lostbird
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Model 36 DOB
Model 36(no dash)
.38 Special
1 7/8" pinned barrel
Nickel finish
Round Butt
S/N AEU13XX
Model 36(no dash)
.38 Special
1 7/8" pinned barrel
Nickel finish
Round Butt
S/N AEU13XX
Identity and Date of Manufacture of S&W Revolvers
- Thread starter Brian Williams
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Radagast
Member
lostbird: Late 1984. Guns in the AEVxxxx range shipped in November of that year.
.455_Hunter
Member
Hi Radagast!
Try this one...
Model 10-5, blued 2" snub, round butt, C7715XX, diamond grips.
Thanks!
Try this one...
Model 10-5, blued 2" snub, round butt, C7715XX, diamond grips.
Thanks!
Radagast
Member
.445 Hunter:
Your Model 10 .38 Military & Police tapered barrel dates to the period 1963-1965. Serial range for those years was C622700 to C810532, so 1963 or early 1964 seems likely.
Water-Man:
Your Model 10-7 .38 Military & Police tapered barrel dates to 1979.
The three inch barrel is unusual, it may be an Australian police trade in as most of those had a three inch barrel and were surplussed off in the last few years.
Your Model 10 .38 Military & Police tapered barrel dates to the period 1963-1965. Serial range for those years was C622700 to C810532, so 1963 or early 1964 seems likely.
Water-Man:
Your Model 10-7 .38 Military & Police tapered barrel dates to 1979.
The three inch barrel is unusual, it may be an Australian police trade in as most of those had a three inch barrel and were surplussed off in the last few years.
Let's see,
Smith & Wesson Model 686-3
Black Stainless Steel
4" barrel
.357mag Target sights
sn. BBV6***
I have heard these are a bit rare. I'm thinking late eighties, but would like to know for sure.
Smith & Wesson Model 686-3
Black Stainless Steel
4" barrel
.357mag Target sights
sn. BBV6***
I have heard these are a bit rare. I'm thinking late eighties, but would like to know for sure.
Radagast
Member
kudu:
The Model 686-3 with 4 inch barrel in Midnight Black Stainless was manufactured in 1989 with a total of 1559 produced. Product code is 104250.
The Model 686-3 with 4 inch barrel in Midnight Black Stainless was manufactured in 1989 with a total of 1559 produced. Product code is 104250.
marinewar1
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Model 10-5
.38 Spcl.
4" barrel
fixed sights
Serial number is under the Hogue Monogrip, be back later with SN...
also, marked with "NMPD 1041" ?? any idea what that means?
Thanks much!!
.38 Spcl.
4" barrel
fixed sights
Serial number is under the Hogue Monogrip, be back later with SN...
also, marked with "NMPD 1041" ?? any idea what that means?
Thanks much!!
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Radagast
Member
The Model 10-5 was produced from 1962 to 1977.
NMPD 1041 will be a departmental marking, that one is not listed in the Standard Catalog of S&W. Perhaps the guys at www.smith-wessonforum.com can ID it.
Get back to me with the serial number and I'll date it.
NMPD 1041 will be a departmental marking, that one is not listed in the Standard Catalog of S&W. Perhaps the guys at www.smith-wessonforum.com can ID it.
Get back to me with the serial number and I'll date it.
cyclopsshooter
Member
a) 28-2
b) 4"
c) Square
d) 6 shots/cylinder bores
e) Rear Adj. type of sights.
f) n518144
g) 31237 (face of the cylinder) with G1 stamped next to it
b) 4"
c) Square
d) 6 shots/cylinder bores
e) Rear Adj. type of sights.
f) n518144
g) 31237 (face of the cylinder) with G1 stamped next to it
Radagast
Member
cyclopsshooter:
The N5xxxxx range was used 1977 to 1980 for Model 58s and Model 28s. I think its safe to guess yours dates to 1977 or early 1978.
The N5xxxxx range was used 1977 to 1980 for Model 58s and Model 28s. I think its safe to guess yours dates to 1977 or early 1978.
joel6180
Member
Date of 33-1
a) .38 S&W
b) 4”
c) Square butt
d) 5 shots
e) Fixed sights
f) 107,4XX
g) 33-1
Thanks, Joel
a) .38 S&W
b) 4”
c) Square butt
d) 5 shots
e) Fixed sights
f) 107,4XX
g) 33-1
Thanks, Joel
Radagast
Member
joel6180:
Your Model 33-1 .38 Regulation Police was manufactured between 1961 when the change to the J frame (indicated by the -1) occurred & 1969, when an T prefix was introduced for serial numbers.Yours has the concave cylinder release, which narrows it down to 1966-1969. If the grips are original then that narrows it down to 1968-1969, prior to 1968 the grips had an un-checkered diamond around the grip screws.
