Helicopter Pig Hunting

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The Kansas F&G guys are doing it within spitting distance of where I live.

Kansas does not want to allow pigs to take over the state like they are doing elsewhere.

But, folks are trapping pigs in other states and importing them to Kansas and illegally turning them loose in public lands around federal lakes.

Rather then allowing legal pig hunting to control them, the F&G guys are hiring professional hunters using helicopters to go out and wipe out entire herds before they totally take over the landscape.

Allowing legal hunting would only encourage more illegal stocking in public lands.
And hunters can't kill them fast enough to make a dent in over-population or population control anyway.

It's probably a good thing to stop an envasion of non-native species to over-run Kansas public hunting & farm land.

rc
 
You cannot control them with hunting alone. Even the dog runners up here will admit that they won't be able to really dent the population in the long term, but that can kill 20pigs in a days work. The pigs on my place are destroying it, I'm gonna try and trap them, but something more serious needs to be done to rid the land of them. While I think the hellicopter shooting isn't really sporting, I think its a good way to put a big dent in pigs, and have heard of farmers doing it before and the costs saved more than pays for the cost of the guys to come out and do it. The last thing that I want to see is the pigs put some of the smaller farmers out of business here due to crop loss.

Kill em all
 
The sport or ethics should have been thought of by those who first turned them out into the wild. The problem now is protecting the farmers livelihood.
Hogs are very destructive and are moving fast from the south.
I think its fair to say that they really have to be eliminated not just controlled due to their lack of predation and competition in the wild.
Traps and sport hunting will not do it and if they don't get ahold of it with aerial shooting they will have to resort to poison.
 
I have always been an ethical hunter, but hunter ethics go out the window with hogs taking over and destroying everything. I also say kill them all.

If the law in your jurisdiction allows for their eradication, do it. If not write, call and email your legislators and get the law changed.

Just my .02,
LeonCarr
 
The thought of having something like hogs to hunt year around sounds appealing until you understand what they can do to a crop and how once wild they are a very spooky animal and not easily put in check.
They have always been hunted in the south and yet are out of control, most states consider them non game and have no restrictions.
 
As was said, this isn't about sport. This is about depredation. I don't care if you call it hunting or not. This is livelihood for the farmers and this is a MUCH more effect solution than letting hunters hunt. They will be motivated to maintain a population anyway and it simply wouldn't get rid of them fast enough.
 
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Well let's see..it's not sporting, not ethical, and most certainly NOT hunting. Why is this even allowed in the hunting forum? Sickening, disgusting, not worthy of being linked to from the High Road hunting forum. Not even close.

And moreover, why are these idiotic farmers PAYING for this, when they could let actual hunters on their land who would pay THEM to take them out? Plenary stupidity normally only seen in Washington DC and New York; places like that.
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Usually I agree with you Tad, but here are a couple places I don't this time:

1) Most hunting is not "sporting." Really...guns vs animal? Bow vs animal? Maybe knife vs animal is close to "sporting," but I darn well wouldn't want to do it with hogs.
2) Ethical...not sure where you get ethical issues from.
3) Not hunting...what would you like to call it? I'm OK with "Thinning the herd," "Selective eradication," "Pest control," and other similar terminology. But hunting works too. Not all that different than "hunting" in a blind, up in a tree, or wherever you go. This is just faster since the goal is to clean up a destructive pest, not "become one with the animal" as you kill it.
4) Why is it in the Hunting forum? Well...because a moderator or admin moved it here. I originally posted it in General Discussion.
5) Certainly worthy of THR. Firearms + Helicopter + Pest Control = THR all the way around. Really not too different than shooting groundhogs or coyotes with high power scopes. Perhaps a bit less kind to the animal using their method, but did you see the number of them there were!? It would take days? months? to try to wipe out that many in a "kinder" way.
6) Why were farmers paying? Because it is either a) pay to have them killed or b) let them destroy the crops. I pick option "a." And again, it would take a lot longer using other methods.

