I got a NO FIREARMS sign removed

[docfubar]

There is a camping hiking area known as Settlement canyon here in Tooele Utah. I finally went up there this past Sunday, and at the gate shack there was a big "No Firearms" sign up. The gate keeper was a retired gentleman who didn't know much. Well after doing much research I got a hold of his boss and asked about the codes allowing it to be a NO Firearms area.

She came off a little snippy but finally said she did not know why but would research it and get back to me. I really didn't believe her but said ok. about 2 hours later she called me back. After talking to the city lawyers, they decided it was fine to carry there but would restrict the areas allowable to shoot. She told me the sign had been there for about 15 years and I was the first person they knew about to call and ask about it.

 

[Huckle2]

+1 doc

 

[Treo]

Did they actually remove the signs?

 

[ArmedBear]

Good job!

That was much more productive than just shooting a few holes in the sign, which seems to be a common thing to do around here.

 

[docfubar]

I just got home from work (midnights) and am going to bed. Am going to run up this evening and check. She said she called the gate keeper and told him to remove it. I'll post later unless I can get thefumegator to run up and check for me.

 

[trashpickinman]

Ironically, I'm keeping quiet (except to everyone here) about keeping a no firearms sign up! Don't hate me yet.

The local grocery store I believe has had a sign up prohibiting firearms even before Kansas had a concealed carry law. But, what they haven't realized is after the ccw law, to legally prohibit someone from carrying concealed on their property they have to use the one and only legal graphic image supplied by the state, which they are not using. Their sign show the silhouette of a revolver, the official Kansas graphic is the silhouette of an autoloading pistol, not a difference most people would realize, but not official by the states' definition.

I'm sure they can still kick someone out for trespassing if they notice a firearm, but due to the sign I'm pretty sure nothing can be done specifically about the gun being involved. If that made any sense.

So as long as no one mentions the wrong sign, and we've had a concealed carry law for several years now, concealed carry in that particular store is not illegal.

 

[hso]

Good for you!

 

[Crunker1337]

Two thumbs way up!

 

[ScottyT]

Great work Doc!

I am still contacting Murray City to get them to remove the illegal and unenforceable "No Firearms" part of their Jordan River Parkway signs. Not having much luck yet...

 

[glockman19]

Good job...

...and Thanks.

 

[anarchris]

good work

we need this kind of activism

 

[Geno]

Wow, talk about pro-firearms action. Congrats!

Doc2005

 

[Thernlund]

Now there's a man who took action. Good work!

-T.

 

[usmarine0352_2005]

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Nice. All I did for my country was stay at a Holiday Inn.


.

 

[jpsimms]

Congrats on a job well done. I'm suprised that no one had complained/asked before that

 

[wheelgunslinger]

wow. he really did get farther with a kind word and a gun...




Nice work. May we all be so diplomatic and successful.

 

[bogie]

So as long as no one mentions the wrong sign, and we've had a concealed carry law for several years now, concealed carry in that particular store is not illegal.

It's still immoral - because if you go past that sign, and spend money at the store, you're helping it stay up, regardless of whether it is "legal" or not.

It's bad PR for those signs to be up, "legal" or not.

Talk to the people. Don't tell 'em it isn't "legal," but do tell them that it offends you, and that you really don't want to shop there, and will, in fact, go out to your way at times to shop at other merchants. Be nice. Be polite.

Because, sometimes, one shooter can accomplish stuff.

 

[makarovnik]

That makes much more sense. "No shooting". Funny how stupid people get carried away with their "blanket statements".

Remember; It's always about money. She realized that they could get sued so to save themselves a big legal hassle down the road they decided to act properly.

Good for you and I hope she thanked you for pointing out their stupidity.

 

[docfubar]

Well I got up and took a drive and all that is left is a big tape outline on the window. She was actually really nice the second time I talked to her.

 

[FCFC]

Fine work, docfubar. That was a very good communication effort.

 

[joop]

very nice!

 

[doc2rn]

SNAP! Way to go! Two thumbs way up.

 

[romma]

Way to go! Big back pat from THR!!

 

[Eightball]

Good job, man!

 

[bnkrazy]

Awesome job!