bhk
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Just curious, which STATES have state-wide leash laws? Mine (Missouri) does not.
If someone shot your dog
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bhk
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Sorry for double post.
California, the state is always 'cracking down' (lol) because on jogging trails there are always a**holes who let their dogs run ahead free. I can't tell you how freaking annoying it is to try and jog and have dogs running up to you. I don't care if your dog is a saint, please don't assume "Leash your animal!" doesn't apply to your 'cuddly' pet.
I get angry when people leave their dogs free in an area with other people. You can't control how people will react, but you CAN CONTROL your dog. Do it.
I get angry when people leave their dogs free in an area with other people. You can't control how people will react, but you CAN CONTROL your dog. Do it.
Bentley8
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My girlfriend and I were walking Zorro, our 18-mo black lab, in a state park last weekend. Hanging Rock state park in North Carolina, as a matter of fact.
We were coming down from the top of Hanging Rock and all three of us were getting tired. We were on a gravel path when out of the blue a rough collie showed up behind Zorro and sniffed his butt. It was off leash. It was completely silent and surprised all of us.
At first Zorro and the collie just sniffed each other. Zorro is on a 6-foot leash and although a little high-strung, he loves to play with other dogs. I expected him to just sniff and maybe do a little play stance, but that nothing would come of it, just like the hundreds of other times he's met a dog on a walk. Suddenly, the collie bares his teeth and chomps on Zorros neck. Not a play bite, but an aggressive attack. Zorro responds instinctively. Instantly we've got an intense dog fight on our hands. I've seen a hundred dominance fights at the dog park, but this was completely different. 100% aggression. Snarling like I'd never heard before.
My girlfriend was holding Zorro's leash so he had nowhere to go and when the two dogs knocked her down she dropped the leash. My testosterone and adrenalin kicked in. I did a stupid thing. I jumped between them, grabbed the collie by the fur and skin on the back of the neck and forced it to the ground, putting my full upper body weight and strength on it. As soon as I took it down it went limp and started panting. I think I was growling.
Zorro came around and started to snap at the collie's ears and I called him off, and my girlfriend got him by his leash and pulled him away.
Whole thing took less than 10 seconds but felt much longer.
The owner showed up about a half-minute later, which was a good thing as I didn't know what I could do with this dog. At the point I'd demonstrated dominance it went limp and was making no trouble, but I didn't dare take my hands off him.
The owner had heard the dog fight and came running. He apologized and gave the excuse that he didn't think anyone was back there and thought it would be OK. I don't remember what I said, the adrenalin was still buzzing through my brain stem and I was a little hazy on my language skills. I may have grunted.
He got his collie on a retractable leash and went the other way. It wasn't until a little later that I noticed that my jacket sleeve around my forearms was all slobbered on. My girlfriend said that the collie had clamped his jaws on my arm when I grabbed him. I was so pumped I didn't even feel it. The cloth and my skin were not pierced so I don't think it was that hard of a bite.
So, we were attacked by Lassie and I took Lassie down!
I'm glad nobody got physically hurt, but it could have wound up a whole lot worse. It's bad enough that for the past week when we take Zorro on a walk he's a lot more wary of other dogs and he has nightmares every night. He's also more clingy with me than he used to be. I hope that he gets over it, but I think the whole thing scared him senseless.
Firearms are not allowed at that state park, so it's not like I could have shot it. If I was armed I don't think my instincts would have been to use a gun, anyway. I reverted back to my neanderthal roots and just grabbed the beast and thumped it to the ground.
We never let Zorro off leash. Even when I take him to a dog friendly beach I've got him on a long line. It's not that I think he'll attack anyone, but I do think a lot of people fear black dogs like him and he'd scare people. Also, if he saw a squirrel he'd chase it into the next county and we'd never see him again. It's hard to fight a dogs prey instinct. Leashes are cheap.
