How do you carry your CZ75?

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I'm curios as to whether it is more common to carry it decocked, or to carry it cocked and locked? And for anyone who carries it with the hammer down, how do you decock it? To me it seems dangerous to always have to lower the hammer w/ your fingers. I have never carried mine, so i was curious as to what the regular practice was.
 
I don't usually carry my 75, but now that I have a MS VM-2 I'm carrying it a little more often. I carefully decock and carry with the hammer down so I don't have to worry about whether the safety is on or not. I have fairly large hands and don't have any problems with the trigger reach in DA.

For the best directions on manually decocking a 75, go to the CZ FAQ at www.czforum.com There is a good post explaining the best way to do it there.

Trebor
 
Hammer down, round in the chute.

The CZ manual includes instructions for this condition of carry...

Diesle
 
hammer down, round in the chamber.

That safety - it seems to sweep off way too easily for my taste.
 
If it's a safety model - and all the ones I have are - then I carry it cocked & locked. If it is a decock model, I'd carry it decocked.

"Decocking" a non-decock version of the pistol involves pulling the trigger, I do not consider this a safe practice since it involves fine motor skills and is just asking for a N.D.

As long as nobody has screwed up the sear, the "B" model CZ's are as safe to carry cocked & locked as a Series 80 Colt (1911): there is a firing pin block which prevents firing pin contact with the cartridge unless the trigger is pulled, the safety mechanically blocks sear movement, there is a healthy amount of hammer/sear engagement (and in many pistols, the angle is more than 90 degrees with "locks" the sear in place), and there is a half-cock notch.

A non-"B" model such as a pre-B model 75, or an 85 COMBAT, will be the roughly equivalent to a 1911 in terms of safety - just as I described above but without the firing pin disconnect. Be especially wary of trigger jobs on these models that reduce the sear's purchase on the hammer. If it slips for whatever reason, the only thing preventing an A.D. is the half-cock hooks.

-z
 
Since my CZs are BD models, with a decocker instead of a safety, I carry them with the hammer down on a loaded chamber. The CZs have a half-cock notch for the hammer, so the DA pull is considerably shortened.
 
It just depends on what the gun is designed for.....
My S/A or when It becomes my CCW 1/2 breed...Cond 1 all of the way..When its my PCR......hammer down w/ one in the pipe.....
Its got a trigger job and d/a wasnt to bad before that...:D
Shoot well
 
I carry hammer down on a loaded chamber. I lower the hammer with my thumb. I really don't consider decockers to be any safer than using your thumb.
 
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85 pre b, hammer down on loaded chamber. I also have missgivings about the way you have to de-cock the pistol not very safe. I just point it in a safe direction when lowering the hammer.

Mike
 
I just bought the CZ 75 SA so I don't have to worry about it. The better safety makes a difference. And since my first shot will probably be the most important I would like it to be SA.
 
Cond. 2.

I don't buy the idea that the "fine motor skills" necessary for a manual decock in a controlled environment are different than the motor skills necessary to find and deactivate the safety during a fight.

If there is a finger in between the hammer and firing pin during decock, how is that thing going to go off?


If I can't hit it with the DA trigger, it's not getting hit. KISS
 
I agree, Handy. I've been manually decocking firearms, successfully, since I was seven years old. I've also managed to not point them at things I didn't want shot. My CZ's DA trigger is light enough to get a quick shot off. It seems like if there's enough time for a DA trigger pull to make a difference there's enough time to manually cock the hammer. Or is manually cocking the hammer with one's thumb too dangerous, too?

Resp,
G
 
75b Carry

This topic has come up recently on the www.czforum.com .
Originally poster had a quote from Mike (gunsmith @ cz-usa) on recommending (or at least confirming OK) to carry the pistol Condition 2 w/ the hammer @ 'half cock'.

All,

There's been some discussion on the board in the past on whether the sear/hammer interface on the 75B is robust enough to allow it to be routinely carried in the half-cock position. The consensus has been that unlike the BD, the B should not be carried in half-cock. I put the question to Mike, the CZ-USA gunsmith. Here's his reply:

"On the contrary, the B sear is twice as wide as the BD sear and engages
both the left and right hooks of the hammer. The BD sear and hammer have
the left hooks removed to make room for the decocking mechanism on the
left side, which means it is using only the right side of both the sear and
hammer. (This is visible, on close inspection of both models, with hammer fully cocked.)"

I also asked him about whether the safety should operate in the half-cock position since some people have reported this works with their pistols. His reply was:

"The opinion of CZ is that the safety lever should only engage in the full cock position. The safety moving in 1/2 cock or full down position of the hammer is considered a malfunction that warrants a new safety lever."
John Ward
Brandon, Florida



I personally like this idea:

Half cock has a shorter/lighter pull than full DA.

Like the heavier/more deliberate pull than SA for a 1st shot when considering for a defensive situation (having a split second to assess and confirm my intent is a good thing IMHO)

Just another twist.
 
CZ-75B Mil., loaded chamber with the hammer at half cock. I have nothing against cocked and locked carry but I like to keep things the same between my CCW guns and the CCW I use most is a DAO Keltec P-11. Marcus
 
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