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As a former Hi-Point owner. I wish I still had them. My buddy & I used them for our cpl training. I will admit they are UGLY but they are reliable, accurate, and affordable. If the shortage of 9mm ammo is because the number of gun owners has increased due to the sale of Hi-Points good. More gun owners mean more people to support our cause.
 
You don't?
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No?

I'm not a dealer. I buy guns to fit my needs at the time i buy them and in the future, not how much I might be able to get for it at a later time. I research cost vs effectiveness beforehand
 
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So, having access to one, seeing it shot many times, shooting it some, field stripping it, trying to get it to work, this is all NOT informative just because I am not the owner?

B.S. I have first hand knowledge, hands on knowledge.
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B.S. You have anecdotal knowledge. Knowledge of one gun per your post and no 'data' to back up your claim that all Hi-Points in general are not well made.

I hope you can see the difference between your (or any one eles') limited experiences and actual data. Your experience with one gun does equate to data. It means that you have an opinion, and you are welcome to it. It is no more, or less, valid than any other opinion, but should not be passed off as fact.
 
I've been considering a 995 carbine H-P lately as a HD gun when I'm not home. The GF was able to shoot one at the range a few months ago (another club member let her shoot his) and was much handier with it than any of my handguns. She drilled the target pretty well and really didn't care about the funky looks of it. Her quote driving home was "after I was able to actually hit the target every time with it, the looks took a back seat". She even went on to talk about a possible sceanario where she would hear the break-in, call 911, and take a defensive position in the bedroom with the HP pointed at the door, she said she would feel more confident with pointing the HP at the door than one of my handguns :)eek::banghead:).

Just goes to show, everyone likes what they like.
 
My father-in-law went out and bought his first handgun. It was a Highpoint 9mm. I was pretty well disgusted at first but after several boxes of ammo without a problem, I realized that for a non-shooter it was reliable enough to beat the alternative which was no gun at all.
I doubt he will ever shoot it unless someone breaks in.
 
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I hope you can see the difference between your (or any one eles') limited experiences and actual data. Your experience with one gun does equate to data. It means that you have an opinion, and you are welcome to it. It is no more, or less, valid than any other opinion, but should not be passed off as fact.
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so you want to hear from a guy that owned one and had problems.......well I didnt own one I had several!
I have seen a bunch I have owned 6.
3 jamed every other round throught was burred really bad.
1 broke out right after 2 shots the trigger broke and was limp you could move it back and forth freely.
the mag realeas on one other one would not release the mag any more after 100 rounds.
and the sixth one worked.

I got dog'ed out in the other thread for what I said but I stand by it any way. Hipoint is junk 1 out of six guns worked they were all mine I kept taking them back for returns and kept getting another about to brake gun back did you see this 1 out of 6 worked

I therefore can not recomend one nor will ever own another infact the one I had got turned in on a police gun buy for a $50 walmart card money better spent.
Junk junk and junk you get what you pay for here I hate them and the folks that came up with them.

And for people that dont have money(in relation to the other thread) neither did I at the time so I saved for 8 months to get a quality 1911 see this againI saved for 8 months thats how you afford a gun.......rant off....sorry
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now other hi-point threads asked for actual experience with problems.....well here is my quote from a way older thread. Some one asked for actual data I gave them this and then I was called a liar........well here you have it. I hope you dont go down that road too.
I will also say I had these problems in the companies early early days, I understand that the quality control has gone up but I will still not look at another one just because of the past problems!
oh yeah IBTL!
 
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I believe there are three companies making Hi points.I have a C9,very reliable and quite accurate.I dont take it apart,it can be cleaned by other means.its heavy because it needs weight to handle the power,they are blow backs.and they make very good house guns.I got mine wholesale.$79.I have just read some threads on another site about S&W.sending back several times and not fixed do I say S&W is junk no.I have several,also 1911.I have seen 1911 colts that would not function out of box.you all have been spoild rotten as My first guns were IVERS H&R and such as red head, blue bird,XL, and other seldom seen now.I have a S&W 52,they are prone to jam and are no longer made.
hi point bash is like the dillon people that bash any othe press.:rolleyes::uhoh:
 
I agree with you Teddy but just where did you learn sentence structure and typing?
Makes it hard to read with no space at sentences, or maybe I'm just old.
 
I agree with you Teddy but just where did you learn sentence structure and typing?
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Since when is it "High Road" to personally attack someone in this manner? Did you understand what he said? Then leave it at that, Okay? We can't all be professional editors and novelists, or english majors. Heck 95% of todays high school grads couldn't do that well.
 
Since when is it "High Road" for you to attack me in this manner.
Yes I realize the Public School system is very lacking, its obvious.
Guess I'm in the top 5%, guy.
 
so you want to hear from a guy that owned one and had problems.......well I didnt own one I had several!
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No. I know plenty of people who have Hi-Points. I have Hi-Points. The board is full of people with Hi-Point experiences. People are free to draw their own conclusions from your experiences/opinions. It isn't data.

And I hope you will notice that I didn't call you a liar. I haven't called anyone here a liar. I accept your experiences as true. But they are your experiences. Shouldn't I also accept everyone else's experiences with theirs Hi-Points? If I were a gun buyer, would I give your experiences more weight than other owners who report no problems?

You yourself said they were early guns. Do you know that what's being sold now is the same?

I have an issue with people painting Hi-Points as hand grenades when there seems to be a lot of people who actually shoot Hi-Points that have had no problems with them.
 
