How about an aluminum framed M&P?

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What are they ? I can't seem to think of any except the all metal Walther Q4

Stiker fired handguns have been around since 1893 and that's all you can think of? :thumbdown:

I am backwards on my two current EDC guns. My hammer gun is poly and my striker is aluminum.
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Put a hammer on it, I'd have interest. Otherwise, striker fired is striker fired, regardless of frame material. I suppress all the things, and hammers make for quieter, more reliable hosts.
 
Jess for fun I got out my digital scale to see how the weights compared. I tried to keep it as equal as possible, for example with the two 9mm Smiths I weighed the Shield with both magazines and one in the chamber to match the 15 + 1 of my 469. I found it all pretty interesting. I also included my Shield 45.
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So it turned out that not only are the dimensions and ergonomics almost identical, the aluminum alloy framed 469 is less than four ounces heavier. And far far softer shooting.
 
.... I suppress all the things, and hammers make for quieter, more reliable hosts.
That doesn't make sense... hammer fired guns are more quiet than striker when fitted with a suppressor? Even if you could completely remove the sound of the gun shot itself, I've found hammer fired actions to be mechanically louder than striker in general... that hammer smacking the firing pin gives a good ping, verses just the spring loaded firing pin hitting a primer.
 
That doesn't make sense... hammer fired guns are more quiet than striker when fitted with a suppressor? Even if you could completely remove the sound of the gun shot itself, I've found hammer fired actions to be mechanically louder than striker in general... that hammer smacking the firing pin gives a good ping, verses just the spring loaded firing pin hitting a primer.

It's the lock time that makes them quieter hosts. Hammer fired guns have more resistance unlocking, and also less resistance returning to battery (no striker to reset). That means lower port noise, and greater reliability returning to battery with the extra mass of the reciprocating assembly. Lots of striker fired guns struggle with the latter, especially running heavier (>10 ounce) cans.

The mechanical noises of either action type are below the SPL of the shot with a centerfire pistol. You might hear them, but they will not be the loudest thing.

This is not speculative. I manufacture & repair silencers for a living using 3, 4 and 5 axis CNC machines as well as manuals, I own precision impulse sound metering equipment, and have a 100 yard range behind the shop where we test. 1911s, 3rd gen smiths, Beretta 92, CZ-75 (and copies), etc. are quieter at ear than Glocks, M&Ps, XDs, RPs and the like.
 
It's the lock time that makes them quieter hosts. Hammer fired guns have more resistance unlocking, and also less resistance returning to battery (no striker to reset). That means lower port noise, and greater reliability returning to battery with the extra mass of the reciprocating assembly. Lots of striker fired guns struggle with the latter, especially running heavier (>10 ounce) cans.

The mechanical noises of either action type are below the SPL of the shot with a centerfire pistol. You might hear them, but they will not be the loudest thing.

This is not speculative. I manufacture & repair silencers for a living using 3, 4 and 5 axis CNC machines as well as manuals, I own precision impulse sound metering equipment, and have a 100 yard range behind the shop where we test. 1911s, 3rd gen smiths, Beretta 92, CZ-75 (and copies), etc. are quieter at ear than Glocks, M&Ps, XDs, RPs and the like.
Interesting, thank you for the additional info!
 
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