How the 6.5 Creedmoor Changed shooting forever!

[silicosys4]

Certainly hasn't changed my world other than some new clutter on forums from a few...erm..."enthusiastic" fans

I have yet to pick up a single round of 6.5CM empty brass on the range I frequent, so either everyone is handloading and saving their brass or it hasn't caught on around here.

 

[horsemen61]

Certainly hasn't changed my world other than some new clutter on forums from a few...erm..."enthusiastic" fans

I have yet to pick up a single round of 6.5CM empty brass on the range I frequent, so either everyone is handloading and saving their brass or it hasn't caught on around here.

Definitely handloading for mine!

 

[Aim1]

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[illinoisburt]

Interesting little discussion ya got there. Funny thing is I had a conversation with a large volume dealer here in Birmingham within the past week asking how the sales were going. He volunteered that he noticed a big drop off in people asking for and purchasing rifles and ammo in 6.5 creedmore compared to the last few years. It may simply be a saturation thing, but they are still selling plenty of hunting rifles. Seems like people are moving on to other cartridges, so maybe it's the wind down of the overt marketing programs.

 

[Old Stumpy]

Seems like these "The 6.5 Creedmoor is A Gift To Mankind" threads pop up as regular as clockwork.

I always have an image of the 6.5 CM devotees gathering at the rifle range dressed in monk's robes and chanting in latin between targets.

 

[troy fairweather]

I like the round just not what it has done.

 

[tbs]

The 6.5 may have changed the shooting world but it hasn't changed mine. When it was first introduced to the competition world i shot a lot match's against the 6.5 with my 1 in 8 twist 22-250. The 6.5's shot great but mine shot just enough better that i didn't give it a second look. If i were new to this and starting out i would look no further than the 6.5 CM.

 

[horsemen61]

Seems like these "The 6.5 Creedmoor is A Gift To Mankind" threads pop up as regular as clockwork

@Old Stumpy

you know well as I do that the 6.5 Creedmoor is the greatest round ever invented

 

[rbernie]

From my view, the 6.5Creed was the first round in my memory to be designed via multiple folk's inputs to specifically to address a series of shooter complaints (as VT stated above, largely based on folk wanting to shoot more rounds, further), and not the product of a single person / group to fill a niche ("MOAR POWERFUL!" or "SUBSONIC!"). I don't have a single 6.5mm of any flavor in my stable, so I don't have a dog in this fight whatsoever, but even I am not going to deny that the 6.5Creed can probably take credit for being the first real (and effective) crowd-sourced design.

If true - that's a pretty big deal.

 

[jmorris]

And I thought the 300 blackout was the best round ever remade.

 

[<*(((><]

I agree that the 6.5 CM is a well designed round in which it’s design used the 6.5x55 and the 260 Rem for all the heavy lifting. But, "changed the shooting world forever," don’t know about that. If it was all that, nearly every shooter would have one, and that is far from the case. I fault no one for liking it and taking up the 6.5 CM banner, but it's really not that different than many others out there, the minutiae of advantages all add up to gain, but it's not breathtaking by any means. Let me put it this way, if we had a 6.5x55, 260 Rem and a 6.5 CM all at the firing line shooting to 1,000 yards it's not going to be the cartridge that makes the difference.

More than likely I will one day end up with a 6.5 rifle, no real desire at this point, but I'm pretty sure it won't be the 6.5 Creedmoor as it has already been eclipsed in performance by the 6.5 PRC. One can download 6.5 PRC to 6.5 Creedmoor loads, but there is a significant upside of being able to really stretch the performance versus 6.5 CM (to the tune of a ~200fps faster with 140's), this puts it close to a 280AI. So what does that say about whether marketing played a role or not in the rise of the 6.5 CM. The 6.5 PRC is what the 6.5 CM should have been some would say, like was said about the 6.5 CM towards the 6.5x55 and 260 Rem.

The reality is, is that the beat goes on and advancements are made, to take any thing away from the 6.5x55 and 260 Rem that blazed a trail isn't giving credit for storied service.

Now smokeless powder, non-corrosive primers, spire point bullets, scopes, better metallurgy, etc., these are what changed shooting sports forever in their own time and effect.

 

[Jack B.]

Go to the range quite often. Haven't seen one yet. I've seen lots of 30-30 , 308 , 223 , 243 , 30-06 , 7mm , 300 magnum , 338 Lapua , 300 blackout ,various pistol caliber lever guns , 22 LR , several 50 caliber guns , but no 6.5 Creedmoor. Go figure.

 

[Aletheia]

All this discussion of whether marketing made the round or not is quite silly. Every gun/hunting forum is littered with threads on the "advantages" of the 6.5CM. The internet is the reason the round took off as it did, despite having no real advantages for the vast majority of hunters/reloaders. This thread is Creedmoor marketing voluntarily provided by fans of the cartridge.

I don't know who it was that discovered water, but it wasn't a fish.