Here's a quote from that guy's YouTube page:
This feral hog eradication program is funded by a group of farmers who are taking progressive action to reduce the devastation done to their crops by these animals. Each and every feral hog is estimated to cause $1400 in crop damage during its lifetime. As you can see this data in combination with the extraordinarily high and ever expanding hog population proves to be a very big problem. Through the support of the farmers of Haskell Co. and the efforts of Nueces Helicopters, LLC. the hog population is on its way to a more controllable state as well as a much higher crop yield for the farmers. For more information see www.nueceshelicopters.com
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Well let's see..it's not sporting, not ethical, and most certainly NOT hunting. Why is this even allowed in the hunting forum? Sickening, disgusting, not worthy of being linked to from the High Road hunting forum. Not even close.

And moreover, why are these idiotic farmers PAYING for this, when they could let actual hunters on their land who would pay THEM to take them out? Plenary stupidity normally only seen in Washington DC and New York; places like that.
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Hey, when your livelihood is at stake because of large numbers of destructive animals...playing "fair" isn't an option. Knocking out more of them from the air than you could in a long night of hunting ain't idiotic, it's pretty smart. And since it's keeping my food prices low and providing some of my fellow pilots with employment in this economic climate, so I'm all for it.

Heck, I'd be cool with mounting miniguns on the helicopters to mop up this problem...
 
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They are on our hunting lease and will absolutely wipe out your green fields like you put a plow in them. Our # 2 rule at camp is " if he has pig stamped on his butt, kill him" we don't care if he weighs 30 or 300 lbs. We have trapped them and still can't really control them as they range over several hundred acres. The deer don't seem to like being around the hogs either.
 
I'd really like to find these locations. I have talked to over 100 land owners in the last two years and all but three will not permit hunting of any animals on their property if the hunters are using handguns. The three that had no problems with handguns were asking for a "fee" of at least $300 per hunter for two-days of permission.
 
Dr. Tad Hussein Winslow said:
Well let's see..it's not sporting, not ethical, and most certainly NOT hunting. Why is this even allowed in the hunting forum? Sickening, disgusting, not worthy of being linked to from the High Road hunting forum. Not even close.

And moreover, why are these idiotic farmers PAYING for this, when they could let actual hunters on their land who would pay THEM to take them out? Plenary stupidity normally only seen in Washington DC and New York; places like that.
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Ethics are only opinions. What one person deems as unethical, another deems as a way of life.

You say the farmers are IDIOTIC? How egotistical is that? You did not take into account that the farmer's LIVELIHOOD is in jeopardy.

The only stupidity seen here is how quick some people are to assume and judge ANYONE.

If you are so ethical Doc, you should keep your ethics in check when you blatantly defame people and call them idiots or stupid. Take the HIGH ROAD and leave the NAME CALLING out.
 
Love my job...

Oklahoma passed legislation to make hunting from helicopters legal within the past year or two as well. Same problems, mostly along the Red River. It is times like these I love being a helicopter pilot! :D
 
This is certainly ethical hunting. It is not sport hunting but could be. Of course I don't think farmers should have to pay for it. We pay to train soldiers already. Why waste time and ammo on range targets when they can get real time action training while providing an essential community service. I would love the opportunity. This tops Nutria hunting in Louisianna from the back of a pickup truck downtown.
 
Old Mac, I bet if they got the Air Cav from Fort Hood out there they wouldn't make it a day before the World Savers would have it shut down.
I have to agree it would be great training and save money on all counts, that alone is enough to ensure it will never happen.
 
This isn't a matter of sport hunting this is survival hunting and in a case of self defense its no holds barred. These farmers are mearly defending themselves against an invading army and ANY means they use to do it is absolutly ok. FRJ
 
In parts of Mississippi, Alabama, and Georgia these things are taking over and seriously impacting the mast crop and agricultural interests. Not to mention they wreck food plots. It is certainly not very sporting but in many areas it is required to keep them in check.
 
I have seen the damage hogs do. And I understand they need controlled. With the exception of a rare few human beings every creature deserves a quick humane death. That is where this is wrong. A lot of the hits shown are bad hits, gut shots that rolled the animals as they went over, but were not kill shots. yes the hogs will die ,but not with a lot of suffering and that is wrong. that video is giving the anti-hunters a rope to hang us with! :banghead:
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