Just as an aside, here's video of Zorro at the beach last month. He's afraid of water (he's a Hurricane Katrina rescue) so we've been getting him more and more exposed to it in a positive manner.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=45frxhOs0Bw
We were coming down from the top of Hanging Rock and all three of us were getting tired. We were on a gravel path when out of the blue a rough collie showed up behind Zorro and sniffed his butt. It was off leash. It was completely silent and surprised all of us.
At first Zorro and the collie just sniffed each other. Zorro is on a 6-foot leash and although a little high-strung, he loves to play with other dogs. I expected him to just sniff and maybe do a little play stance, but that nothing would come of it, just like the hundreds of other times he's met a dog on a walk. Suddenly, the collie bares his teeth and chomps on Zorros neck. Not a play bite, but an aggressive attack. Zorro responds instinctively. Instantly we've got an intense dog fight on our hands. I've seen a hundred dominance fights at the dog park, but this was completely different. 100% aggression. Snarling like I'd never heard before.
My girlfriend was holding Zorro's leash so he had nowhere to go and when the two dogs knocked her down she dropped the leash. My testosterone and adrenalin kicked in. I did a stupid thing. I jumped between them, grabbed the collie by the fur and skin on the back of the neck and forced it to the ground, putting my full upper body weight and strength on it. As soon as I took it down it went limp and started panting. I think I was growling.
Zorro came around and started to snap at the collie's ears and I called him off, and my girlfriend got him by his leash and pulled him away.
Whole thing took less than 10 seconds but felt much longer.
The owner showed up about a half-minute later, which was a good thing as I didn't know what I could do with this dog. At the point I'd demonstrated dominance it went limp and was making no trouble, but I didn't dare take my hands off him.
The owner had heard the dog fight and came running. He apologized and gave the excuse that he didn't think anyone was back there and thought it would be OK. I don't remember what I said, the adrenalin was still buzzing through my brain stem and I was a little hazy on my language skills. I may have grunted.
He got his collie on a retractable leash and went the other way. It wasn't until a little later that I noticed that my jacket sleeve around my forearms was all slobbered on. My girlfriend said that the collie had clamped his jaws on my arm when I grabbed him. I was so pumped I didn't even feel it. The cloth and my skin were not pierced so I don't think it was that hard of a bite.
So, we were attacked by Lassie and I took Lassie down!
I'm glad nobody got physically hurt, but it could have wound up a whole lot worse. It's bad enough that for the past week when we take Zorro on a walk he's a lot more wary of other dogs and he has nightmares every night. He's also more clingy with me than he used to be. I hope that he gets over it, but I think the whole thing scared him senseless.
Firearms are not allowed at that state park, so it's not like I could have shot it. If I was armed I don't think my instincts would have been to use a gun, anyway. I reverted back to my neanderthal roots and just grabbed the beast and thumped it to the ground.
We never let Zorro off leash. Even when I take him to a dog friendly beach I've got him on a long line. It's not that I think he'll attack anyone, but I do think a lot of people fear black dogs like him and he'd scare people. Also, if he saw a squirrel he'd chase it into the next county and we'd never see him again. It's hard to fight a dogs prey instinct. Leashes are cheap.
Just as an aside, here's video of Zorro at the beach last month. He's afraid of water (he's a Hurricane Katrina rescue) so we've been getting him more and more exposed to it in a positive manner.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=45frxhOs0Bw
I love dogs and would not like to see one killed unnecessarily.
However, if I am on public property, or my own and you approach with your dog unleashed (where there are leash laws), then I assume you mean me harm either through arrogant negligence or malicisous intent. The law will support me shooting your dog if necessary.
If you feel offended and draw on me then the law will not support you and you better hope you are faster drawing against an already drawn gun.
If you care so much about your darn dog then either move to the country where there are no leash laws, or put it on a leash. Anything else and you are an arrogant SOB that puts other people, their pets, and your sorry dog at risk. people that own dogs keep them off leash and arer eady to draw on people that take offense at that are crimes waiting to happen and arrogant beyond belief.
