Help the Disabled, errr, ummm .. (my wife)

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Put a metal hook on the slide of the firearm. You could make one and attach it there yourself or have someone else.
A hook that angles forward. U shaped, parrelel to the slide would work. Even just a short rod sticking forward at a 45 degree angle from the slide would work. It need only stick out from the firearm less than an inch.

You could even remove the rear sight and install a hook there if you don't feel comfortable altering the slide. Use a caliber that works with a relatively light recoil spring to make it even easier.
She can grip the firearm and use that hook to rack the slide on objects. A belt, belt loop, waistband or pocket would usualy work.
It can be done with just the sights of some firearms, but a "hook" would enable someone without much hand strength to do it much easier.


A woman with with weak hands should benefit (on a gun with a much weaker spring) because the hook will allow arm strength or even body weight to be used to move the action. She can hold the handle and simply push forward.
The best hook design is one that hooks easily and pulls away easily after.
It should catch things pushed forward, but not get stuck on anything in reverse.

It won't slip like it can with the sights, it would require less hand strength to steady, and should be quite simple.
That addition will open up your choices in the semi-auto pistol department.

I would still be concerned with her proper manipulation of the firearm. If the issue is merely hand strength that should resolve it.
You do not want an accidental discharge.
 
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Funny, still true.

Bless her heart, this nice elderly lady was going to be restricted even more, and have to use a powered wheel chair, or Amigo .

Honestly, she was restricted to using a Marlin 60 for a home gun. Still she could hit a tennis ball every time , and on a good day a golf ball.

She was out on a private range where I hung out, just visiting, and had brought home made goodies.
She was smart, had kept her sense of humor, and was a lot of help, as in her younger days, had shot skeet.

One of the fella's had a .50 cal.
"Well you folks need to mount that puppy up onto my Amigo when it comes in" she said.

We were cracking up, I mean the gun was bigger than she was.

It will make your butt look big - one of the ladies said to this elderly
lady

"Well, I hope so, I have shrunk and gotten skinny as rail" - she quipped.
She was having a good time, and could give better than she got.

Now she is in her electric wheelchair and she hits reverse as she says, "I hope it has da switch, so I when touch that puppy off, I will getting off the x at the same time."

I was not the only one with tears from laughing. Just picture a little old lady with a .50 cal mounted on Amigo and hitting da switch and going in reverse at the same time.

I had to ask about concealing the darn thing.
"You idiot, nobody is ever going to believe that thing is real, until I have to light someone up".

She had a point...

Folks might be physically limited, still one can always learn a lot from them.
Among many qualities is having a sense of humor and how they deal with physical limits.
 
unfortunatly, my wife is also disabled. she has fibromyalgia horrificly bad, and the doctor is now thinking that it may actually be ms. anyway, she can no longer rack the slide on her taurus 24/7 40 s&w. so i rack it for her, and from there on, she is fine. i have started to download her rounds though, to make it more comfortable for her to shoot. i am sure someday, she will have to give it up all together. i let her shoot my LCP, but she says it kicks worse than her 40. it really doesn't, but for her, it probably feels that way. if i leave home, for any length of time, i load the gun (with full strength s.d.ammo, but i don't tell her that), rack the slide, and give her the gun with the safety on. i would rather have her be able to defend herself / our kids, than come home to a horror movie.
 
I have an old Whitney Wolverine and it is the easiest-to-rack gun I've ever experienced. The slide requires less pull effort than most revolver DA triggers. There's a safety there, too, so one can carry it cocked and locked.
 
As sm pointed out - 1911s and BHPs can be racked with one hand simply by shoving the muzzle against the edge of a table and pushing forward. That is a Very Useful Thing. The 1911 also can be had in 9mm, and also can be set up with short triggers and such that lets it get 'tailored' to the hand that holds it.

An alloy-framed 9mm 5" 1911 is a fine piece; I've had one myself and they can be soft-shooting indeed.
 
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If you are willing to entertain the idea of a .22, the Ruger 22/45 could be an option. Single action, low recoil, 10+1, lightweight due to the polymer frame, etc.

A couple of other options come to mind...

9mm 1911 - I think Kimber makes the Pro Carry in 9mm. I would think it would be easier to rack than a .45 model.

Kahr 9mm - Long but light trigger pull, decent capacity and the recoil wouldn't be bad in one of the all steel guns. Not sure about how hard the slide is to rack though.

