy, thank God I'm wiser now.
cadillacmike
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NavyLT beat me to it, what I originally wrote is correct.
You can also have it a case, glovebox, or any other closed container (not paper or easily torn plastic) such that it is not "immediately accessible". A Plano gunguard case is fine for compliance with FL law. I have a CWP (or whatever its called) but I don't walk around with my weapons - couldn't stand it in afghan, ku or iraq, don't want to do it here, but i CAN if i feel the need. so I usually keep them in my trunk.
Shadow 7, if you have hi-cap mags, (AR15, M14, M9 pistol, M1 carbine, etc, they are all illegal in CA even if they were made 20-60 years ago???
Lastly, another reason NJ is the worst state:
That state has banned the M1 Carbine as being an "assault weapon" oh please! CMP had to stop selling Carbines to residents in NJ.
When, if ever, was an M1 Garand or M1 Carbine used in a violent crime?????
Here's something else i found at the ATFs own site:
"And remember, every time we contact the NICS system, the inquiry generates a transaction number that we must record on the ATF Form 4473 that is filled out for any firearms transaction."
This is pulled right off atf.gov.
What is the deal with these "transaction numbers"?????
You can also have it a case, glovebox, or any other closed container (not paper or easily torn plastic) such that it is not "immediately accessible". A Plano gunguard case is fine for compliance with FL law. I have a CWP (or whatever its called) but I don't walk around with my weapons - couldn't stand it in afghan, ku or iraq, don't want to do it here, but i CAN if i feel the need. so I usually keep them in my trunk.
Shadow 7, if you have hi-cap mags, (AR15, M14, M9 pistol, M1 carbine, etc, they are all illegal in CA even if they were made 20-60 years ago???
Lastly, another reason NJ is the worst state:
That state has banned the M1 Carbine as being an "assault weapon" oh please! CMP had to stop selling Carbines to residents in NJ.
When, if ever, was an M1 Garand or M1 Carbine used in a violent crime?????
Here's something else i found at the ATFs own site:
"And remember, every time we contact the NICS system, the inquiry generates a transaction number that we must record on the ATF Form 4473 that is filled out for any firearms transaction."
This is pulled right off atf.gov.
What is the deal with these "transaction numbers"?????
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nalioth
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There's no such animal as a "hi-cap mag". It's a fiction perpetrated by politics.cadillacmike said:
cadillacmike
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OK, but you didn't answer the question.
rromeo
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If you owned magazines with a capacity larger than 10 prior to January 1, 2000, you can still own them and use them in whatever lawful manner you choose.
You can not give or sell them to anybody else in California, and if you move out of the state, you cannot move back in with them.
If you did not own them in California prior to January 1, 2000, you cannot own them in California, unless you're an LEO.
Of course, some people will pop in with some supposed loopholes, but that just confuses things. The laws specifically mention only selling, giving, importing, lending, etc. No law says you cannot buy or receive a hi cap mag. Yes, you are allowed to find magazines in the desert.
cadillacmike
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I guess I won't be taking any jobs in CA...
Librarian
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I wonder why you say that. 10-day wait applies to any firearm purchase in-state, no matter how many you already own.*
'Stupid wait' - now that I understand. That's consistent.
* Yes, there are a few exceptions.
Keauxbi
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Freedom in the US
I'm so glad that I grew up in Texas and now live in Colorado. We understand that criminals aren't going to jump through hoops to obtain guns and we wouldn't seek to discourage law abiding citizens from protecting themselves. 
Here in the Rocky Mountain State you can walk into a gun store and after you pass a background check
you can take your purchase home THAT DAY!
Also it's legal to OC in some municipalities, but CC requires a permit.
I'm so glad that I grew up in Texas and now live in Colorado. We understand that criminals aren't going to jump through hoops to obtain guns
and we wouldn't seek to discourage law abiding citizens from protecting themselves. Here in the Rocky Mountain State you can walk into a gun store and after you pass a background check
you can take your purchase home THAT DAY! Also it's legal to OC in some municipalities, but CC requires a permit.Tom488
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Hate to do it again, but no, there is no round limit on a magazine for a non-semi-auto firearm. You can have a 50-round magazine on your 870 shotgun, for example. You'd look utterly ridiculous, but it would be legal.
NJ defines a "large capacity ammunition magazine" as "a box, drum, tube or other container which is capable of holding more than 15 rounds of ammunition to be fed continuously and directly therefrom into a semi-automatic firearm."
So, a bolt-action .22LR with a 17-round tubular magazine is perfectly legal.
A local Ace Hardware in Oliver Springs has a firearms counter with handguns, rifles and shotguns that can be purchased by filling out the 4473 and an "insta-check" performed over the phone or internet. Within minutes I can walk out with an M1A or Glock when they get the ok and my bill is rung up. If I want to purchase ammunition I just pay them for it.
Arkansas Paul
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Not to mention most of the highest crime rates. Imagine that.
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