Gunowners depicted in Law and Order

[slow944]

Thats why I've started watching the new show on CBS called " the Unit". Their first show they took down some terrorist on a plane and told all the Government types that if they tried to stop them their friends would come back and kill all of them. My favorite quote. "We shot guns, jump out of airplanes, come home to our familys. It's damn near perfect."

 

[Carl N. Brown]

"realistic" and "television" do not belong in the same sentence

I watch old sci-fi series like Farscape and Firefly which are
sometimes more realistic that L&O CSI SVU ETC.

On Farscape the crew got involved on planet Litigar, where
90% of the population were lawyers and the main economic
activity was litigation. THAT is too close to home.

Let's see, the neonazi with a bunch of guns represnts one
of a thousand people who own bunches of guns. And
Montel Williams shaves his head.

Notice how all the bank robbers on TV wear clothes and shoes?

Gunowners depicted on TV get about as fair treatment as
Jews in Joseph Goebbels propaganda.

 

[rcupka]

CSI: Miami

I liked the one where Kelly (Blonde firearms "expert" that always thinks everything is a 9mm) is identifying a gun that was used in a threat by the sound it makes when cocked. She correctly indentified the Ruger GP100 and then stated it was a rare gun that would easily lead them to the owner.
rcupka

 

[phoglund]

I just watch SVU because of Mariska Hargitay. Guilty pleasure in my book.

 

[baz]

Besides their depiction of the gun owners, I am always amazed at how they always know about guns in the house. "Sir, our files show that you have a Raven 44 Mag - where is it now?"

Almost like they have registered and logged every (legal) gun in the city, eh??

Well, it is NYC, so what do you think?

I just watch SVU because of Mariska Hargitay. Guilty pleasure in my book.

Good enough reason for me.

Are there any crime shows that actually deptict gun issues objectively? I will turn 'em off when they get too far out of line; the rest of the time I watch them for the mindless entertainment they provide. My DVD's of Firefly can entertain me for just so long, before I have to set them aside for a few hours...I mean weeks, before I start them all over again.

 

[PlayboyPenguin]

We do have to remember that the ones that are on the show are generally the ones that are in trouble with the law. I am well aware that there are a whole lot of gun loving wackos out there and I accept that fact and do not get offended when other people realize it also. Just like I know there are a whole lot of flaming, tutu-wearing queens in the world. The media always loves to show them also even though the vast majority of gays would be undecernable from the general population. Same thing with gun owners. Most are normal but they are not as entertaining to the general public.

 

[nvshooter]

Law & Order stupidity

Why not email the people who produce this show and others like it, and tell them they are all wrong about 99.999999% of people who possess a gun. You may not think it will do any good and maybe it won't, but you have said something to the people who put forth the misinformation about guns and gunowners instead of just belly-aching about it on a website devoted to guns and gunowners. To make your point, email them continually...

 

[Thain]

Well, you could always head to a performing arts college, get a degree and some references, and then move to La-L.A. Land, start your own production company, hire your own actors, film your own show, and protray everyone with a gun in every episode as a fine upstandign citizen.

Law & Order is a detective show married to a morality play. CSI is science-fiction mystery theatre. No one every gets worked up about the depictions of gun-owners in Murder, She Wrote, or the ballistic science flubs in Star Trek. Even though they're the same genres, L&O and CSI just try to look and feel like they're "realistic".

Bitching about it is just... odd.

I mean, if they were "realistic" the same two cops wouldn't catch every double homicide in New York, would not find the perp in 27 minutes, and then turn him over to the D.A. who convicts him in another 25 minutes... With an easy to follow chain of events, clear evidence, a dramatic breakdown on the witness stand, and a nice one-liner from Jerry Orbach, too.

TV Drama =/= Real

Look, for all there pimples, CSI and L&O each accoutn for three hours of prime-time a week when there isn't a "reality tv" show on. If for nothing else, I would think we were all greatful for that!

 

[beaucoup ammo]

L&O / Spinoffs

Great formula and hats off to Wolf for making it work. I look through the anti-bias and try to enjoy the shows for the casting, location (love The Big Apple..for 5 days max, then head home!) and the last 5 minutes.

