Re: California approved.
<expletives>
Goofy road ticks have more common sense than these CA legislators.
I guess that is why they rig the voting machines in CA.
*whups*
Was I being tacky?
Darn right I was.
Here is the Beretta site that might assist.
https://www.berettausa.com/e2wShopp...9&parentLink=2100000084:3100001364:3100001369
Re: 1911s again.
These are easy to rack the slide on, and easy to shoot. These are one of five gun platforms that fit over 90% of all hands.
I am speaking of a 1911 as JMB designed the thing.
Not a modern marketing discombobulation with duck butts, fuzzy dice, curb feelers, and whatever else they have come up with .
That FLGR does not even make good hinge pin for a gate often times...
Ladies are built different than guys, in case some guys have not noticed.
The Commander and Full Size are the only ones I recommend. I do not do Officers, and I do not do "short stuff" 1911 clones.
Concealing the Commander and Full is "almost" the same. The grip is the same, still since girls are built different than guys, the shorter slide of the Commander is more comfy.
Men have different body shapes too, and this Commander works for guys well.
Heck- I carried a Colt, Steel, Combat Commander forever. I miss those guns...
I come up before The Great Equipment Race. There was no FLGRs back in the day.
I started handguns at age 3, rifles at age 4, shotguns at age 5.
Age 6 I shot the 1911.
Gov't model of 1911, not some gussied up, red lipstick, clone as we have today.
Six years old, and I could rack that slide. I could do the trigger pull too.
It was better for me, to shove that gun against the post, to rack it.
Seriously, with a mag loaded with dummy rounds, make the gun hot, make the gun safe, at age six.
Then with live Army Issue Hardball.
But, I did better with the 200 gr loads that folks reloaded up. I mean the 1911 was designed originally for 200 gr, but the Military wanted 230 grains.
You mess with one something on a gun design, it will affect other things, Domino effect.
Too many ladies, over my lifetime, including those with RA, amputations, and Polio victims could run a 1911.
Re: .22 semi auto
Yep, a viable option. Again all my life there have been reasons why a person could not do a centerfire.
NO Recoil Orders being a big reason.
Detached retina, neck, back surgery, hand wrist surgery, and other reasons.
RA and Osteo too.
Osteo will get so bad, that if someone shuts a door too hard, they could break their back.
My aunt, stepped out of bed, and broke her foot.
Another lady, broke her wrist, shutting the door.
Doctors and Physical Therapist have a good reason to issue NO Recoil Orders.
I wish I still had mine...S&W 422 , with a 4" bbl.
These guns are almost too light.
One will forget they are carrying one. I used this gun a lot with new shooters, from kids to elderly.
Elderly with RA, Osteo, and those with back, and hip problems for example.
One has to keep in mind, carrying the darn gun, and for some, with physical limits, not only is shooting a concern, also how to carry the darn gun.
This S&W semi auto is available in 4" and 6" , the gun is steel and aluminum, and 422 is blue, 622 is steel.
The 4" is again that light, almost too light, still that gun is easy to carry.
Easy to rack, super easy to take down.
Like I said, I miss mine.
This lady, like many others with RA, and other physical limits , really need to shoot a variety of guns, and my experience has been , the Older guns offer more viable options.
Again the older revolvers are just smoother.
Older guns did not have all this lawyer stuff, and gussied up like a pig with lipstick.
Find a bone stock 1911, stick some 185 grainers in it, and folks with RA and other problems can run the gun and shoot it well.
I do not suggest a J frame S&W
I recommend a K frame instead.
I do suggest a D frame Colt, such as Colt Detective Special.
Carries like a J frame, shoots like a K frame.
Load a dedicated .38spl with Speer Plastic Training bullets. These are primer only, re usable plastic bullets.
These are serious training bullets, and are a lot of fun!
Then work up a light target load.
Standard Pressure rounds are all that are needed. 148 gr wad cutters are mild recoil.
I like to personally use a standard pressure 158 gr LSWC for carry, and so do a lot of ladies once they shoot this load.
Guys too...
Just folks around here know whom I chose to assist ....
1911
BHP
K frame
D frame
Beretta Tip ups (I include all tip ups under this category)
These five platforms , will fit over 90% of all hands.
That list is a old one and we knew this before many guns today, come to be.
Long before Glock, for instance, even before Ruger SP101 series...
Some things just "are" and stand the test of time.
Sending best this lady finds what works for her.
Applies to others with RA and Physical Limits and paying attention to this thread.