I went to a friends house...

[SCKimberFan]

You should get your CCL...if he doen't know it won't hurt him. I mean maybe it's the look the scares his wife,

Go back and re-read the OP. He stated it was the hubby that asked him not to carry. Now you tell him to ignore the wishes of the homeowner. Yeah, that's real high road.

Why do so many posters feel it is their right to trample other's rights in their own homes? If I don't want you to carry in my house, then don't, unless you don't value the friendship. Personally I carry all the time whether outside or in my house, so I wouldn't have a problem with it, but if someone asks me not to bring the gun into their home, I won't. It's called R-E-S-P-E-C-T!

 

[rich0372]

Why do so many posters feel it is their right to trample other's rights in their own homes?

You missed the point you are respecting him...he doesn't know you have one on because he doesn't see it. Why is it not high road you are respecting his wishes you are not open carrying, so it doesn't scare him or family.

 

[Officers'Wife]

Hi Albatross,
Fact remains, the owner has the responsibility of what happens on his property. If he chooses not to accept the risk of your carry on his property that is not a matter of him 'owning' you, it is a matter of not wanting to accept the risk. Your attitude of 'he don't own me' tells me you have respect none for property. With that attitude the rest of the actions fall right into line.

Selena

 

[SCKimberFan]

You missed the point you are respecting him...he doesn't know you have one on because he doesn't see it. Why is it not high road you are respecting his wishes you are not open carrying, so it doesn't scare him or family.

WRONG!

Reread the post. He asked him not to carry in his home. Concealed carry is still carry.

He asked him NOT to bring the gun into HIS home. That's why! Respect HIS wishes of NOT having a gun in his home.

Why is that so hard to understand?! :banghead:

 

[rich0372]

Why is that so hard to understand?!

Forget it some people are to thick headed.... man I do understand. I'm just saying another way for the OP to deal with the situation is to CCL, then he's happy and feels safe, and the friend is happy because he doesn't see the gun. I's obvious that the OP friends feel uncomfortable around guns that's why the said "DON'T SHOOT" when they opened the door. So I'm saying if they don't see the weapon they won't feel uncomfortable.

 

[SCKimberFan]

man I do understand.

Your response tells me you don't. He doesn't want the gun in his house. His house, his rules.

 

[rich0372]

Your response tells me you don't. He doesn't want the gun in his house. His house, his rules.

Opinions vary

 

[blackcash88]

Thats when he tells me if I would not mind could I not carry over at his place.

If it were me, his "wishes" do NOT trump my right to defend myself with a firearm. I would carry concealed and go on with life as normal like I already do. But, I'm a dick like that I guess and I don't care.

If I were "made" to be carrying then, based on his statement above, I would MIND that I could not carry and that's why I'm doing it.

 

[kingpin008]

How unsafe is it to walk from his truck (where he has his gun) to the guy's door?

What does it matter how safe it is to walk from his ca to the friend's door? Is there a sliding scale of safety that dictates when and how a person should carry?

FWIW, I agree with you 100% that carrying concealed without the friend knowing is basically spitting in his face in regards to his request that you not carry. If I ask someone to not carry in my house (which will never happen) and they continue to do so, only from that point on it's concealed, I consider that person a stranger who doesn't respect me enough to follow a simple request.

Oh, and Rich - Opinions don't very - they vary. Just sayin'.

 

[rich0372]

Oh, and Rich - Opinions don't very - they vary. Just sayin'.

Thanks for the spelling check I fixed it for you.....happy

agree with you 100% that carrying concealed without the friend knowing is basically spitting in his face in regards to his request that you not carry. If I ask someone to not carry in my house (which will never happen) and they continue to do so, only from that point on it's concealed, I consider that person a stranger who doesn't respect me enough to follow a simple request.

I didn't say I would do this just giving the OP ideas, he did say he was thinking about doing this anyway. If you conceal from the get go nobody would ever would know. That's why concealing is better IMO

 

[SCKimberFan]

From the OP, his friend lives in the middle of nowhere, with the nearest house miles away. So yes I do think there is a scale of safety (or danger). JMO - which may vary from others.