 

[adobewalls]

E-mailing the producers, actors, writers, the networks, etc. is about as effective as writing letters to the editors of a newspaper - all it does is confirm to them that you are watching their show or buying their newspaper. And if you are watching, so what you get twisted off on some detail - they just figure they did their job, so where's the incentive for them to change?

To really be effective follow the money, write the advertisers.

 

[Yuck Mouth]

Does anyone else here get irritated by how Law and Order depicts gunowners? My wife and I were watching Law and Order: Special Victims Unit, and of course, they ran into a lead where the murder weapon was bought at Gun Ho! (what a name), a gun store. And of course, as the detectives illegally (as normal) went downstairs and discovered that the gun store owners were Neo-Nazis. Every episode of Law and Order I see with gun store owners or people who own a lot of guns, they are depicted as maniacal morons, or fascist racists. I'm sorry, but I love guns, and I'm not insane or racist. As you can tell, I'm ranting just a little.

I remember that episode. Like everyone says its only TV but still it gets annoying with some of the stuff they do.

In this particular episode did anyone notice when someone asked how a felon could get such a weapon(an AR-15). Munch said since it was a long gun a background check aren't done!

Say What?!

Lets face it there people out there who watched that episode who will believe that.
You know they have to do SOME research on laws for the show. So why would they put a line like that in there?

 

[jondar]

I quit watching Law and Order soon after it changed from the "old" Jerry Orbach episodes. Those episodes were patterned after real life and guns in them were just guns without any "message" attached. I wish I could find DVD of those episodes. I would watch them all again.

 

[beaucoup ammo]

Right You Are, Jondar

Orbach was declaired a "Living Landmark" by the city of New York and rightly so, IMO.

You can find the entire 3rd season ('92..the year he joined the cast) and up from there on Amazon. I got 'em and the price isn't bad. As mentioned, where Briscoe is concerned, I can look past any short comings or inaccuracies to firearm references and just enjoy the show.

Off topic, I enjoyed the flick "Sin City" with it's array of weapons! Can anyone fill me in on the "Firefly" series? Seems it's high on the list of fellow "Gun Nuts!"

Thanks

 

[HankB]

. . . bought at Gun Ho! (what a name), . . .

Actually, I have a range box set up to hold several pistols, a spotting scope, ammo, etc. by that brand - Gun Ho.

 

[ball3006]

You have to understand.....

that Law & Order is situated in New York. Once this is realized, all the rest falls into place.....................chris3

 

[Carl N. Brown]

Query: Can anyone fill me in on the "Firefly" series?

There was a limited run series, Firefly, from Joss Whedon ("Buffy the
Vampire Slayer") followed by a motion picture, Serenity. Both have
gathered a fan following as deicated as some of the Star Wars,
Star Treck and Farscape fandom.

These long running threads are the ebst sources I have found,
especially for gun buffs:

THR > Social Situations > General Gun Discussions

The Guns of Firefly?

"Serenity"--a gun slinging libertarian western in space (SPOILERS)

 

[beaucoup ammo]

Thanks, Mr. Brown

Will look into it! I find anything well done along these lines very enjoyable.

 

[jondar]

beaucoup ammo,
Thanks for the info on the old episodes of Orbach. I'll check your source and order some. Jon

 

[1911JMB]

"The thing that really drives me crazy is how little they actually get right about guns. Guys getting shot with 45mm pistols, they find a corpse with some holes in it and it's "looks like a .38 special", how they always manage to match fired casings to particular guns, and the ever-growing trend of "ballistics says the bullet was fired from (insert brand here) revolver".

ABTOMAT,

I'm not sure what you mean by 45mm pistol, (it would have about a 1.8inch bore), but anyway, you would be surprised how easy it is for a good firearms examiner to find a slug or shell and determine which type and brand of firearm it came out of, and also how easy it is to match a fired bullet and/or casing up to an exact gun.

 

[Mongo the Mutterer]

Vincent D'Onofrio

The guy on L & O I really detest. If you don't know who he is go here.

IIRC he is the dude who ran crying off the set when Bush was re-elected.

He's the guy whos always cocking his head in different directions. I'd like to see a suspect cock his head back at him as he talks... dweeb...