I'm a bit concerned. Has the over all quality of Hi Point improved drastically? I was at the gun show today in StPaul MN and one of the bigger booths was selling Hi Points, 9mm and .380 The problem is that they were selling them one after another, faster than they could call in the checks. I'm probably jumping to conclusions, but this huge amount of sales of 9mm and .380 hi points may be part of the ammo shortage problem with these calibers. I mean they were SELLING the crap out of them, over 160 by 11:am and the show started at 8:am. Most of the people I saw buying these $150 guns appeared to be first time buyers with a lot of "basic" questions. I really don't want new buyers to have that sort of "taste" in their mouths, do you? Any thoughts or input?
Hi Point at gun show
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CoRoMo
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I don't think it is any of my business what first time buyers decide to purchase.
I own a Hi-Point, and so does one of my brothers and my dad. They are cheap pistols. Almost worth what they cost.
What "taste" is it you are referring to?
What would you suggest?
I own a Hi-Point, and so does one of my brothers and my dad. They are cheap pistols. Almost worth what they cost.
What "taste" is it you are referring to?
What would you suggest?
CoRoMo
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No, I can't imagine that their quality has improved.
Just because you haven't heard anything good about them doesn't mean you are well informed about them.
I would hate for newbies to be brow-beaten by the opinion of anyone else.
Just because you haven't heard anything good about them doesn't mean you are well informed about them.
I would hate for newbies to be brow-beaten by the opinion of anyone else.
People think Obama will cause shortages/bans on semi-auto rifles. You know those "evil black rifles". So, people start to buy them. Months later, the media starts to report a surge in gun sales as people(again)think Obama will pass an AWB again. So, now people are buying anything 'gun'. Almost like "in before the AWB" mentality. Money is tight these days and people want guns. Many are chosing the Hi-Point brand because they are cheap and the shoot.
The Lone Haranguer
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They attract first time buyers, people who want a gun for protection but are not gun enthusiasts, and people on a budget due to the low price. Most buyers, I suspect, will find them satisfactory for such purposes.
CoRoMo
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No comparison. Hi-Points are cheap and ugly. I bought a C9 so that my kids would have something cheap but reliable to train with as opposed to handing them Daddy's 1911 and they end up scratching it up, or otherwise damaging it somehow.
I've often said that my C9 was almost worth the $80 I paid for it.
My little brother falls into the first time buyer that post #7 describes.
My dad... I don't know why he bought one. He has a wonderful collection of handguns of all calibers, makes, and models. I guess he just wanted a cheap gun like me.
I've often said that my C9 was almost worth the $80 I paid for it.
My little brother falls into the first time buyer that post #7 describes.
My dad... I don't know why he bought one. He has a wonderful collection of handguns of all calibers, makes, and models. I guess he just wanted a cheap gun like me.
modifiedbrowning
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Exactly. I saw two Hi-points being purchased today in the span of 5 minutes.
i own a high pont 9mm and it shoots almost as well as my taurus 917C 9mm ? just a cheap , light weight gun opposed to a more expensive heavier , metal gun ?? it dosent look any uglier than a glock either - althogh next to my taurus , it is the red headed step son ??
The Lone Haranguer
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As I've written many times, I've paid several times as much for handguns that still malfunctioned and broke parts.
CoRoMo
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I'm never going to sell my C9... well... unless it breaks and Hi-Point offers to fix it. The catch being that I have to pay for the shipping and labor. If/when that happens, it's for sale, and I'll buy another C9.
I have never owned a High Point, but I have fired them and found them reliable and accurate, more than can be said about many more expensive guns.
I wonder why the High Point haters always say they have never owned one, never fired one, and sometimes never seen one, but they somehow just know they are no good!
Jim
I wonder why the High Point haters always say they have never owned one, never fired one, and sometimes never seen one, but they somehow just know they are no good!
Jim
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How Is It Just Hi-Point Buyers??
They've reported for months of the huge increase in NCIS checks for firearm purchases, for every brand or model firearm made. That translates to more people buying ammo to use in their new purchases. This isn't some vast conspiracy deal going on, more gun buyers means more ammo demand.
And as to the ugliness or beauty of a gun, if you can put a round in the chamber, pull the trigger, and it goes BANG and ends up pretty much where you intended it to go, what's the big problem? I have a C-9, it does what any gun is supposed to do, it goes BANG, and the round ends up where I wanted to put it. Is it a work of art? Hell no. Is it worth the money I spent on it? Yup! Would use it for a carry weapon? Nope, it's too heavy and the magazine capacity is limited.
What makes me angry is the tone some people use toward the guns, it's as if any person who would actually buy a Hi Point is somehow a lesser person, as if their choice of a firearm makes them suspect somehow. I have some surplus firearms that cost much less than a Hi Point, am I somehow suspect because I happen to own "Commie" guns?
If you don't like them, don't buy them. If you've bought them and don't like them, let me know, I have the url of a couple of forums where there's folks who will be more than happy to buy them off of you. If you've never even shot one, and pass judgment, grow up, and act like an adult. There are makes of guns I doubt I'll ever buy, but I'm not pontificating like I'm an expert on them either.
They've reported for months of the huge increase in NCIS checks for firearm purchases, for every brand or model firearm made. That translates to more people buying ammo to use in their new purchases. This isn't some vast conspiracy deal going on, more gun buyers means more ammo demand.
