I hate my worthless local gun shop!

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Dbl0Kevin

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So today I decide to stop in the "local" (read only one left in a 40 minute drive) gunshop today to see if i could take a look at some optics for my AR-15. I ask the guy "do you have an EOTech or Bushnell holosight?" and he looks at me like I have two heads for a second then goes "uhhhhh nope". So I say do you have ANY holosights, reddots, etc.?? So he goes "oooh red dot....yeah we have this" and proceeds to hand me some $30 POS tasco red dot. I said no thanks I was looking for more of the high end stuff and left. This is the same place that wanted to charge me $22 for a box of .45acp so I could shoot on their indoor range. :cuss:

It's a good thing I didn't ask if he had an ACOG. Is a quality gunshop too much to ask in this godforsaken state!?!? :banghead:
 
Does this shop deal in higher end firearms and other higher end accessories? If they generally have only the "common" brands, it's more than likely, they just don't follow and see the customer base of these level of optics. Not defending them, but just asking. A shop carrying mainly base model everything isn't likely to carry AGOCs
 
They have a lot of overpriced junk. They're big into antiques and used guns and especially bows and archery stuff. They have some quality handguns and a few new rifles, but as far as accessories go it's pretty useless. But what do I expect for living in jersey. :rolleyes:
 
Please don't give them any OTHER ideas. I'm already holding my breath waiting for the "smart gun" mandate to kick in. Hopefully no one will ever come out with such a ridiculous item and it'll never happen. But NJ has never met a gun or gun part that it didn't like to ban. :banghead:
 
Kev, are you specifically looking to go hands-on, or are you simply looking for a dealer to make a purchase? I've found there are very few storefronts that carry that kind of hardware. If you were in SoCal or DFW, I could point you in the right direction. If you need a dealer to make a purchase, let me know what you want and I'll point you in the right direction.
 
Really sad thing is (inexcusible IMO) ..... that a gun shop does not seem to know about items beyond the mundane, every-day stuff..

OK .. their customer base does not merit stocking all the special items but heck .... if a shop wants to survive it must do business. That means often just advising a customer and ordering what is needed ... they get their mark, the customer is (hopefully) happy .... and all is well.

Some of these places deserve to fail .. really they do. Any wonder so many of us shop on line these days? ..... except the advise is still not there ...... but that's where THR comes in so often!:)
 
Tech, I was mainly looking for a place where I could get a hands on, real life look at some stuff. I've pretty much decided to go with an EOTech when I get the money up, but I would have liked to check it out in person along with an ACOG reflex or maybe even an OKO just too see if anything jumped out at me in person rather than just reading about it.

There's another dealer that I know stock's EOTech's in the area but it's about 25 miles away and in a direction that I never have a reason to go. So I just haven't wanted to waste the gas to drive all the way down there yet just to look at stuff.

But if you know of where to get the best price on an EOTech I'm all ears. :D
 
Hey, my "local" just tried to charge me 60 bucks to take a barrel off my vz24 and put a Parker Hale barrel on. Just unscrew and screw, no headspace or anything else. I said thank you very much, hung up, and ordered a 40 dollar wrench from Midway less than 5 minutes later.

There was some definitely screwing going on there, but now I feel it's going the other way....his prices are outrageous and his politics are pretty extreme, it's putting him out of business and he doesn't even realize it.

I'd be happy but there is nobody else even close.....:fire:
 
Dblokev That place wouldn't be Rays would it?

Ray's is actually one of the dealers that carries EOTech, but it's a good hour and a half from me. I've been dying to get up there to look around cause I've heard so much about it just never have. The one I went to was Bob's in Glassboro....never has anything I want. Lawmen Supply in Egg Harbor is an EOTech distributor, but I just never have a reason to get up that way.
 
I get a kick out of all these people who claim you often get expert service and advice from many gunshops. I am an avid shooter ,collector ,sometime competitor,and serious home gun tinkerer(even have lathe and mill). I certainly do not know near as much as some but I rarely run into many gunshop owners or pawnshop owners who have this wealth of knowledge or service concerning guns. The opposite is more often the case. Many are very ignorant about the firearms. Kind of like some car salesmen who really do not know the details of what they sell. I buy many guns from my local dealers but I do not expect service or expertise concerning the guns.
 
