High brass or low ?

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Hi all. New to the forum and have a question. I am going Pheasant hunting on Fri. on a farm "pen raised birds" and will have a guide with a flushing dog. I did a search on hunting farm raised birds and it seems like everybody agrees on No. 6 shot. My question is should I use high or low brass ?
 
You should use 1 1/4 oz of #5 shot.
High or low brass doesn't matter much, as brass height is mostly cosmetic.
But most #5's will be found only in high brass field loads.

That's my opinion and I'm sticking too it!

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People experienced with farm-raised birds say that #8 will even work, though it wouldn't be my choice. Talked to a bunch of people at Saturday's NAVHDA meeting.

They're not tough like their wild cousins.

#6 should be fine. Shot placement is more important. Standard 1 1/8 oz. loads should be fine, too. Easier to find on short notice, generally.

Don't shoot anyone, or get shot. No bird is worth that. #6 is nasty, even at 75+ yards. Hospital time if it hits anywhere important. Also from experience (not mine, but a friend's). And even a shot from a .410 will require a helicopter evac if it's in the testicles. This happened at a farm-raised-pheasant-with-dogs fundraiser shoot a couple years ago. He reallly took one for the club.

Scary stuff. Be careful out there.
 
Though I shoot 7 1/2's more often than not I'd also recommend the #6's.

I agree with rcmodel's comment about high brass being mostly cosmetic.
 
I have never hunted pen raised birds, however here in Nebraska I have great success with 1 1/4 ounces of 5's or 6's on wild birds. I would surmise the same load would be just fine for the "domesticated" variety.
 
While a lot of people feel that 'preserve' birds are push overs, I am of a different mind.....my dogs have brought me back a lot of cripples that had the breast meat peppered with #7.5 shot......I'll never use it on a pheasant, wild or pen raised.

One thing a lot of people forget about is that pen raised birds eat WELL....they tend to have a lot of fat on them when compared to wild birds, and that fat stops bird shot!
Add to that the fact that the preserve birds may have better feathering on them due to better nutrition, and again, you have a shot stopper.

The 'brass' nowadays is mostly cosmetic.....back in the 'olden days' the higher brass was needed for support; nowadays it is basically just a hold over from that time.

What I would recommend is that you look at the dram equivelents (this is what the old black powder charge would have been....it roughly will give you an idea of the speed of the load when combined with the pellet wieght). I would recommend that you use 3 3/4 dram eq, 1 1/4 oz of #5 shot (first choice) or #6 shot (second choice). This load will kill birds that might get out there a bit, and that is a possibility with a flushing dog, as opposed to a pointer.

Good luck, have fun, and be safe............oh, and post some pics after the hunt!:)
 
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I don't disagree with you. And I will admit that I don't shop/shoot the power loads much. I just think that high brass used to be used more for power loads than it is today. I think that powders have evolved alot too.
 
I grew up hunting every bird there was available to shoot in north central Kansas. I used #6 on everything from doves to ducks. All the pheasant I sot were wild and the #6 work just fine on them.
 
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