MCgunner
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Ruger wins, no question.
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jad0110
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That, and your typical SS will last longer than your typical HRR. Still love my little HRR, but one day I hope to own a SS much like Craig's. Very sweet.
apples and oranges.
I own two HRR's and work them to death. They're GREAT for what they are and I've never thought twice about buying them, nor thought twice about strapping them on to hit the woods.
I have nothing but good to say about the RoughRider. That being said, it's no Ruger.
I own two HRR's and work them to death. They're GREAT for what they are and I've never thought twice about buying them, nor thought twice about strapping them on to hit the woods.
I have nothing but good to say about the RoughRider. That being said, it's no Ruger.
I like my Rough Rider. I've only put a couple thousand rounds through it but it shoots point of aim and has a pretty good trigger.
Yes the Ruger is a better gun. A new Ruger also costs almost 3x as much as the Heritage so the quality leap should not be surprising. There are a few videos online where a guy claims over 10,000 rounds through his Rough Rider so they'll last for a while, just not as long as a steel revolver.
The thing is that I bought my RR for $140 OTD brand new. A used Ruger is well over that price. Basically in this price range you have no real options other than guns with sub 2k round lifespans and/or really spotty reliability.
Also, I know this thread is ancient and opinions may or may not have changed. Either way that's my two cents.
Yes the Ruger is a better gun. A new Ruger also costs almost 3x as much as the Heritage so the quality leap should not be surprising. There are a few videos online where a guy claims over 10,000 rounds through his Rough Rider so they'll last for a while, just not as long as a steel revolver.
The thing is that I bought my RR for $140 OTD brand new. A used Ruger is well over that price. Basically in this price range you have no real options other than guns with sub 2k round lifespans and/or really spotty reliability.
Also, I know this thread is ancient and opinions may or may not have changed. Either way that's my two cents.
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CraigC
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As I posted above, I've got three Single Sixes that cost me $200, $225 and $250. Were I destitute and in dire need of a .22 single action, I would still save my money for a used Ruger. I'd be collecting beer cans along the road and mowing yards before I'd waste money on a Heritage.
BobWright
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Not mentioned, but hinted at in all of the above, is pride of ownership. That, too, plays an important part in decision making.
As CraigC so eloquently pointed out, nobody puts a $200 pair of grips on a $200 gun.
For me, I own a Three Screw Single Six, and a Uberti Stallion. Both are very good little .22s, and handsome to boot.
Bob Wright
As CraigC so eloquently pointed out, nobody puts a $200 pair of grips on a $200 gun.
For me, I own a Three Screw Single Six, and a Uberti Stallion. Both are very good little .22s, and handsome to boot.
Bob Wright
But when did you buy them? Even rough Single Sixes tend to run well over $200 so unless you have a time machine I can ride back to the glory days I'll stick with the Rough Rider.
I paid less than $140 for my Rough Rider brand new. I've never seen a Single Six even near that price.
maxxhavoc
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I wanted to like my Rough Rider. I don't really care about fit and finish in a .22 SAA. If it hits what I point it at, I am happy. For me, it was just a range toy, and maybe a gun to introduce folks to shooting.
But it shot WAY off of target. I still played with it for a bit before selling it. I sold it for pretty much what I paid for it, so no hard feelings. I may get another if I can shoot it first.
But it shot WAY off of target. I still played with it for a bit before selling it. I sold it for pretty much what I paid for it, so no hard feelings. I may get another if I can shoot it first.
CraigC
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10-12yrs ago. If you can still buy new ones at just over $400, it shouldn't be a problem at all to find used ones for $300 or less.
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C5rider
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I'm still around, and I STILL like my Rough Rider AND my Single-Six.
Amazing that this topic, after being stagnant for so long, can flash up such a response. Just goes to show that the debate rages on, and folks still feel passionate about their choice in 22s.
If we weren't passionate, there wouldn't be much use for a forum, would there? Glad to see the discussion continue, and glad that we have choices!
Amazing that this topic, after being stagnant for so long, can flash up such a response. Just goes to show that the debate rages on, and folks still feel passionate about their choice in 22s.
If we weren't passionate, there wouldn't be much use for a forum, would there? Glad to see the discussion continue, and glad that we have choices!
todays prices:
at Cabelas:
$549 for the single six convertible
$199 for the HRR
and $299 for the Pietta 1873 (I paid $259 on sale for my convertible 10 shot less than a year ago) Looks like only the .22 is available now (no mag cylinder).
I have had all 3, all 3 shot well, the HRR I had (many years ago) was nothing more than a plinker and spit a little out the side due to excessive cylinder gap but it worked and shot to poa.
I only mention this because if you are looking for a step up from the HRR but not quite the cost of the Ruger, the Pietta in my opinion is a good choice. I have sold off the other two in the past, and just have the Pietta now and I dont feel the need to get anything else in this configuration.
YMMV
Dave
at Cabelas:
$549 for the single six convertible
$199 for the HRR
and $299 for the Pietta 1873 (I paid $259 on sale for my convertible 10 shot less than a year ago) Looks like only the .22 is available now (no mag cylinder).
I have had all 3, all 3 shot well, the HRR I had (many years ago) was nothing more than a plinker and spit a little out the side due to excessive cylinder gap but it worked and shot to poa.
