I dreamed up a new type of rifle last night,,,

[aarondhgraham]

I dreamed up a new type of rifle last night,,,
Honest to gawsh it came to me in a dream I was having.

I had just watched "The Free State of Jones) yesterday evening,,,
I had a dream about an ante-bellum gun battle.

I was shooting at someone with my 1858 Remington revolving carbine,,,
When it came time to reload, instead of pulling the cylinder pin and swapping in a loaded cylinder,,,
I hit a latch on the top strap to open the rifle like a break open revolver, removed the empty cylinder, and replaced it with a new loaded one from my belt.

It was so danged vivid that it woke me up,,,
I went and got my reproduction carbine out of the safe,,,
And stared at it for a while wondering if this could have been manufactured.

Is this an honest to gawsh original idea,,,
Or was it done at one time and failed miserably?

The more I think of it the more I think it would have worked.

Any thoughts?

Aarond

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[Gordon]

I like it ! Would fit with my idea of a permanently mounted tube on the barrel and a quickly removeable monocore supressor. Hey it is allowed on pellet guns !

 

[Acera]

Try looking up the Smith & Wesson Model 320 Revolving Rifle. I think you will find it similar to what you are talking about, except it is a cartridge revolver.


Until you find a real one, you might try and find one of these to play with.
http://www.moretoyguns.com/mm5/merc...&Product_Code=300DT&Category_Code=8000-RIFLES



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[kBob]

Take a look at the Starr 1858 revolver. Notice that it is a hinged frame but that it is held together by a screw rather than a catch like your typical top break. It also lacks an axis pin depending on a fitting under the barrel and a feature on the cylinder itself. I would bet it would have bee possible to do a Webly type break open type latch, if not a Smith&Wesson or Schoffield with that cylinder system. If you insist on a axis pin, just look at how they were on all the little top breaks and go with that.

About 30 years ago a buddy and I discussed this possibility when playing with an Alternative Civil War story idea. The dreaded super soldiers in this case where to be cavalry with a revolver and several loaded cylinders and a revolving carbine that worked just that way. With cylinders loaded off the gun and no need to load on the gun the carbines could have had some sort of shield like the Taurus revolving carbines now. Leave the revolvers without the shield and thus every trooper had a way to load for both guns.

-kBob

 

[aarondhgraham]

Hello Acera and kBob:

I love that toy carbine,,,
It's perzactktly what I had envisioned.

This is near perfect,,,

Replace that pin with a Webley style latch and reload away.

Thanks gentlemen.

Aarond

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[Stormson]

The latch is the weak point in any top break system... And the more weight ya put on the barrel, the more stress on that latch.

Other then that its a great idea!

 

[barnbwt]

Just need to "Turnbull-ize" it and slap on something nicer than the wire stock. TOZ 81;

"The latch is the weak point in any top break system"
This revolver had five rounds of 410 or 5.45x39. If a 1911 barrel link can handle a 16" conversion barrel or giant muzzle brake, so can a latch holding back several thousand pounds of bolt thrust

 

[drobs]

Are we keeping it BP in this fantasy gun we are designing?
The removable cylinder should have the ability to use "locked in" or clipped in 209 primers.