If you had to choose one caliber to hunt all North American game which do you choose?

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I'd have to say 30-06 also.

For hunting in North America, I can't see needing anything bigger. Not counting Grizzlies.
 
9.3x62 or .35 Whelen.


I'd pick .270 Win, were it not for the great bears.


.375 H&H is a classic and a contender, but perhaps overkill, IMO. 9.3x62 is almost as capable as .375 H&H, but with noticable less recoil, and function in a standard length action. .35 Whelen is just behind 9.3x62.
 
what happens when you shoot a squirrel or rabbit with a 30-06?

Old technique called "barking" is used to take smaller game with larger calibers, when one is wanting to fell a critter for meat.

I have taken squirrel, wabbit, and dove for instance, using a Model 70 in '06 , for meat.
 
I'd have to say 30-06 also.

For hunting in North America, I can't see needing anything bigger. Not counting Grizzlies.

Since when Grizzlies wear body armor capable of stopping a 30-06 round???

Thirty-Augh-Six hands down.....
 
Since when Grizzlies wear body armor capable of stopping a 30-06 round???

I'm not saying it wouldn't do the job, but it wouldn't be my first choice if I was hunting them either. ;)
 
I'm not saying it wouldn't do the job, but it wouldn't be my first choice if I was hunting them either.

All depends on the load...definitely I would not feel very comfortable with your run of the mill 150 gr. el cheapo whitetail load (Core Lokt, Winchester, etc...)

Premium partitions 180 gr. and up are a total different story....they are capable of quite some numbers on tough game....
 
270, it gives you more flexibility with bullet weights and is flatter shooting than the '06 for game that has to be taken at distance.
 
Re: Barking.

> >Drift

waterhouse,
Yes you are correct.

Forgive the drift, still I have received a number of PMs about this, so allow me to answer in this thread to those I have yet to reply with a PM, and to have here in this thread for future use.

You catch the small game near a tree, and shoot the tree, in a manner where the "bark" actually kills the small game.

Where this comes in handy is for serious situations while hunting, or in the woods.
For instance you get lost, or the weather has turned nasty in a heartbeat, now turning a hunting or trip in the woods into a survival situation.

It does not matter if center-fire rifle, or even shotgun, such as those restricted to using slugs only for deer , even a centerfire handgun, like your CCW can be used.

One keeps in mind 4 rules of gun safety, especially rule four - Always be sure of your target and know what is behind it along the bullet's trajectory.

One is using ricochet to fell the small game.

Trees are the most obvious, even stumps. However this technique works in snow/ice settings, shooting a "bank of snow-n-ice" and in more barren settings, (no trees) shooting a rock, or bank of hard dirt. Even shooting low of a critter will fell them, with throwing up debris and the force of the shot.

Not a game, instead a serious skill set for the tool box in case of need.

Along with this, one is to always have a knife on person. One can lose a sheathed knife (fixed or folder) falling down a hill, or being thrown from a horse, or other situations.

A small knife, just a pen knife, such as Case Peanut, is to always be in your pocket (as I was raised and mentored) and even the SAK Classic on your key ring can be a literal life saver.

For whatever reason you do not, or cannot make a snare or trap, you can "bark" a critter(s).
The small knife will remove a bullet, ( pellets or slug from shotgun shell) and allow you to use the gunpowder to make a fire, and make means to cook what "barked" , and clean the critter(s).

May I suggest some you folks Mentor this to new folks. I have received 11 PMs about this, since posting it earlier.

I also suggest using "dummy ctgs" , spent primer, bullet seated to practice the using of bullet for fire starting.

On a range with safe backstop, get a stump, and use small balloons to teach and practice this.
I have also used used small target outlines cut to critter shape, and size. One can see the ricochet "pattern" on the cardboard.


Back to our original thread .


Steve
 
Personal choices would be 45-70, 405 WCF than the 30-06. Actually, Nothing is wrong with the 50-70 but there are rather few of them.
 
30-06 for a all around gun. I don't think it can be beat. The 270 is nice as well, but I'll take my 06 instead.

Only reason I have two centerfire rifles was to have a carbine (45-70) for brush hunting.
 
Obviously, since the "GUN WRITERS SAY SO", the 30-06 is obsolete and nothing smaller than 300RUM should be used on any thing bigger than an elk. The 30-30 is no longer capable of taking moose(thats because the moose have been made bullet proof by reading GUN WRITERS. See where this goes? In Montana, 22 rimfire is legal for deer, in Idaho it must be 22 centerfire. Same game is tougher to kill in some states than in others.
Elmer Keith considered the 270 Winchester a pretty good coyote gun, but there were better calibers in his estimation.
Go figure!!!!!!
 
Really, they'll let you shoot with a .22 rimfire on deer?

To me that does seem too small, unless it was a .22 mag, and even then, I'd think at least a hornet should be used.

I know a .22LR will kill them (I've done it in a pinch on a wounded deer), but that takes some good shot placement, and I don't think that its really the most ethical way of taking the animal.
 
Since when Grizzlies wear body armor capable of stopping a 30-06 round???

Assuming the Grizz chooses fight over flight, that equation changes dramatically. You could surely KILL a bear with an '06. I would feel undergunned with an '06 to STOP a charge...

...then again, on the internet, the average bear hunters have more courage than I. ;)
 
Assuming the Grizz chooses fight over flight, that equation changes dramatically.

If you have a 30-06 with the proper loadings and you think you are undegunned against a grizzly, you need to work on your shooting skills not getting a bigger caliber....:rolleyes::D
 
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