I work in a store that sells camera equipment. We're the last store in a very large area that sells certain higher-end brands of equipment. We stock more than most other local stores, but there's zillions of cool goodies that we can't afford to stock. Most of us employees have forgotten more about cameras than the majority of our customers know . But there are some of us employees who know more than others, and there are some serious amateurs and dedicated professionals who know much more than any of us employees do.

There are lots of cool things we'd like to stock. But (from an accounting point of view) we're already swimming in inventory costs, and one more $1000 item that we'll make $78 or $116 "profit" selling is only going to be truly profitable if we can:

1.) Move it quickly - the lost use of the money and/or the interest on the loan money spent buying it is crippling if it sits there for long.
2.) Move it at or near full price - this is already way below the fantastical "list" price, but above the (real or supposed) ultra-low prices of our mega-store competitors.

Most of the time, when we get in a pair of cool new toys (as opposed to our bread and butter guaranteed sellers), the display gets fondled by every camera buff in the area, three of these "loyal customers" buy one off the internet, one person buys the non-display model, and someone else argues us down on the price of the display, since it's already been lovingly caressed by the folks who "got a better deal" from some place where they couldn't touch the item before purchase, and offers no after-sale support.

Either the above, or no else shares the passion that we had for the item, so we employees get to check it out in the store, then sit on the inventory for six months until we eBay it at a loss because it didn't sell.

None of this excuses rudeness to customers, or poor customer service.

It does leave a bad taste in one's mouth, however, and I am deeply sympathetic to guys trying to run an independent shop without the purchase power of a chain or wealthy corporate structure behind them. It always kill me when somebody expresses shock and/or outrage (and they do) that we don't stock every single camera, lens, accessory and sundry that, say, Mamiya sells. Never mind that the Mamiya America Corporation catalog is about an inch thick, lists thousands of current and obsolete items, and it's one of three dozen dealer catalogs just like it on our shelves.

I tell you all this because I see striking parallels between the firearms marketplace and the camera marketplace, with the primary difference being the firearms industry is tightly regulated, in a way which I suspect inevitably adds a lot of overhead costs to the cost of doing business.

-twency

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Twency - you make some sound points and I for one would not dispute the main premise. Inventory sucks profits ... when sitting doing nothing too long.

I have no prob with a gun store keeping a low inventory - my local guy does this and I know why ... makes sense. However, whilst the photographic market is forever seeing almost built-in obsolescence .. and so new product after new product ... the gun business does in many ways stay relatively stable.

Sure, new guns come along - new cals and loads of ammo ....... but for most part things change only slowly ... a big difference IMO compared with your (nightmare!?0 field.!

So - I think the point some of us are trying to make is .. that a ''reasonable'' gun shop should have staff who can manage to answer basic questions .... know pretty much what is ''out there'' in the marketplace... and so be able to order up as requested. Sad thing is ... it seems there are some gun shops around now with little specific knowledge on even some basics ... and unless they can assist and advise a customer ... they are I fear failing as vendors.

My guy is pretty much ... ''I may not know the answer - but I know a guy who does'' ... so he still helps and is courteous ... and gets business, mine anways.
 
Is a quality gunshop too much to ask in this godforsaken state!?!?

It seems so, at least for the ATF. There used to be over 150,000 FFLs in this country(1999). There are now less than 20,000 if I understand it correctly.
 
I could believe those numbers if you said 1989. It was my understanding that the Klinton administration was the one that really start cutting into the FFLs. Either way I realize it's tough to stock every item, but at least be a little knowledgable about them and don't look at me like I'm nuts when I ask about something. :banghead:
 
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Kev I mentioned Rays because it does have a large archery section and an indoor range. I've done a lot of business there. They have a huge selection of new and used guns and the prices are reasonable.The sales staff is ok, it depends on who you get,it might be worth the trip

Mike
 
There is a lot to be said about a small town, no hassle gun shop.
At the one where I live, west of Knoxville, you never get hype to buy what they have. Instead, they say "I'll order it for you and have it by Thursday".

You can't beat that!
 
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