I now live in the suburbs and have chosen not to own a dog. It kills me because I grew up with dogs as loyal, fun pals. But I couldn't own one and keep it yarded or leashed so I just don't have one. If you own a dog in the city or burbs, then you have a responsibility to have it well fenced and walk it frequently on leash. If you don't then you don't deserve to own such fine animals.
I also ride bike and jog and am fed up with jerks that like to let their pooch run off leash in parks, trails, and around the neighborhood. At the same time, the vast majority of dog owners truly love their dogs and follow all the laws and their dogs probably live long, happy lives.
However, if I am on public property, or my own and you approach with your dog unleashed (where there are leash laws), then I assume you mean me harm either through arrogant negligence or malicisous intent. The law will support me shooting your dog if necessary.
If you feel offended and draw on me then the law will not support you and you better hope you are faster drawing against an already drawn gun.
If you care so much about your darn dog then either move to the country where there are no leash laws, or put it on a leash. Anything else and you are an arrogant SOB that puts other people, their pets, and your sorry dog at risk. people that own dogs keep them off leash and arer eady to draw on people that take offense at that are crimes waiting to happen and arrogant beyond belief.
I now live in the suburbs and have chosen not to own a dog. It kills me because I grew up with dogs as loyal, fun pals. But I couldn't own one and keep it yarded or leashed so I just don't have one. If you own a dog in the city or burbs, then you have a responsibility to have it well fenced and walk it frequently on leash. If you don't then you don't deserve to own such fine animals.
I also ride bike and jog and am fed up with jerks that like to let their pooch run off leash in parks, trails, and around the neighborhood. At the same time, the vast majority of dog owners truly love their dogs and follow all the laws and their dogs probably live long, happy lives.
Thanks for all your replys about this subject . I understand and respect all points of view . But , no matter what anyone thinks or says or what leash laws there are . I don't think a dog being off leash should be a death sentence for the dog unless it attacks/bites someone .
I just want to add that my dog is ALWAYS on a leash except when I take her to a park where other people take their dogs to run off leash and play with other dogs . When I'm hiking in the woods I take her off the leash because there is no one else around . Sometimes I take her off the leash when I'm just walking around if ther is no one else in sight . Dogs need to run around sometimes . If I do run into other people , with or without dogs , I call her to me and restrain her and ask if they are ok with my dog before I let her go .
I was walking my dog on a 6' leash when a jerk walking by us about 12' away [ he didn't have to walk that close to us ] swung at the dog with his walking stick grumbling something about damn dogs . I told the jerk if he tryed that again he would be eating his walking stick . If he had reached over far enough to hit the dog , I would have beat the crap out of him . Another time in a park where people bring their dogs to run and play off leash . A woman who was cross country skiing went right through the group of people and their dogs and hit one of the dogs with her ski pole and said they should be on leash's . Lucky for her it wasn't my dog . These are the types of people I was thinking about when I started the thread .
I've been a dog owner for many years and come across many dogs and owners . I've come to the conclusion that there are no bad dogs , just bad owners .
I just want to add that my dog is ALWAYS on a leash except when I take her to a park where other people take their dogs to run off leash and play with other dogs . When I'm hiking in the woods I take her off the leash because there is no one else around . Sometimes I take her off the leash when I'm just walking around if ther is no one else in sight . Dogs need to run around sometimes . If I do run into other people , with or without dogs , I call her to me and restrain her and ask if they are ok with my dog before I let her go .
I was walking my dog on a 6' leash when a jerk walking by us about 12' away [ he didn't have to walk that close to us ] swung at the dog with his walking stick grumbling something about damn dogs . I told the jerk if he tryed that again he would be eating his walking stick . If he had reached over far enough to hit the dog , I would have beat the crap out of him . Another time in a park where people bring their dogs to run and play off leash . A woman who was cross country skiing went right through the group of people and their dogs and hit one of the dogs with her ski pole and said they should be on leash's . Lucky for her it wasn't my dog . These are the types of people I was thinking about when I started the thread .