And as to the ugliness or beauty of a gun, if you can put a round in the chamber, pull the trigger, and it goes BANG and ends up pretty much where you intended it to go, what's the big problem? I have a C-9, it does what any gun is supposed to do, it goes BANG, and the round ends up where I wanted to put it. Is it a work of art? Hell no. Is it worth the money I spent on it? Yup! Would use it for a carry weapon? Nope, it's too heavy and the magazine capacity is limited.
What makes me angry is the tone some people use toward the guns, it's as if any person who would actually buy a Hi Point is somehow a lesser person, as if their choice of a firearm makes them suspect somehow. I have some surplus firearms that cost much less than a Hi Point, am I somehow suspect because I happen to own "Commie" guns?
If you don't like them, don't buy them. If you've bought them and don't like them, let me know, I have the url of a couple of forums where there's folks who will be more than happy to buy them off of you. If you've never even shot one, and pass judgment, grow up, and act like an adult. There are makes of guns I doubt I'll ever buy, but I'm not pontificating like I'm an expert on them either.
jcwit
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The whole point regarding Hi-Point amounts to two words.
BRAGGING RIGHTS
BRAGGING RIGHTS
Like the Lone Haranger said... I've had more expensive guns that still broke. My hi-point carbine was under $200 OTD at gunshow prices. It was one of the better buys as it hasn't broken anywhere or needed anything other than bulk 9mm. It goes bang and is more accurate than I can shoot.
Guns are like cars... you can have looks, reliability, and frugality. Pick 1 or 2, you can't have all 3.
Guns are like cars... you can have looks, reliability, and frugality. Pick 1 or 2, you can't have all 3.
Id love to know just what the OP buys and what he pays for them. I have a feeling that he doesnt pay a fair price for fancy name brand handguns.
Hi Points work, and are reasonably priced. They arent intended tobe safe queens or display pieces. As a result they are purchased to own, shoot, and to make sure a person can discourage a mugger.
Hi Points work, and are reasonably priced. They arent intended tobe safe queens or display pieces. As a result they are purchased to own, shoot, and to make sure a person can discourage a mugger.
I buy what I like. That means a number of things. It includes appearance, reliability, "feel", size, yes brand does play a small role. I find a gun that I like the looks of or have a specific use for, then I do a vast amount of research, reading, asking, reading more, then asking more and different questions, followed by a bit of research about the manufacturer, then comes the actual shopping. I usually look for a reasonably priced, gently used gun, but if I cannot find one in a fair amount of time, and get anxious, then I will not hesitate to throw caution into the wind and just go pay market price for a new gun. I do not buy ANYTHING without putting a lot of thought into it first, however there are a few that I bought on a whim, and while there have yet to be any actual regrets, there are a few that I would probably not have purchased if the research were there. This thread is in fact part of the research process. For the price, if they are reliable(so far so good) I can not see where it would be a mistake to buy a high point. Maybe even a 9mm(my least favorite caliber).
Excepting a drastic change in the way Hi-Point does business, that's not going to happen.
If it breaks, you ship it to them at your expense, they fix it for free, then ship it back to you with extra magazines to cover the shipping cost. Their service is the best.
Ask me how I know.
I bought a broken 995 carbine for $60. It had a cracked stock and a broken firing pin and a missing rear sight. I basically got a brand new gun back from them. They didn't fix the stock, they put a new one on.
a crappy gun is better than no gun.
Yes, a used revolver for $200 would be better than a high point, but there just aren't many of those floating around any more.
For home defense, a lightly used 12 gauge pump, one of those coast to coasts or an older mossberg would be about the price of a highpoint, but as far as handguns, highpoint is the only one at that price point.
It is unfortunate, but that is that.
Yes, a used revolver for $200 would be better than a high point, but there just aren't many of those floating around any more.
For home defense, a lightly used 12 gauge pump, one of those coast to coasts or an older mossberg would be about the price of a highpoint, but as far as handguns, highpoint is the only one at that price point.
It is unfortunate, but that is that.
metallic
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Only real complaint I have with it is that the ergonomics are horrible. I fondled one at a gun show and immediately knew it wasn't for me. But from what I hear, the thing does go bang every time.
Would I prefer that first time gun owners buy something a little higher quality? Sure. But if this gets them hooked on the shooting sports, who am I to complain? We need all the friends we can get right about now. If you haven't noticed, we are on the verge of what Saddam Hussein would call "the mother of all wars." Another gun owner is another gun owner.
Would I prefer that first time gun owners buy something a little higher quality? Sure. But if this gets them hooked on the shooting sports, who am I to complain? We need all the friends we can get right about now. If you haven't noticed, we are on the verge of what Saddam Hussein would call "the mother of all wars." Another gun owner is another gun owner.
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I've not owned a Hi Point and I do think there are better guns out there. However, I've only heard one or two people that have actually owned them have a issue. I've heard of a ton of bashers that have never had one. Most people that have had them I've heard from like them. Sure they are heavy and ugly and you basically can't field strip them to clean them they seem to shoot decently from what I hear, they a super cheap, and they have a life time warranty if you ever have a issue.
For handguns their are rather brands I'd rather have but I wouldn't mind at all having one of their 9mm carbines.
For handguns their are rather brands I'd rather have but I wouldn't mind at all having one of their 9mm carbines.
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