 

[wally]

I have yet to pick up a single round of 6.5CM empty brass on the range I frequent, so either everyone is handloading and saving their brass or it hasn't caught on around here.

Lots of 6.5 CM at our club, I've shot a few other members rifles and like it, but since 300 yards is our maximum distance, it doesn't really do anything for me other than have a bit less recoil than my 7.62, and when I want or need that 5.56 will do all that can be done on a steel plate range at 300 yards. But if a 1000 yard range with steel plates suddenly opened up within an hour driving distance, I'd jump on the CM bandwagon.

Seems to me at our club everyone is saving CM and everything but 5.56 for reloading as very little rifle brass is ever left behind. Handgun brass I use as a "leading" economic indicator and it looks like the good times are expecting to roll -- even plenty of fresh 45ACP brass to pick up the last few times out

 

[JFrank]

I never pick up range brass , my reloading is too involved to introduce someone else’s problems into the mix.

 

[someguy2800]

 

[Arkansas Paul]

So my question to y’all is how in your opinion has the 6.5 Creedmoor changed the shooting landscape forever?

I don't know that it has. It's too early to tell that.
It certainly has drawn an insane amount of attention, whether it be paid for or just word of mouth.

I view the 6.5 CM conversation much the same as I do political conversations. The extremes both ways intrigue me.
The only thing sillier than the people who think the 6.5 CM is the greatest thing ever and should render all other cartridges obsolete is the people who hate it just because everyone else loves it.

It's a good round, but it's not the end all be all of rifle cartridges.
There are a lot of good rounds.

 

[Garandimal]

... Being able to walk into a store and pick up a sub $400 rifle and a $15 box of factory loads and do anything you can do with a 270 in the hunting fields with 1/3 less recoil will appeal to hunters...

Now yer just bein' silly.

It does anything the 100 year old 6.5x55 Swede can do.




GR

 

[Txhillbilly]

I just enjoy hunting and shooting. Yes,I shoot a 6.5 Creedmoor,well actually two of them that I built for long range. I also enjoy shooting all of the other rifles that I have in about 15 other cartridges from .22 - .458 caliber's.
Yes,We all get tired of the fanboy threads,and also the hater threads that surround the 6.5 Creedmoor,but the simple fact is it did create a big change in the shooting world 12 years ago when it came out on the market. Not many other cartridges have ever done that in that amount of time for the sport.

 

[Walkalong]

The 6.5 Creed is a dandy little round that can do a lot, but so can others, and it certainly hasn't changed shooting forever.

The 7 Mauser was using "long for the caliber" high sectional density bullets since forever.

The 6.5 Swede has been killing game across Europe since forever with high sectional density (long) bullets.

Many other great calibers out there. It's just the latest great one.

And it just so happens long for the caliber high sectional density bullets are great for long distance shooting as well as killing game. You just need match quality ones.

 

[dieselchief]

actually I did exactly that. bought a ruger predator for 389, a box off Hornady match ammo and shot a three shot dime sized group....none of my previous purchased 6.5 swedes come close, model 70 featherweight didn't, neither did the ruger 77, nor did two Husqvarna built ones.

 

[MCMXI]

So the easier question to answer - in which shooting demograph is the 6.5 creed NOT viable? Based on this particular forum, the only answer is “aged luddites which disdain anything new”.

Doesn't seem to be too popular in the sport that initially made it popular. Oh the irony! Heck, the 6.5x47 Lapua that preceded the 6.5CM by two years is more popular!

 

[troy fairweather]

It took well more then half its life to become popular.

 

[d2wing]

Yup, world changing stuff appears regularly, What isn't world changing to it's fans. But the idea that there isn't internet and social marketing is ignorant. My son was just offered a job to do just that. All kinds of companies have people on staff whose job is to place ads and post on social networks, online marketplaces and so on. To think that this doesn't happen is just ignorant. I am pretty some of that has been posted on here.
The 6.5 Creedmore is an excellent cartridge. I can see why it is well liked as an all around and a great for long distant shooting. Not my first choice for Elk and up. I like my 7-08 that was also a world changer in it's day and in my opinion better for hunting.

 

[Varminterror]

Doesn't seem to be too popular in the sport that initially made it popular. Oh the irony! Heck, the 6.5x47 Lapua that preceded the 6.5CM by two years is more popular!

I’ve mentioned that here many times. I started to comment the same in this thread, but deleted the comments before posting. Even before the 6.5 creed had reached it’s height of popularity, precision rifle competitors had already moved on. The PRS game has changed sufficiently to penalize the 6.5 Creedmoor into obsolescence. But the 6 creed is a barrel burner with low ammo availability (so far), and the Dasher simply hasn’t ever been a commonly palatable cartridge. For the casual rifle buyer, or the first year PRS shooter, the 6.5 creed remains a better option than the speedy 6’s, as it does for hunters, but it’s absolutely not the best choice for a serious PR competitor - outside of Production class at least, where our options have recently become wholly custom rifles anyway...