I've been a dog owner for many years and come across many dogs and owners . I've come to the conclusion that there are no bad dogs , just bad owners .
Just be aware that as a dog owner you are responsible for all actions of your dog, and if it is off leash you are assuming the risk.
Other people have no responsibility to give you room. In fact, I am ticked off at dog owners that take up the whole path with their dogs and assume I should make room for them. I will walk where I darn well please and if your mutt gets in my way then I will walk over it, kick it, or whatever is necessary if it or you don't like it. But I am NOT moving out of the way for a mutt.
In my world you and your dog get as much space as I would give you. You can either move your dog to the other side out of my way or take whatever happens if it gets under my feet. If you take aggressive action toward me for not giving your dog space then you are the aggressor and had better be ready to be fast and better than me and whoever I am with. If you live to make it to court then you will have a tough time explaining your self. "But your honor, I shot the SOB because he tried to kick my dog."
Your dog has no rights and if you try to enforce imaginary rights you are in the wrong and others my just call your bluff. Learn to swallow your darn pride and MOVE your dog out of the way of PEOPLE. Escalating such a situation to a shooting of a human is ridiculous and demonstrates unbelievable arrogance and stupidity.
Other people have no responsibility to give you room. In fact, I am ticked off at dog owners that take up the whole path with their dogs and assume I should make room for them. I will walk where I darn well please and if your mutt gets in my way then I will walk over it, kick it, or whatever is necessary if it or you don't like it. But I am NOT moving out of the way for a mutt.
In my world you and your dog get as much space as I would give you. You can either move your dog to the other side out of my way or take whatever happens if it gets under my feet. If you take aggressive action toward me for not giving your dog space then you are the aggressor and had better be ready to be fast and better than me and whoever I am with. If you live to make it to court then you will have a tough time explaining your self. "But your honor, I shot the SOB because he tried to kick my dog."
Your dog has no rights and if you try to enforce imaginary rights you are in the wrong and others my just call your bluff. Learn to swallow your darn pride and MOVE your dog out of the way of PEOPLE. Escalating such a situation to a shooting of a human is ridiculous and demonstrates unbelievable arrogance and stupidity.
Sheldon J
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What would I do!
I would ask which family member was irresponsible and let it out to run loose, and I would hope it had not done any damage that I get sued for not having in under my control.
I would ask which family member was irresponsible and let it out to run loose, and I would hope it had not done any damage that I get sued for not having in under my control.
RevolvingCylinder
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I see the same mindset and bigotry here as with anti-gunners. It's funny how some choose which the statist propaganda that they will be programmed by.
When my dog is out and about he is always next to me. I guess I'm really weird in the aspect that if anyone aims a weapon anywhere in my general direction, they will get lethal lead injections as I feel that it is a threat on my life.
Run & Shoot --- I never implied that I would shoot anyone for kicking my dog . I would defend my dog like I might defend a buddy that someone sucker punched or a girlfriend that was being harrassed or groped or something . In the 2 examples I gave about the people tyring to hit or hitting the dog , the people intentionaly went out of their way to provoke an incedent . If I'm walking my dog on a leash and some jerk comes toward me and my dog to try to start something , how am I not being responsible ? The place where I was walking my dog when the jerk took a swing at it with his walking stick was an empty parking area . He had no reason to come anywhere near us . He was obviously a disturbed or very stupid person or both because my dog was a german sheapard and [ I'm not trying to be some sort of tough guy ] I look like a person you might not want to mess with .
However , like I said before , If someone took a shot at my dog [ who is always very close to me and ALWAYS in my control ] I would feel that my life was also in danger and I would take appropriate action .
However , like I said before , If someone took a shot at my dog [ who is always very close to me and ALWAYS in my control ] I would feel that my life was also in danger and I would take appropriate action .
beaucoup ammo
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Get an indoor cat..or perhaps a hampster.
CrackerJim
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I see only a couple of people recognize that you can't tell a dog's intentions by the fact it "seems" friendly. What starts as tail wagging and sniffing can change quickly for no appearent reason.