Yes I understand you are not calling me a liar, I was just commenting on the normal responce to my experience. The guns sold now might look the same but they are not the same as the early guns. They now use better material which to me makes them a diffrent gun.
I have an issue with people painting Hi-Points as hand grenades when there seems to be a lot of people who actually shoot Hi-Points that have had no problems with them.
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first impressions are everything so the saying goes. Yugos are good cars but due to "cheap" materials they got a bad rap and were frowned upon. Any way the guns probably do work just fine now with as many problems as any other bulk manufacturer like s&w. But keep in ming many folks buy guns and they either dont shoot much or at all. So many many of the early guns are still out there waiting to be sold and waiting to break.
 
As the folks who own Hi-Points have already said: They go bang reliably. Like many inexpensive firearms, they usually get badmouthed by people who have never owned one.
Nothing wrong with someone buying what they can afford. We should be happy that there are inexpensive guns out there which are safe, reliable, and have a good company standing behind them!
While I own many more expensive and lovelier hand guns, my C9 has never failed to fire and has digested anything I put in the magazine. Cheap thrills.
Interesting that Taurus and Beretta were mentioned. While I own a few Beretta and Taurus handguns (and love them), I've heard far more horror stories on their quality and service lack than of Hi-Point's.
 
A Hi-Point is better than nothing for SD/HD. Food for thought, if a weapon is used in SD/HD situation it will most likely be confiscated. I'd rather loose a Hi-Point than a Kimber.
 
Think about it. Someone who doesn't know a Smith & Wesson from a Smithfield ham is only going to have one concern - price. They're going to think to themselves "Why should I pay $500 for a 9mm when I can get one for $150? They're both shoot bullets."

I'm sure plenty of people on this board have done the same thing; whether it was a cheap stereo or pair of boots - you didn't know better, so you ended up with crap.
 
I'm not sure how it would cost you $40 to ship a gun back to the manufactor. USPS allows individuals to ship guns back, a hi-point handgun will fit in a $4.80 flat rate priority box (the smallest box). I guess a carbine would need a bigger box and maybe cost $12 or so. Most states allow you to recieve your handgun back direct to your door from the manufactor.

I have multiple Hi-points, pistols in 380 and 9mm and carbines in 9mm. Also have many much more expensive guns. Non of hi-points have ever had issues. Promags do not work well in the carbines, but that is a problem with a aftermarket mag design, not the hi-point. I like the little 380 and 9mm pistols, they are compact the grip is about the perfect size. They are top heavy but its nice at range (b/c of less recoil). I bought the 380s earlier this year when Buds had them for $99. I have not been able to use them much b/c 380 ammo is so difficult to find. My 9mms get a lot action. The 40 and 45 are really ugly.... I have not be able to talk myself in picking up one yet. The Carbines and magazines made by hipoint have a "ugly" blueing job as other mentioned. I wish someone made hi capacity mags for the carbine that were reliable. As far as function and warrantee, top knotch.
 
Thanx for all the input guys. I have decided not to buy one. I am convinced that they work, but as long as I can still afford to feed my addiction with the "good stuff", I think I will. Maybe when I'm down and in the dumps and broke.........
 
But keep in ming many folks buy guns and they either dont shoot much or at all. So many many of the early guns are still out there waiting to be sold and waiting to break.
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Plays theme from Jaws movie.

I believe we were discussing new guns bought by newbies at the dealer. I've not sure I've seen a Hi-Point for sale that wasn't so close to the original price that I would buy it. Resale value is probably a whole other argument.
 
I believe we were discussing new guns bought by newbies at the dealer.
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Funny you should mention that, Ron Hess in Norfolk va has one from way back in the day, His price on it $299..........if he has done it I am sure Some one has one new on the shelf from back then too. BTW his prices are set to avoid the folks that dont have money........I will leave that reasoning up in the air, but remember this is in Norfolk VA. Either way for $160 new I would rather draw that cash and save another $100 up and buy a good used eaa, police issue smith, or anything else, a new gun with a warentee is ok I guess and I can understand the reasoning that"I cant save money up" but so far the only reason I can see for buying one and this is a great point!
Food for thought, if a weapon is used in SD/HD situation it will most likely be confiscated. I'd rather loose a Hi-Point than a Kimber.
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Also as far as I know no one makes a good holster for a hi point do they?
 
Funny you should mention that, Ron Hess in Norfolk va has one from way back in the day, His price on it $299
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A funny argument. NOS Hi-Points for $300.00. And your point is? I thought the problem was that Hi-Points were too cheap and too shabbily made. Perhaps he believes it is a collectible.

Yes. Every one who buys a $260 used gun will always get more for their money than a NIB $160 Hi-Point. Right.
 
I thought the problem was that Hi-Points were too cheap and too shabbily made.
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you are right they were. at one point in time. My point is that because they were at one time a poor weapon that scourage will for ever follow them.
 
they were
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As in used to be, but not now? So now they're OK? Like many people have already said?

that scourage will for ever follow them
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Pity poor Ruger then. That LCP thing will have them bankrupt. Please, Ruger fans, don't attack me.
 
chuckusaret: "Food for thought, if a weapon is used in SD/HD situation it will most likely be confiscated. I'd rather loose a Hi-Point than a Kimber."

That depends on the situation. Around here even if it gets taken into evidence, you get it back -- assuming you aren't convicted of a felony or a misdemeanor crime of domestic correction. Often the gun isn't taken at all. I admit that isn't exactly a universal thing, but I'm continually surprised that more people don't get to know their police and their policies/procedures in advance of a SD shoot. How can you stand not knowing what might happen? It must agonize the potential defender.
 
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