Your Model 33-1 .38 Regulation Police was manufactured between 1961 when the change to the J frame (indicated by the -1) occurred & 1969, when an T prefix was introduced for serial numbers.Yours has the concave cylinder release, which narrows it down to 1966-1969. If the grips are original then that narrows it down to 1968-1969, prior to 1968 the grips had an un-checkered diamond around the grip screws.
km101
Member
I would like to find a DOM on my "Pet", a S&W model 19-1. Thanks!
a) .357
b) 4"
c) square butt
d) 6
e) adj.
f) K466109
g) 19-1
a) .357
b) 4"
c) square butt
d) 6
e) adj.
f) K466109
g) 19-1
Radagast
Member
km101:
Your Model 19-1 Combat Magnum was manufactured in 1961.
Your Model 19-1 Combat Magnum was manufactured in 1961.
Pre Model 10?
a) .38 S&W
b) 4”
c) Square butt
d) 6 shots
e) Fixed sights
f) V 6183XX
g) Kind of hard to tell. Looks like a hard stamped 1 above what looks like "78 575".
This gun also has some engraving on the barrel that is interesting.
One line looks like "AL 1 * 150" The * is a .
The next line has "4 TONS PER[]" Where the [] is a square.
The serial number is also on the underneath the barrel.
It has Stag stocks. I doubt they are stock...
Thanks, Marty
a) .38 S&W
b) 4”
c) Square butt
d) 6 shots
e) Fixed sights
f) V 6183XX
g) Kind of hard to tell. Looks like a hard stamped 1 above what looks like "78 575".
This gun also has some engraving on the barrel that is interesting.
One line looks like "AL 1 * 150" The * is a .
The next line has "4 TONS PER[]" Where the [] is a square.
The serial number is also on the underneath the barrel.
It has Stag stocks. I doubt they are stock...
Thanks, Marty
Radagast
Member
Tex62:
You have a .38-200 British Service Revolver manufactured during WWII & probably dating to 1943 or early 1944. Original stocks would have been smooth walnut. The barrel was probably originally 5 inches long, as this was standard on the BSR. The other markings sound like British proof marks.
You have a .38-200 British Service Revolver manufactured during WWII & probably dating to 1943 or early 1944. Original stocks would have been smooth walnut. The barrel was probably originally 5 inches long, as this was standard on the BSR. The other markings sound like British proof marks.
evan price
Member
1224xx
Flat latch, 2" snub, small grip, 5 shot 38, diamond grips, no model number in crane but looks like a 3rd style mod 36, perhaps a pre-36?
Thank you!
ETA: appears to be a 1957 pre 36.
Flat latch, 2" snub, small grip, 5 shot 38, diamond grips, no model number in crane but looks like a 3rd style mod 36, perhaps a pre-36?
Thank you!
ETA: appears to be a 1957 pre 36.
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Radagast
Member
evan price:
Stamping of Model numbers began in 1957 at serial number 125000. So late 1956 or early 1957 for your Chiefs Special.
Tex62:
The British .380 revolver round was a .38 S&W case loaded with a 200 grain lead projectile, then later with a 178 grain jacketed projectile. Modern .38 S&W is perfectly safe to shoot in your gun.
_CAVEAT_
After the war a lot of these were sold off as surplus, with the barrels being cut back and the cylinder bored out to .38 Special. Try chambering a .38 Special. If it has been bored out it will fit, if not then it will not. Bored out guns should be shot with lead only standard pressure loads, avoid jacketed or +P marked rounds, the chambers will be overbore and bulged or split cases are a possibility. If the locking lug under the barrel, at the end of the ejector rod is missing then I personally wouldn't shoot it at all.
Stamping of Model numbers began in 1957 at serial number 125000. So late 1956 or early 1957 for your Chiefs Special.
Tex62:
The British .380 revolver round was a .38 S&W case loaded with a 200 grain lead projectile, then later with a 178 grain jacketed projectile. Modern .38 S&W is perfectly safe to shoot in your gun.
_CAVEAT_
After the war a lot of these were sold off as surplus, with the barrels being cut back and the cylinder bored out to .38 Special. Try chambering a .38 Special. If it has been bored out it will fit, if not then it will not. Bored out guns should be shot with lead only standard pressure loads, avoid jacketed or +P marked rounds, the chambers will be overbore and bulged or split cases are a possibility. If the locking lug under the barrel, at the end of the ejector rod is missing then I personally wouldn't shoot it at all.
Radagast
Member
Cool. I've yet to hear of a problem with standard pressure lead ammo. Emulate that in your loads and you should be fine.
Charles Alexander
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Another S&W 38 CTG
Good morning:
New member with a question for this thread.
I am one of many here who has inherited an old S&W 38 CTG.
In my case, it belonged to my father who I believe never used it.
I recall his telling me a friend gave it to him in the early 50's.
It is chrome or nickel plated, with the plating in regular state. It seems to have been disassembled at one point and is missing the trigger.
The answer to the questions I have seen on the thread are the following:
Q: Does the gun have a S&W logo stamped on the frame or the grips?