CZ 75B - Heavy steel gun, can be kept in SA mode safely, comfortable grip and the slide is not as hard to rack (IMO) as many other service guns.

Just a few ideas.'

W
 
I don't know why you guys are suggesting .357 in any sized gun!!!!!!!! That won't work for anyone with severe RA.
So, .357 is off the table.
In fact, I'm suggesting a spray (mace, pepperspray) or a Taser as alternatives.
Those little tip up barrel Berettas are nice, if she can handle that DA trigger pull.
 
My wife had MS and Sciatic arthritis so I know what you are going through. You could talk to your Rheumatologist and see what he recomends to make shooting easier.
 
It's probably not practical, but what about the "spec ops mag pull", only without the duct tape?

Maybe there's an auto out there with enough meat on the sides to drill, tap & mount a stiff paracord loop from one side to the other that your wife can wrap her finger around to rack the slide back...
 
Don't some of the race gun suppliers make a slide racker for use on a 1911 with mounted optics?

Not really necessary as long as a 1911 has a short recoil rod setup as JMB intended, but another tool in the toolbox.

W
 
SM ... thanks for the research data...

I stated earlier, that "I checked the approved for California list, and, of course, the 86 FS Cheetah is not on it." the 84, 85, and 87 are. I'm going to call Beretta and ask if any of these other numbers have a tip-up. I am also going to check with the ADA, and possibly the State to see why the 86 was not included in the list.

Secondly, I bought (online) new grips, that is Pachmayr Gripper Decelerator Grips w/Finger Grooves. I think that will help on the chief 60 .357. I will also check into getting a wolff spring set installed. Might just beat this thing and never leave town to do it!

Thanks again for the help.
 
My wife had problems racking a semi-auto until someone gave her a great tip. Use your off hand to grip the top of the slide and just shrug your shoulders. No hand strength needed.

As for trigger pull, the Para LDA (Light Double Action) trigger has a very light and smooth DAO trigger pull.
 
After scanning all the previous posts,I didn't see the word "Makarov"...Just a thought,my Maks are all easy to rack,have excellent triggers,and shoot rather lightly...

That said,my CZ82 is absolutely the easiest slide of all my guns except my Witness Match...

I know certain Makarov models are on the "approved" list,I don't know about the CZ82...
 
SA semiauto handguns can be carried "cocked and locked" as long as she doesn't have any trouble sweeping the safety off. Select the caliber that she can comfortably shoot in the gun that she can comfortably carry and you may have the needed combination.

As to trigger jobs, a competent gunsmith may mess things up, but a truly good one can perfect one for her.

A lot of people forget to recommend fit for handguns. Finding a handgun that fits her will provide her better control and comfort in shooting. A gun in a lower caliber that doesn't fit her won't be as comfortable or controllable as one that does fit her in a higher caliber. I have trained people, including older women, who were uncomfortable shooting a CZ75 in 9mm, but were quite happy with a .45 out of a Para P-13 SA because the wider grip and the grip angle of the Para "fit" them. By the same token, I have trained big strapping guys that hated the 1911, but were happy with the CZ. It's all in what fits the individual.
 
How about

a .44 special? Shoot it single action, ballistically it is roughly equivalent to .45 ACP. Or for that mater a revolver in .45 ACP?
Also, is she on Enbrel (etanercept)? An excellent drug for RA.
Good luck.
 
My two cents.

I would seriously look at a commander 1911 with a std GI guide rod. As has been said, you can rack the slide by pushing the nose of the slide against something. The LDA's from Para Ordnance are supposed to be nice but I'd rather stay with the SA action and deal with one issue (slide only) instead of 2 (slide and trigger pull)

.357 LadySmith revolver. For CCW qualifications I'd get and use the "cowboy loads" in .357 and carry .38's in real life.

Ruger SP101 in .357. It's a DA revolver that small but not an ultra-lightweight like the S&W airweights. Again, use the "cowboy loads" for qualifying and change out the springs for Wolf springs. The Ruger forum has the info on this and if you keep quiet no one will know but you. The change is absolutely dead-on reliable and makes quite a difference in the trigger pull.
 
I would seriously look at a commander 1911 with a std GI guide rod. As has been said, you can rack the slide by pushing the nose of the slide against something.
The 5" 1911 can be push-cocked but not the shorter Commander-length units.
 
Thread Suggestion

I have a lot of respect for those with physical limits, I really do.