I was walking in our neighborhood when a hound dog came out from the garage of a house. I was in the street. It came up looking very friendly and was sniffing at me. As it circled to my rear quarter, it suddenly leaped and snapped my upper leg. Although I'm not particularly afraid of dogs, I was on my guard and spun as he attacked. Luckly, I was just fast enough that all he got was a chunk of my pants and a kick to the side of the head as I came around.
The owner came out apoligising profusely but what would have happened if it had been a child or an elderly person walking along that may not have been as wary or as quick?
As has been pointed out, know one can know their dog 100%....please keep them leashed or fenced etc.
Jim
I was walking in our neighborhood when a hound dog came out from the garage of a house. I was in the street. It came up looking very friendly and was sniffing at me. As it circled to my rear quarter, it suddenly leaped and snapped my upper leg. Although I'm not particularly afraid of dogs, I was on my guard and spun as he attacked. Luckly, I was just fast enough that all he got was a chunk of my pants and a kick to the side of the head as I came around.
The owner came out apoligising profusely but what would have happened if it had been a child or an elderly person walking along that may not have been as wary or as quick?
As has been pointed out, know one can know their dog 100%....please keep them leashed or fenced etc.
Jim
PistolNewbie
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I am an avid walker/runner and it galls the hell out of me when folks allow their dogs on a leash get too close to me. For some reason some people think that their dog(s) take presidence and they can hog the whole sidewalk or trail. I am almost always the one who has to move out of the dog's way! 
Dogs not on a leash are another story. It amazes the hell out of me that every time there is a story of a dog attacking a person or another dog, etc and the dog is destroyed, or somebody decides to take the law into their own hands to protect their property and family, many people take the side of the dog and/or owner. I just don't get it! :banghead: I don't own a dog and I do love animals.
Dogs not on a leash are another story. It amazes the hell out of me that every time there is a story of a dog attacking a person or another dog, etc and the dog is destroyed, or somebody decides to take the law into their own hands to protect their property and family, many people take the side of the dog and/or owner. I just don't get it! :banghead: I don't own a dog and I do love animals.JerryM
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[. If someone was crazy enough to shoot my dog when she was within 20' feet of me and obviously under my control I would also feel that my life was in danger , wouldn't you ?]
NO, and if you used deadly force against the shooter be prepared to go to jail, or at least spend $50,000 - $250,000 for lawyers.
No dog is worth it.
Jerry
NO, and if you used deadly force against the shooter be prepared to go to jail, or at least spend $50,000 - $250,000 for lawyers.
No dog is worth it.
Jerry
Bottom line if ones not on their property and in an area where a leash is required, use it; the next one will not get this opportunity. One of those sweet little well groomed Border Collies not on a leash and within 10 feet of its owner took a piece out of my side for no reason what so ever. Just ran up and jumped up and bit me. Next time the dog goes home on the short end and I won’t have to get a tetanus shot, antibiotic shot and be on antibiotics for 10 additional days because of a negligent pet owner. Not to mention 2 follow-up appointments because of infection to the tune of about $250.00 of my money.
JerryM
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I bet none has ever noticed that "My dog is well mannered and under my control. He would never bite unprovoked."
"My child has been taught right and wrong, and would not have done those things."??
Keep your dog up, and truly on a leash and under control, and you won't have to say such baloney. Be nice also if you would pick up after him when walking in the park, etc.
Jerry
"My child has been taught right and wrong, and would not have done those things."??
Keep your dog up, and truly on a leash and under control, and you won't have to say such baloney. Be nice also if you would pick up after him when walking in the park, etc.
Jerry
If you sir have a German Shepard unleashed outside a fenced area it is not in your control. Whether you are around or not, if your unrestrained dog (especially of a large breed) is drawn upon/shot because it got close enough to someone armed who was deemed it a threat then YOU are the one at fault. Insinuating that you would shoot a human for shooting your unrestrained dog is some really warped thinking IMO.