Yes, on the right side.
Q: Is it a five or six shot?
It is a five shot.
Q: What is the barrel length measured from the muzzle to the cylinder?
The barrel length is 114,6mm long, close enough to 4.50".
Q: Does the cylinder swing out to the side or does the barrel tilt down ...
Barrel tilts down and ejects the cartridges.
Q: Is the stamping on the barrel .38 S&W CTG or .38 Special CTG ...
The stamping on the barrel reads "-> 38 S. & W. CTG <- ".
Q: cylinder length
The cylinder measures 30,7 mm.
The back of the cylinder has the serial number stamped on it: 454739
Q: Look on top of the barrel and see if some patent dates are stamped there.
The stamping on top of the barrel reads:
SMITH & WESSON SPRINGFIELD MASS. U.S.A.
PAT'D MAY 11 1880 JAN. 3 1882 APRIL 9 1889
Q: Is the rear sight adjustable or just a notch in the topstrap?
The rear sight is a double protuberation on the clasp securing the barrel in the tilt down mechanism.
Q: What material are the stocks made of ...
The stocks are made from what seems to be walnut, the grips have a checkered pattern with a thin black paint which is peeling off and the grips are rounded.
Q: Look at the number on the butt ...
The serial number stamped on the butt is 454739, no letters.
Q: Model number if it is under the crane.
There is no model number there.
I'd appreciate it if you could give me some information on this handgun.
Thanks in advance,
CA.
Good morning:
New member with a question for this thread.
I am one of many here who has inherited an old S&W 38 CTG.
In my case, it belonged to my father who I believe never used it.
I recall his telling me a friend gave it to him in the early 50's.
It is chrome or nickel plated, with the plating in regular state. It seems to have been disassembled at one point and is missing the trigger.
The answer to the questions I have seen on the thread are the following:
Q: Does the gun have a S&W logo stamped on the frame or the grips?
Yes, on the right side.
Q: Is it a five or six shot?
It is a five shot.
Q: What is the barrel length measured from the muzzle to the cylinder?
The barrel length is 114,6mm long, close enough to 4.50".
Q: Does the cylinder swing out to the side or does the barrel tilt down ...
Barrel tilts down and ejects the cartridges.
Q: Is the stamping on the barrel .38 S&W CTG or .38 Special CTG ...
The stamping on the barrel reads "-> 38 S. & W. CTG <- ".
Q: cylinder length
The cylinder measures 30,7 mm.
The back of the cylinder has the serial number stamped on it: 454739
Q: Look on top of the barrel and see if some patent dates are stamped there.
The stamping on top of the barrel reads:
SMITH & WESSON SPRINGFIELD MASS. U.S.A.
PAT'D MAY 11 1880 JAN. 3 1882 APRIL 9 1889
Q: Is the rear sight adjustable or just a notch in the topstrap?
The rear sight is a double protuberation on the clasp securing the barrel in the tilt down mechanism.
Q: What material are the stocks made of ...
The stocks are made from what seems to be walnut, the grips have a checkered pattern with a thin black paint which is peeling off and the grips are rounded.
Q: Look at the number on the butt ...
The serial number stamped on the butt is 454739, no letters.
Q: Model number if it is under the crane.
There is no model number there.
I'd appreciate it if you could give me some information on this handgun.
Thanks in advance,
CA.
Radagast
Member
Charles Alexander:
You have a .38 Double Action 4th Model manufactured between 1898 (serial no.382022) & 1905 (serial no.486000). Production seemed to average around 16000 guns per year for the life of that model, so 1903 seems likely.
It is a blackpowder only firearm, modern smokeless ammunition has a different pressure curve and will wear the gun more rapidly. It is loaded to the same maximum pressure, so occasional use may be ok.
If you do get it working, treat it as a 4 shooter with the chamber under the hammer left empty - the firing pin protrudes and could set off a round if the gun was dropped.
Parts can be had here:
https://www.gunpartscorp.com/Manufa...olvers-42026/38DoubleActionRevolver-38376.htm
Not many gunsmiths are willing to work on these, but if you are handy you may be able to get it going.
Value is not great, $250 or so in excellent condition.
You have a .38 Double Action 4th Model manufactured between 1898 (serial no.382022) & 1905 (serial no.486000). Production seemed to average around 16000 guns per year for the life of that model, so 1903 seems likely.
It is a blackpowder only firearm, modern smokeless ammunition has a different pressure curve and will wear the gun more rapidly. It is loaded to the same maximum pressure, so occasional use may be ok.
If you do get it working, treat it as a 4 shooter with the chamber under the hammer left empty - the firing pin protrudes and could set off a round if the gun was dropped.
Parts can be had here:
https://www.gunpartscorp.com/Manufa...olvers-42026/38DoubleActionRevolver-38376.htm
Not many gunsmiths are willing to work on these, but if you are handy you may be able to get it going.
Value is not great, $250 or so in excellent condition.
