Holster for bear country

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Not looking to derail this thread on red dots, but if you have a red dot and the glass gets covered with mud, you simply have to cant the gun 45 degrees counter clockwise (RH shooter) and aim down the right sure edge of the top of the slide.

Yes, kinda like a “hood gangsta”, but you are using the plane of the slide for an aiming point. Yes, it works out to 20’yards pretty well, especially with a Glock due to its blocky slide and defined corner.

Gonna try that
 
I would seriously look at safariland or similar drop leg holsters. It literally puts the gun at your fingertips and is blazing fast for drawing. There are other brands out there but I think you can easily find one that will fit your pistol since it is very similar to what a lot of tactical units use.
 
Not looking to derail this thread on red dots, but if you have a red dot and the glass gets covered with mud, you simply have to cant the gun 45 degrees counter clockwise (RH shooter) and aim down the right sure edge of the top of the slide.

Yes, kinda like a “hood gangsta”, but you are using the plane of the slide for an aiming point. Yes, it works out to 20’yards pretty well, especially with a Glock due to its blocky slide and defined corner.
A half homie is taught for pistol point shooting by some and looking down over the edge of the slide to roughly sight it is called meat on the metal. Half homie is canting your hand and gun about 30 degrees that is same as if you were pointing your finger at something.
 
Diamond Custom is my rig of choice. But, when approaching heavy cover the gun is in my hand! Owning mostly Ruger Single actions all my calibres and barrel lengths fit. An added bonus.
 
OP is in Michigan. No Grizzlies present. No worries about bears.

Bears are the least of my concerns as we have plenty of wolves, cougars, and white trash.

Plenty of black bear attacks and their frequency is only increasing.

Grizzly attack to scare you off a food supply or in defense of cubs.

Black bear attacks are largely predatory, as they want to consume your carcass, dead or alive. There is a gruesome story of a female geolhoist in AK who survived a black bear attack but the bear ate parts of both arms as to render them useless. She was unarmed (no pun intended) and never fought the bear. That would truly suck.

https://www.ammoland.com/2022/06/two-geologists-dangerous-bears-one-gun/

https://www.ammoland.com/2022/04/up...t-bears-123-cases-98-effective/#axzz7ZMNwBF1U
 
Plenty of black bear attacks and their frequency is only increasing.

Grizzly attack to scare you off a food supply or in defense of cubs.

Black bear attacks are largely predatory, as they want to consume your carcass, dead or alive. There is a gruesome story of a female geolhoist in AK who survived a black bear attack but the bear ate parts of both arms as to render them useless. She was unarmed (no pun intended) and never fought the bear. That would truly suck.

https://www.ammoland.com/2022/06/two-geologists-dangerous-bears-one-gun/

https://www.ammoland.com/2022/04/up...t-bears-123-cases-98-effective/#axzz7ZMNwBF1U

Hmm... Being in Texas, tell me how many bear encounters; Grizzly or Black, that you have had.

Having grown up in the Idaho woods, I have had dozens of encounters with black bears. The OP is in Michigan, which has experienced how many black bear attacks?

https://rollingfox.com/map-fatal-bear-attacks-state-north-america

Oh, zero...

I'm pretty sure you really don't have any idea about how black bear behave in real life in the majority of their habitats. When I go into true wilderness areas a mere 25 miles from my house, the least of my worries are black bears. The number one killer of humans in the woods is the weather.

Dress appropriately and be prepared. Worrying about black bears is ridiculous.
 
As best I've been able to tell the usual issue with aggressive black bears are those that have too much experience with humans, who realize we have/are food and aren't really that scary. Parks, hiking trails, heavy tourist areas where they can get lots of harmless experience.

Back woods? Yeah those bears typically are far more afraid of us than we should be of them. Of course there's the ol, mom and cubs thing, but they are pretty good at running away too.