I don't believe there are folks walking around looking to shoot dogs just for kicks in public areas. The dog owner's idea of whether an unrestrained dog is a threat to another person is irrelevant should that person think differently.
Elza
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I would recommend caution in regards to shooting a dog. A friend of mine shot the neighbors dog. It was on his property chasing his daughter. He was cited, fined and ordered to pay the vet bills on the dog. Not to mention what it cost him in lawyer’s fees. He lives outside of the city limits. This all came from the county.
According to our local Barney squad shooting a dog will land you in jail. One cop told me on the QT that it is possible to get away with it but only if it is on your property. Walking down the street doesn’t count.
I have quit walking my dogs because of the loose (and often aggressive) dogs running around. The city won’t do anything about them. The loss of large sums of money, the weapon, and possibly my CHL just isn’t worth the risk. Amazing place, Texas. I can shoot a human in self defense but not a dog. Go figure…………
According to our local Barney squad shooting a dog will land you in jail. One cop told me on the QT that it is possible to get away with it but only if it is on your property. Walking down the street doesn’t count.
I have quit walking my dogs because of the loose (and often aggressive) dogs running around. The city won’t do anything about them. The loss of large sums of money, the weapon, and possibly my CHL just isn’t worth the risk. Amazing place, Texas. I can shoot a human in self defense but not a dog. Go figure…………
busy_squirrel
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When I was younger and dumber, two of my brotthers kept calling the family dog over and shooting it with BB guns that didn't penetrate but got plenty of yelps. 
I kept chastising them. After over 30 min.s of this I snuck up on one with a higher powered BB gun. As soon as he shot the dog again, I opened the front door and shot his calf from <4 ft.
Doctor said if he operated my brother would have a permanent limp as the BB was stuck between his calf-muscle and the backside of his shin. It's still in there 10 yrs. later.
Overkill? Probably, but they never shot the dogs again.
There was a dog shooting in the quiet community of Lynden, Wa. a couple weeks ago. Looks justified as the dogs repeatedly attacked a lady in the mall parking lot after being driven off.
I kept chastising them. After over 30 min.s of this I snuck up on one with a higher powered BB gun. As soon as he shot the dog again, I opened the front door and shot his calf from <4 ft.
Doctor said if he operated my brother would have a permanent limp as the BB was stuck between his calf-muscle and the backside of his shin. It's still in there 10 yrs. later.Overkill? Probably, but they never shot the dogs again.
There was a dog shooting in the quiet community of Lynden, Wa. a couple weeks ago. Looks justified as the dogs repeatedly attacked a lady in the mall parking lot after being driven off.
Some of you have gotten the wrong idea from my posts . Please read the posts and try not to read something into them [ARTiger]. Yes I sometimes let my dog off the leash but I'm VERY carefull about when and where I do it . She stays very close to me . If someone started shooting at her I feel there would be a very good chance I would also be hit .
If she did attack or bite someone for no reason and they shot her then , YES , I would be guilty and take full responsability .
Just because she is a german shepard that doesn't mean she is more likely to attack someone than any other dog is . In fact the most vicious dogs I've encounterd have been the miniature /toy dogs . Would you feel it was necasary to shoot one of those if it attacked you ?
There are people who would hurt or shoot a dog for no GOOD reason or for some sick , twisted reason . Like I said in the original thread , the people who shot the dogs , IMO , were trigger happy jackass's .
If she did attack or bite someone for no reason and they shot her then , YES , I would be guilty and take full responsability .
Just because she is a german shepard that doesn't mean she is more likely to attack someone than any other dog is . In fact the most vicious dogs I've encounterd have been the miniature /toy dogs . Would you feel it was necasary to shoot one of those if it attacked you ?
There are people who would hurt or shoot a dog for no GOOD reason or for some sick , twisted reason . Like I said in the original thread , the people who shot the dogs , IMO , were trigger happy jackass's .
Really?
