How about an aluminum framed M&P?

[jar]

I find it interesting how what's old keeps coming back to become new. Since the early days of cartridge handguns both hammer and striker fired versions existed, often within the same company. Most of the very small pistols but not all tended to be striker fired and most of the larger pistols tended to be hammer fired, but not all. Gradually the striker fired pistols seemed to fade from view but there were still quite a few being made even in post WWII.

The Gun Control Act of 1968 pretty much stopped the availability of the striker fired pistols in the US but they were still being made and sold most everywhere else.

Currently my oldest striker fired pistols, one a larger model and the other a tiny vest pocket, were made in 1913 and both still function and still get taken out to go WalkAbout. One of them was also the first High Capacity pistol holding 10 + 1 rounds when most others maxed out at 8 + 1.

 

[Spats McGee]

Im mildly interested.....but probably not $900 interested.

This, right here, is where I am, too.

 

[herrwalther]

Luke warm for me. I have never been interested in the M&P line. Horrendous trigger in my view. The trigger just begs to be replaced with an Apex or anything else. Might be interested in this if they expand into 10mm.

 

[Autodidactic]

Luke warm for me. I have never been interested in the M&P line. Horrendous trigger in my view. The trigger just begs to be replaced with an Apex or anything else. Might be interested in this if they expand into 10mm.

That all depends. Have you tried the new M&P Plus trigger? It’s a huge improvement

 

[herrwalther]

That all depends. Have you tried the new M&P Plus trigger? It’s a huge improvement

I have not. It is on my to do list. I have not even seen an M&P plus locally. Like P365s, they get scarfed up not long after coming in the door. M&Ps were second most common to Glocks in LEO holsters in my area. So I tried plenty of M&P duty triggers.

 

[Autodidactic]

I have not. It is on my to do list. I have not even seen an M&P plus locally. Like P365s, they get scarfed up not long after coming in the door. M&Ps were second most common to Glocks in LEO holsters in my area. So I tried plenty of M&P duty triggers.

The reason I bring it up is the Plus has a great trigger. I don’t know if they plan to put something similar in the regular M&Ps, but if they did it would totally change the M&P trigger rating

 

[Spats McGee]

I have not. It is on my to do list.....

The new Plus trigger really is a big improvement over earlier ones.

 

[jmr40]

I don't understand the appeal of aluminum, I might get into a steel framed M&P. I can appreciate the older classic steel framed pistols, but I can't think of an aluminum gun that I find attractive. Since aluminum isn't as strong as steel they tend to be thicker and chunky.

The goal is to reduce weight and cost compared to steel and plastic does everything aluminum does and does it better. It is even lighter and cheaper to make. Plus, plastic guns have proven to be more durable than aluminum. Maybe even more durable than steel.

And yes, the newer M&P triggers are a significant improvement. The 1st gen M&P trigger is among the worst.

 

[Autodidactic]

I don't understand the appeal of aluminum, I might get into a steel framed M&P. I can appreciate the older classic steel framed pistols, but I can't think of an aluminum gun that I find attractive. Since aluminum isn't as strong as steel they tend to be thicker and chunky.

The goal is to reduce weight and cost compared to steel and plastic does everything aluminum does and does it better. It is even lighter and cheaper to make. Plus, plastic guns have proven to be more durable than aluminum. Maybe even more durable than steel.

And yes, the newer M&P triggers are a significant improvement. The 1st gen M&P trigger is among the worst.

What we are saying is Shield Plus are basically 3.0 triggers, improvements on both the 1st and second generation.

 

[tercel89]

Been there, done that, got the pistol.

The interesting thing for me is that the M&P series simply duplicates the ergonomics from the original compact factory Wonder Nine from the 1980s. Plus the 469 weighs in at 26.56 ounces.

Here is a Shield 2.0 on top of my 469 with the slide tops aligned. Notice the trigger alignments and grip angles. Even the grip height is near identical if I use the extended Shield magazine. But the 469 is 15 rounds.

The M&P compact is virtually identical to the dimensions and ergonomics of the 469, even closer than the Shield.

And my 469 fits in my Shield 45 kydex holster.

Ueah , but that's a hammer gun and not a striker.

 

[tercel89]

There is hardly any all metal striker-fired pistols out there that I know of. I wonder how this one will last long-term wise.

 

[jar]

Ueah , but that's a hammer gun and not a striker.

Thank God!

But I have lots of all steel striker fired pistols.

 

[tercel89]

Thank God!

But I have lots of all steel striker fired pistols.

What are they ? I can't seem to think of any except the all metal Walther Q4

 

[kidneyboy]

Maybe the firearm industry is trying to get ahead of the reductions in petroleum oil production.

 

[jar]

LOL

My two oldest striker fired all steel pistols were made in 1913 and still get to go WalkAbout pretty often. See my message above. One more modern example I quite often use as my primary carry was made by the Italian firm Bernardelli and is an all steel single action striker fired pistol.

For most of the cartridge chambered pistol era striker and hammer both competed for the market and in about equal numbers. They were found both in the civilian as well as police/military sectors.

 

[NIGHTLORD40K]

What are they ? I can't seem to think of any except the all metal Walther Q4

Out of production, but the H&K P7 was an all-steel striker gun. Sig is making an aluminum framed variant of the P320 now.

 

[jar]

Out of production, but the H&K P7 was an all-steel striker gun. Sig is making an aluminum framed variant of the P320 now.

Interestingly many if not most US made rifles seem to have been and still are striker fired all along with the exception of the lever actions.

 

[kcofohio]

Maybe the firearm industry is trying to get ahead of the reductions in petroleum oil production.

I get amazed at how many people don't realize that point on many everyday items. Ignorance is bliss, until it's not.

 

[unclenunzie]

All they are trying to get ahead of is next quarter's revenue and earnings expectations

 

[DeepSouth]

It’s the first S&W made in the last 25-30 years I’d even consider buying, but their are to many other guns I want in that price range that I would definitely buy first.

Maybe their is a trend of metal guns coming back, one can dream.

 

[citizenconn]

I might be interested if they had put a nicer grip on it than those old cheese graters. To me part of the elegance with other metal frame guns is the ability to customize it with nice grips.

 

[sevt_chevelle]

^^^
I would agree. Sig got that right with the axg grip module.
This pistol does interest me but in 5in.
Would love to see this on the 45acp model.

 

[Spats McGee]

I might be interested if they had put a nicer grip on it than those old cheese graters. To me part of the elegance with other metal frame guns is the ability to customize it with nice grips.

S&W's website says it's compatible with 2.0 palmswells. In theory, then, you could sand down the palmswells to get rid of the cheese grater effect. You could even buy a used set of 2.0 PSs if you wanted to keep all of the original Metal gear intact.

 

[halfmoonclip]

Probably not into changing platforms beyond what I've got in self feeders, best summed up as some modern, big capacity strikers, and some single stack older designs.
This alone will keep me from buying something new, with the need for extra magazines and accoutrements.
But there is an appeal to a pistol made from more traditional materials.
Moon

 

[Steve762us]

Interestingly many if not most US made rifles seem to have been and still are striker fired all along with the exception of the lever actions.

...and the ARs.