I only mention this because if you are looking for a step up from the HRR but not quite the cost of the Ruger, the Pietta in my opinion is a good choice. I have sold off the other two in the past, and just have the Pietta now and I dont feel the need to get anything else in this configuration.
YMMV
Dave
the Black Spot
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As someone said, your usage will determine what u need.
Plinking cans? Heritage ok for that
Trapping, squirrel hunting, coon hunting, bowfishing(snake protection) go with ruger.
I have a 59 single six that has seen hard use, still tickin. Mine gets hard use during trapping season(muddy, dirty, bloody, dusty, wet etc.) and just keeps goin.
Plinking cans? Heritage ok for that
Trapping, squirrel hunting, coon hunting, bowfishing(snake protection) go with ruger.
I have a 59 single six that has seen hard use, still tickin. Mine gets hard use during trapping season(muddy, dirty, bloody, dusty, wet etc.) and just keeps goin.
Armybrat
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Hey Black Spot - I bought my Single Six new in 1959. It still locks up tight and shoots as good as it ever did after untold thousands of rounds over the past 57 years.
But if I needed a knock around plinker & camp gun, the $140 Heritage wouldn't be a bad choice. Especially if $$ was tight. a lot of owners really like them as a value gun.
But if I needed a knock around plinker & camp gun, the $140 Heritage wouldn't be a bad choice. Especially if $$ was tight. a lot of owners really like them as a value gun.
There are dozens of Heritage RR vs. Ruger SS threads out there.The fact is that they all seem to focus on the wrong things. The RR at its $200 price point is never going to be the equal of Ruger SS.
However, nobody would say that a basic Henry is of the same quality as a Marlin 39 or Winchester 9422. Yet, people clearly love their Henry rifles. What people are really asking when they compare the RR to the SS is "does fill a Single Action Army shaped hole in your gun safe as well as a Henry fills a classic lever action hole?"
If you go by youtube reviews/videos the answer seems to be yes. If you go by forum posts the answer seems to be no.
Of course everybody would love to be able to go out into the woods carrying a 1950s Marlin 39a, A 1960s ruger single six, and an authentic Bob Loveless Skinner. However, it is much more affordable go with a brand new Rough Rider, Henry, and Buck Ranger Skinner. In fact, you could probably get ALL THREE of the second group for the price of any ONE of the first group.
My experience with the rough rider is its a good entry level firearm and is a good value for its price. It is not a gun you are going to pass down to your grandkids. However, it would be a reasonable gun to by for a grandkids birthday. That sort of difference is not going to be acceptable to some people, and to others its not going to be important at all.
One other thing: Having seen a lot of these threads it seems like a lot of people say "you can get a used single six for the same price!" That may have been true before the explosion of gunbroker and internet sales. However, it isn't true now. A used Single Six in good condition is going to fetch 300 dollars if it has the transfer bar and $350-$400 if it doesn't. If you get a $200 single six it probably needs to be reblued, or has damaged grips, or has rust. Fixing such a gun will cost you...$150-200 dollars! Gunbroker appears to have leveled the price of just about everything nationwide. A LGS used to eventually decide that it was worth letting that used single six that had been on the shelf for a year and a half go for $250 but now they can just cross list on gun broker and get the prevailing national rate. If you can find a magic deal on a single six you should jump on it. However, its likely it will take you months or even years to get it. Knowing that, maybe a cheap Heritage RR to tide you over until you get the once in a lifetime price.
However, nobody would say that a basic Henry is of the same quality as a Marlin 39 or Winchester 9422. Yet, people clearly love their Henry rifles. What people are really asking when they compare the RR to the SS is "does fill a Single Action Army shaped hole in your gun safe as well as a Henry fills a classic lever action hole?"
If you go by youtube reviews/videos the answer seems to be yes. If you go by forum posts the answer seems to be no.
Of course everybody would love to be able to go out into the woods carrying a 1950s Marlin 39a, A 1960s ruger single six, and an authentic Bob Loveless Skinner. However, it is much more affordable go with a brand new Rough Rider, Henry, and Buck Ranger Skinner. In fact, you could probably get ALL THREE of the second group for the price of any ONE of the first group.
My experience with the rough rider is its a good entry level firearm and is a good value for its price. It is not a gun you are going to pass down to your grandkids. However, it would be a reasonable gun to by for a grandkids birthday. That sort of difference is not going to be acceptable to some people, and to others its not going to be important at all.
One other thing: Having seen a lot of these threads it seems like a lot of people say "you can get a used single six for the same price!" That may have been true before the explosion of gunbroker and internet sales. However, it isn't true now. A used Single Six in good condition is going to fetch 300 dollars if it has the transfer bar and $350-$400 if it doesn't. If you get a $200 single six it probably needs to be reblued, or has damaged grips, or has rust. Fixing such a gun will cost you...$150-200 dollars! Gunbroker appears to have leveled the price of just about everything nationwide. A LGS used to eventually decide that it was worth letting that used single six that had been on the shelf for a year and a half go for $250 but now they can just cross list on gun broker and get the prevailing national rate. If you can find a magic deal on a single six you should jump on it. However, its likely it will take you months or even years to get it. Knowing that, maybe a cheap Heritage RR to tide you over until you get the once in a lifetime price.
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