Just have some dogs with you all the time and you'll be golden, they seem to hate dogs and dog smell. Plus its just always a good thing to have a big dog or two with you I've found. Maybe I'm biased because I love dogs.
 
From what I have read and heard about the bears in the Smokies and parks in NC & VA. They are becoming very food conditioned.
There fear of humans is less than there desire for easy food/garbage.
 
Hmm... Being in Texas, tell me how many bear encounters; Grizzly or Black, that you have had.

Having grown up in the Idaho woods, I have had dozens of encounters with black bears. The OP is in Michigan, which has experienced how many black bear attacks?

https://rollingfox.com/map-fatal-bear-attacks-state-north-america

Oh, zero...

I'm pretty sure you really don't have any idea about how black bear behave in real life in the majority of their habitats. When I go into true wilderness areas a mere 25 miles from my house, the least of my worries are black bears. The number one killer of humans in the woods is the weather.

Dress appropriately and be prepared. Worrying about black bears is ridiculous.

Born and raised in one place, I guess I see why you have that perspective and presumption.

I was born and raised in central NH, and one of my best friends uncle used to take us out about 35 miles away when he ran bears with dogs. That was interesting. I lived 8 years in the Alaska
Interior and almost 8 in Central Montana. Ran across bears in both places several times…mostly blacks and never an issue. I did have some
sketchy run ins with moose in AK, and also had a lion that refused to move off a trail in MT…but never had a bear situation that became any issue.

But one doesn’t need to live in a place to understand the reality of that place if you follow valid sources of information. I follow Dean Weingarten and his interesting articles. He is very thorough in researching and writing on dangerous predators in North America. I posted a couple stories, but he has many accounts on Ammoland.com

Black bears are NOT benign. They are certainly skittish in areas where they are heavily hunted, but in locations of low hunting press and encroachment by humans, they can be aggressive.
 
Hmm... Being in Texas, tell me how many bear encounters; Grizzly or Black, that you have had.

Having grown up in the Idaho woods, I have had dozens of encounters with black bears. The OP is in Michigan, which has experienced how many black bear attacks?

https://rollingfox.com/map-fatal-bear-attacks-state-north-america

Oh, zero...

I'm pretty sure you really don't have any idea about how black bear behave in real life in the majority of their habitats. When I go into true wilderness areas a mere 25 miles from my house, the least of my worries are black bears. The number one killer of humans in the woods is the weather.

Dress appropriately and be prepared. Worrying about black bears is ridiculous.
I hear you. Black Bear scare me more than Grizzly. Grizzly will let you know that your not wanted. Black bears will pretend to be shy, then stalk you and eat your little dog
 
Regardless of which holster one takes into Grizz country , just make sure YOU can get your weapon in your HAND QUICKLY .

Here's a Tip : Bear Spray for Sure but piss on trying to actually use it ,keep it on your self or in your back pack . Rule of thumb " IF " a Grizzly comes across You or vice a versa with in 25 Yd. ; ONE in the Ground STAND YOUR GROUND , IF She decides to charge STEADY to the Shoulder and let the rounds fly . Afterwords spray the Bear spray . Game Wardens like to see You did all you could do !.

People who live in Grizzly country will tell you MOST of time a Big Yell arm wave and one in the ground deters 95% of attacks .

You're always better off with Company hiking rather than alone , Grizzly's AREN'T stupid their cunning and can be ultra quick to Back track and ambush . I was flat stunned at the stealth and Quickness of a Big old Male in Alaska displayed , while the Guide and I were crossing a thicket
so as to get up another hill side while hunting Dahl Ram .

They have TWO interest EATING & MATING ,DON'T interfere in either activity is MY best advice :)
 
Didn’t know this thread was still going. I took a motorcycle trip to Shoshone National Forest. The holster wasn’t for Michigan camping.
 
For me, AlienGear MOLLE Shape Shift mounted on the waist belt of my pack. If you take the pack off, you can snap the shell onto another clip on your belt.
 

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