 

[CHEVELLE427]

AS STATED HIS HOUSE HIS RULES.

if it bugs you too much.

just entertain them at you house (YOUR RULES)

 

[blackcash88]

"His house, his rules"

But, isn't that like giving an unlawful order in the military? I don't have to obey it. The Constitution and 2nd A are LAW. By him requiring that person's RIGHT to not only keep, but to BEAR arms be disregarded, he is technically breaking the law part that says "shall not be infringed". It does not specify infringement from any specific source, so it means EVERYONE. That is why I have no problem carrying ANYWHERE against someone's wishes. It is not illegal for me to violate wishes or policies, but it is illegal to require unlawful disarmament. That said, if I were caught carrying and asked to leave or disarm, I would either leave or comply that ONE time. Depends on the circumstances. If/when I go back, I'll be definitely carrying.

 

[vtoddball]

So yes I do think there is a scale of safety (or danger). JMO - which may vary from others.

The cemeteries are full of people who thought they'd be safe for a quick run to the convenient store or wouldn't need their gun while inside McDonalds or while on a short country drive. The point is you never know when you will need to defend yourself and "feeling" safe doesn't equate to "being" safe.

If it was someone I respected, I just wouldn't go there anymore. Otherwise, if I was there because my wife was friends with them or I had to be there, I'd carry concealed. I'm not going to risk my family's safety because of their ignorance. If he "catches" me he can ask me to leave and I will. If he can ignore my rights, I'll ignore is. Is that "mature?" Probably not, but it's safer.

How about two ounces of coke?

One is legal while the other is not. They are not comparable for the sake of argument.

does that mean they have no right to tell you not to climb up on the roof? Swim in the quarry? Blast his livestock with 1000 watt woofers?

These also are not comparable. These are all overt actions that significantly increase the risk of injury or damage property. If I'm visiting on the front porch, the level of real risk is the same whether I'm armed or not. Only the "perceived" risk is higher on the part of the uninformed.

 

[SCKimberFan]

Its all about me and my rights!!!

The heck with you and your rights!!!

If your life is so wrapped up in having to have a gun in someone else's home, who has specifically asked you not to, then I feel sorry for you.

You don't get respect if you don't give respect.

 

[blackcash88]

Um, you do realize that violence can occur any and every where, right?

This happened not to long ago here in CT. A woman went to her friends' house for Sunday morning coffee/socializing and they were subject to a home invasion with multiple attackers. Still think you don't need gun at a friends house? If so, you'll just never get it.

 

[cassandrasdaddy]

just curious how many of those who would disregard someones wishes in their house have a house? when i was a snot nosed kid i regularly disregarded my parents wishes in their house. can be a hard habit to break

 

[blackcash88]

I own my own home and would carry concealed in another home owner's home and not think twice about it. Whether it's "allowed" or not.

 

[Im283]

Carry guns should be loaded, holstered, and forgotten about until (god forbid) they're needed. Period. Fiddling causes accidents.

Without a doubt this is the most intelligent post on this thread.
I agree 100% Load it, put it in the holster and leave it the hell alone until it is needed.

 

[Zundfolge]

I refuse to buy into this argument that guns are special and/or "extra dangerous".

If I had a friend tell me something like "You're welcome to come over, but not if you're going to wear that tee shirt with the picture of Snoopy on it." I wouldn't go to their house at all. A gun carried properly in a holster an not fiddled with is every bit as safe as a Snoopy tee shirt and the only reason to forbid it is out of hopolophobia and/or politics.

As for the argument that its the right of the homeowner to forbid entry of anything or anyone, I agree 100%, but that doesn't mean you should give up the right to NOT go where you are made to feel uncomfortable for your beliefs or the kind of property you own.

 

[hotshotshoting]

this isn't an issue with "respecting someones wishes"


i would just say ok and keep it concealed...
or the alternative would be to leave and not go back there....

when you agree to disarm yourself to make someone else FEEL more comfortable you are opening the door to many politicians and liberals who are like omg guns are bad i feel safer because you don't have a gun....

 

[SCKimberFan]

It is most certainly about respect. His house. His rules.

I give up. :banghead::banghead::banghead:

 

[hotshotshoting]

what about things that are a bit more important than someone else's "feeling good"

like your life? so your saying that nothing bad will ever happen at his house?

 

[cassandrasdaddy]

you call shots in your house

 

[hotshotshoting]

if a tree falls in the woods and no one is around does it make a noise?