This is nonsense IMO… If one is in an area where a leash is required then one is breaking the law when;
Oh, I see, one can choose when the leash law really applies to them.
That makes me feel better.
I do not want to hurt or injure any animal. I like all animals. Personally I think in many respects they’re much more intelligent the humans.
Now this is twisted. I can’t believe anybody walks around just waiting to be charged with a felony and loose CCW permit for shooting a stray or loose animal. It’s not the dog/animals fault. Quite frankly it would make me sick to have to hurt a dog because its owner really didn’t have it under control.
You’re entitled to your opinion.
I really do not believe I read anything extra into these quotes taken from your posts nor do I believe I’ve taken them out of context.
dralarms
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I don't own a dog, I did growing up but not since I had a wolf/malamute mix while in Wa state.
Too much trouble to deal with I don't have a fence and WILL NOT have an animal (other than the son in law) in my house, and I do not feel it's right to chain an animal up constantly.
That being said I did kill my neighbors dog 2 or 3 years ago. I came home to 2 dogs digging at the front of my wife's van, absolutely trying to get at what ever was under there, I went and got my shot gun and fire a round into the air, 1 dog split, the other went about 30 ft and stopped and looked at me, well in trying to scare her off I shot too low and killed her, it was an accident, she was a very lovable dog except when it came to cats (turns out they were trying to get my cat at the time).
The only time I have intentionally tried to kill a dog is some of my neighbors keeps and FIGHTS PIT BULLS, well when they get loose anything that moves is a target so every time I see one I do my dead level best to eliminate the problem, the only problem is most of the time I have my side arm not the shotgun, it's kinda hard to hit one with a handgun when it knows you are after it.
I have warned the guy time and time again to keep them put up, even had the cops called on me once, told the officer that if the suckers came in my yard I would put them down without a thought. He said "it's your property, you have the RIGHT to protect it anyway you need to. what kind of guns do you collect?" then we proceeded to talk about 45 Min's to an hour about all kinds of guns. He even made a record of the "visit" so that if I did kill one of the dogs there was a record that we had vicious dogs in the area.
Too much trouble to deal with I don't have a fence and WILL NOT have an animal (other than the son in law) in my house, and I do not feel it's right to chain an animal up constantly.
That being said I did kill my neighbors dog 2 or 3 years ago. I came home to 2 dogs digging at the front of my wife's van, absolutely trying to get at what ever was under there, I went and got my shot gun and fire a round into the air, 1 dog split, the other went about 30 ft and stopped and looked at me, well in trying to scare her off I shot too low and killed her, it was an accident, she was a very lovable dog except when it came to cats (turns out they were trying to get my cat at the time).
The only time I have intentionally tried to kill a dog is some of my neighbors keeps and FIGHTS PIT BULLS, well when they get loose anything that moves is a target so every time I see one I do my dead level best to eliminate the problem, the only problem is most of the time I have my side arm not the shotgun, it's kinda hard to hit one with a handgun when it knows you are after it.
I have warned the guy time and time again to keep them put up, even had the cops called on me once, told the officer that if the suckers came in my yard I would put them down without a thought. He said "it's your property, you have the RIGHT to protect it anyway you need to. what kind of guns do you collect?" then we proceeded to talk about 45 Min's to an hour about all kinds of guns. He even made a record of the "visit" so that if I did kill one of the dogs there was a record that we had vicious dogs in the area.
Hokkmike
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In PA if you shoot your own dog you could be fined up to $700.00. The only dog shooting that I think is justified is if it is actually attacking you (or others) and/or chasing deer.
Roadwild17
Member
I got a friend who had his dog shot while ON a leash, it was on one of those 20ft leash things. The @$$ was getting out of his car, drew and fired. From what I take it he didn't see the leash and my friend was about 9ft behind his dog in the isle of the Pet Co parking lot. So far the guy has had his gun taken away (neglect discharge) his CHL permanently revoked, had has had to pay for a new dog, all the shots, and a few months of training classes (all of which my friend was able to prove he had invested in his dog).
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