I would appreciate it, if one of you with RA, and/or other Physical Limits , or a family member would share what they actually use for CCW, and other defensive needs, and firearm use in general.

All any of us can really share are our experiences and observations. I know we have members with RA, and other physical limits. We also have folks find THR through Internet Searches.

So a thread with real life sharing would be appreciated and be a useful thread.
I would propose the thread be added to the Library as well.

Real folks, with real experiences interacting with others with concerns, and questions.
Real folks with limits sharing what they actually use, and sharing the learning curve, and even why something did not work for them.

Again, I have a lot of respect with those with physical limits and I for one would appreciate learning from you. It is I that thanks you for all you have shared with in the past, and I look forward to learning even more.

Respectfully,

Steve
 
I'm not sure many people here have any idea what having moderate or advanced RA means. You have trouble turning a key in a door lock, you can't use a regular can opener at all, some days you can't button a shirt. 1911's, .44 wheel guns??? What are you guys thinking? I've come home from work and found my wife sitting on the porch swing because she couldn't turn the key to open the door in wet cold weather.

The Beretta tip up is what my wife uses, she has pretty advanced RA. I load it, cock and lock. She has a little trouble with the safety some days but it's manageable for now. Firing single action is no problem for her. I'm looking for a Model 84 tip up in .380 to see how she does with that.
 
My wife has RA. She cannot rack a slide in any handgun we've tested. I bought her a S&W Chief 60, and she can fire it fairly well, but only in SA mode. She doesn't have the finger strength to use any handgun as DA. I thought that perhaps a Beretta Tomcat might work, by loading a magazine, the tipping the barrel up, loading one in by hand, then going SA for the first shot, then using the remainder as DA. I just heard that the trigger pull is hard on a Tomcat, even after the first shot.

Any suggestions as to a weapon that she might be able to use, enjoy, and carry for self-defense ... (the carry takes away the idea of reducing the trigger pull, at least in CA.... I was told that no mods to trigger pull on a CCW were allowable.

Any help available?

(I know....get her a 14 ga defender style, and tell her to stay home...)

She has grown up and shot plenty when she was younger. This Rheumatoid Arthritis is kickin her butt lately, and I would like to help her by finding her the right handgun for the hand problem.

Have you looked at a Walther G22? I know a .22lr is not the best option for self defense, but it sure as hell beats an inoperable one. I have shot one and it sure is a blast to shoot. Very accurate, and incredibly low recoil compared to something like 9mm. I have shot a very small pistol in .380 (it may have been a kel tec). It was about the size of a G22, maybe a little smaller. That thing kicked like there was no tomorrow. Because the thing was so darn small, it was very hard to control. Now your wife may be able to grip it better than I did (see: meat blocks), but from the sounds of it her arthritis affects her ability to effectively control recoil.

Good luck, and I wish you and your wife the best.
 
I second the taser suggestion. If she can't operate the gun, she shouldn't be carrying it. Pepper spray, Taser, etc. are all good options that should be able to be used by people with weakened hands.
 
The Beretta 86 is an interesting gun. Unless your county doesn't want you carrying anything that isn't on 'the list', you may be able to get one anyway -- it just won't be a new one, but you could do it. And it can be carried/fired single action exclusively, answering another concern for her hand strength.

If she's happy shooting a steel framed .357 Jframe loaded with .38 Special, you could possibly do it with a dedicated .38 Special steel Jframe. Or do what Steve suggested and find a used Colt D frame (detective special or police positive). My hands are pretty strong, but I have some arthritis in my right wrist. I love shooting my Detective Special, even on days when the wrist isn't happy. I'm usually carrying that or my 642 with a banana grip (makes it a very comfortable shooting gun, for me.) I don't shoot +p through either of them. Standard pressure only.

In a semi-auto, I usually carry and shoot a full sized, steel framed 9mm. I chose the CZ over the Browning because it fits my hand better. Both are nice, though. That's the key, I think. It doesn't matter what is "best" for me, or you, or ... it has to fit someone else's hand and pain level.

I will always keep a .22 around, for those days when nothing else is possible. Beats a harsh word and a hat pin. My kids started shooting mine when they were about five.
 
I admit to feeling disappointed that the Palm Pistol is not being discussed at all. You think such a small gun will be useful.

Also what about the old fashioned Derriengers? You can pack a decent one and swat em a bit from 5 feet or across the table/bed etc.

RA is not the only consideration. Bone loss, and other considerations come into play in our family.
 
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