Newtosavage
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While you guys are spending all your rounds of ammo in the neighborhood, I'll be on my way to less populated territory.
May the best trapper win.
LOL
May the best trapper win.
LOL
You could always consider a manually operated AR-15, like they have in England. No gas system.
I’d imagine it would be fine. I’d imagine a 12 gauge would be better. I’d also imagine if you are taking 50 yard shots in defense of home.....you are probably going to jail.
The feds are not going to ban AR15's at least not in the next 6 years. And it'll be a very big fight if they ever try, as there are millions of them in private citizens hands.
Now California that's a different story, he's operating on borrowed time down there with AR15's; but don't give up, support CALGUNS and the like and fight back on the legislation. Even if they are banned in California, he will be given time to sell out of state anyways. I say enjoy them while he can and save up to buy a lever, as it would be the next best thing to an autoloader in my opinion.
It isn't just CA. WA and OR are going the same direction. The AR bills keep popping up in the dem controlled legislatures ( along with Initiatives) and both states have dem governors. I don't see that changing.
For over 30 years I have had a small rack of Winchester 94s. I have never owned an AR and never will. A .44 Mag. lever gun with a 300 gr. bullet can put some serious hurt on a bad guy (or several bad guys). Some production lever guns today may need some minor tuning for 100% reliability though. Sometimes you get lucky. Every man should own a couple or three.
Naturally the rate of fire is slower, but a sight better than a bolt action in less than expert hands.
You could always consider a manually operated AR-15, like they have in England. No gas system.
Exactly. I never understood the carbine thing for home defense. Inside they're less maneuverable than a pistol, outside they're great except you really don't need to shoot bad guys 100 yds away or even 50. I think people watch too many action movies where carbines are deployed to enhance the fire power effect. If you can't train or don't want to train with a pistol, buy a shotgun with an 18" barrel, but some amount of training is also required with those. They aren't for everyone because recoil is substantial.
I have a few carbines and a shotgun with an 18" barrel but my choice for HD is a P229 Sig with night sights and a spare mag. Ammo is cheap and I train with it once a month.
I don't really prescribe to the SHTF scenario but I have all the tools if I'm wrong. I just like carbines in all forms, always have.
AR's are okay out here, but they have to be neutered.I was under the impression AR's and the like were already PNG there. I assume an original fixed mag SKS is acceptable? It's a darn shame what US citizens have to go through in Ca. I have a good friend that lives there (for now).
I don't know if the SKS is legal in California, but I do own one and I'd go to it first, though, if it was.
Ruger PC9 carbine (cheap sacrifice in the event of a real semi-auto ban, works with my Glock mags)
One bill would expand California's assault weapon definition to include high-powered semi-automatic rifles without fixed magazines, though most .22 rifles would be excluded.