How the Republican Party can save itself in the Elections

[Lone_Gunman]

that if the Supreme Court overturns Roe v. Wade (and this is not unlikely) ... prior to the presidential elections, and abortion becomes an issue in the 2008 election year ... the Republican Party is toast.

I don't want to turn this into an abortion thread, but why do you say that?

I think the electoral college will prevent an overturn of Roe v. Wade from affecting presidential elections.

The states where most Roe v. Wade supporters live are already heavily Democratic and will not vote for Bush. In most Bush states (eg, the entire South) , Roe v. Wade is not heavily supported.

 

[afasano]

Build a fence and gates so we can close the border and roads with mexico, round up all illegals and send them back.

 

[stevelyn]

How the Republican Party can save itself in the Elections

It's too late. It can't. It's about to implode. The Republican Party was given a golden opportunity to do something meaningful and show what it was made of after winning the last election. They managed to pi$$ it away.

They "effed" up with a capital "F" by trying to act like the socialist left and now they are about to have their arses handed to them in the upcoming elections.

Sorry, I just can't defend or have any sympathy for stupid people.

 

[Old Dog]

Lone Gunman asks

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that if the Supreme Court overturns Roe v. Wade (and this is not unlikely) ... prior to the presidential elections, and abortion becomes an issue in the 2008 election year ... the Republican Party is toast.

I don't want to turn this into an abortion thread, but why do you say that?

I also don't want to turn this into an abortion thread, but it seems that most here on this forum are so focused on issues such as the war, immigration, oil prices and RKBA that they’re ignoring what many believe will be the next big social and political battle – one that will really divide the country further.

Justice Steven is 86; if he retires anytime soon, Bush will surely be under pressure to put up a solid conservative. Even should the Senate Dems attempt a filibuster (which would be likely for Bush’s last appointment), the Republicans will probably be serious (this time) about using the so-called “nuclear option.”

There is going to be a Constitutional challenge to the (federal) ban on partial-birth abortions that will be heard by SCOTUS. With another conservative on the court, it’s entirely possible that not only do the justices uphold the right of Congress and the states to ban partial-birth abortions, but that the court overturns Roe v. Wade.

Allowing states to ban or restrict abortions from the very beginning of pregnancy will prove to be one of the most contentious social issues to come along since perhaps civil rights.

The handwriting is on the wall as far as this issue goes. Some states (South Dakota is one) are already preparing for the overturning of Roe v. Wade. I realize it’s not a good issue for discussion on a firearms forum, but the potential ramifications of the whole thing have widespread implications for election races on the state and national level.

 

[longeyes]

Well, aside from the relative importance of the abortion issue vis-a-vis the others you cited, that would assume that a) Stevens retires b) that Bush is still in the Oval Office and c) that the Senate is still run by the GOP. No sure thing, on any front.

We have serious enemies both outside and inside this country. I think the real abortion issue right now is whether we are about to abort 200 years of our national history.

 

[308win]

I hope Justice Stevens does retire; I hope that the Republicans do retain control of the legislature because as bad as they are, the loyal opposition isn't really an option right now; as for Bush remaining in office: I am far from a Bush supporter but the thought of Cheney becoming President makes me a Bush supporter.

 

[spartacus2002]

If the Democrats sweep the House and Senate and try to impeach Bush, they will also try to impeach Cheney too.

 

[longeyes]

If the Democrats sweep the House and Senate and try to impeach Bush, they will also try to impeach Cheney too.

Give them enough power and everyone they hate--and they are about nothing if not hate--will end in a gulag. (Yes, that means us.)

 

[RocketMan]

I voted "Other".
The Republicans cannot save themselves. It's too late, there is not sufficient time before the elections to regain the respect and support of enough of their base to win.
There will be a change in control of Congress at the end of 2006.

 

[RealGun]

The Republicans cannot save themselves. It's too late, there is not sufficient time before the elections to regain the respect and support of enough of their base to win.
There will be a change in control of Congress at the end of 2006.

I think voters will simply look closer at candidates and demand a certain message from them. Incumbents are in some difficulty, I think. Underlying the ultimate choices though will be a concern about the direction of the abortion question, sad to say. A Republican, although not pro-life by definition, will not swing so easily to the Democrat side.

 

[Lobotomy Boy]

It will be interesting to see how the traditional wedge issues like abortion, gun control, and gay rights play out this year. It's always seemed to me that these issues carry more water when people don't have more important things like gas prices to worry about. People seem more willing to set aside their principles when they get hit in their pocket books. Like him or hate him, but Bill Clinton was on to something when he said, "It's the economy, stupid."

 

[RocketMan]

People seem more willing to set aside their principles when they get hit in their pocket books. Like him or hate him, but Bill Clinton was on to something when he said, "It's the economy, stupid."

Good point.

 

[Thin Black Line]

There is going to be a Constitutional challenge to the (federal) ban on partial-birth abortions that will be heard by SCOTUS. With another conservative on the court, it’s entirely possible that not only do the justices uphold the right of Congress and the states to ban partial-birth abortions, but that the court overturns Roe v. Wade.

Which is probably what would happen if things were working properly with
our check, balances, and power that was to be reserved to the States.

Give them enough power and everyone they hate--and they are about nothing if not hate--will end in a gulag. (Yes, that means us.)

I don't think it will matter which party is in power by 2012 because they
are just part of a scripted public adversarial skit designed to bring about a
specific outcome.