If you're not an NRA member

Are you or are you NOT a member of the NRA?

  • Are you a member of the NRA?

    Votes: 71 60.2%
  • Are you NOT a member of the NRA?

    Votes: 47 39.8%

  • Total voters
    118
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Maximum1

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JOIN THE NRA TODAY

And if you don't join you give up the right to whine and complain when the antigunners take away your guns!
 
And don't complain about the junk mail. One phone call will stop all that.

Also, join SAF, GOA, CCRKBA, Pink Pistols, JPFO or at least one other group....
 
My state group, MCRGO, is phenomenal and stays more on top of things locally than the NRA (understandably). I get most of my info on current bills/events locally from MCRGO, but I'm also an NRA member. I strongly suggest joining BOTH the NRA AND a local state group for those reasons. That said, I think you should keep on top of the issues yourself as a firearms owner. The NRA does a lot of great things, but I find out about things faster on the internet usually b/c it takes time to churn out information from a large national group.

The NRA is the most powerful national watchdog for firearms owners.
Your state-based or local firearms organization is your state/local watchdog.

Then there's SAF, GOA, JPFO, etc.
 
NO WAY! :cuss: Here's one reason why:


Should Congress or the Courts Decide D.C. Gun Ban's Fate?
by Robert A. Levy

Robert A. Levy is senior fellow in constitutional studies and served as co-counsel to the plaintiffs in Parker v. District of Columbia.


Could the National Rifle Association and its allies in Congress be undermining the best pro-gun case ever likely to be reviewed by the U.S. Supreme Court?

More than four years ago, three attorneys and I filed Parker v. District of Columbia, a Second Amendment case on behalf of six local residents who want to defend themselves in their own homes.

For reasons that remain unclear, we faced repeated attempts by the NRA to derail the litigation. Happily, the case survived. On March 9, in a blockbuster opinion, the U.S. Court of Appeals for the D.C. Circuit overturned the city's gun ban — holding that "the Second Amendment protects an individual right to keep and bear arms."

Parker is the first federal appellate decision to invalidate a gun control statute on Second Amendment grounds. Federal circuit courts covering 47 states have held that there's no recourse under the Second Amendment when state and local gun regulations are challenged. That means Parker could be headed to the Supreme Court.

Enter Congress and the NRA. First, Reps. Mike Ross, D-Ark., and Mark Souder, R-Ind., introduced the D.C. Personal Protection Act. Then, on March 28, Sen. Kay Bailey Hutchison, R-Texas, followed suit in the Senate. Both bills, pushed hard by the NRA, would repeal the D.C. gun ban.

Ordinarily, that might be a good thing. But passage of the bills would kill the Parker litigation. It isn't possible to challenge a law that has been repealed. Yet, Sen. Hutchison claims in her press release that she favors "both a legislative and judicial remedy. I hope the Parker case goes before the Supreme Court and that the court asserts that the right to bear arms is an individual, and not a collective, right. ..."

Incredible.

When asked to clarify the NRA's position, CEO Wayne LaPierre told us in a private meeting, "You can take it to the bank. The NRA will not do anything to prevent the Supreme Court from reviewing Parker."

Maybe so, but actions speak louder than words. The NRA's aggressive promotion of the D.C. Personal Protection Act is baffling at best.

Parker is a much better vehicle to vindicate Second Amendment rights than an act of Congress. First, legislative repeal of the D.C. gun ban will not stop criminal defense attorneys and Public Defenders from citing the Second Amendment when they challenge "felon in possession" charges. Thus, if Parker is derailed, the next Second Amendment case to reach the Supreme Court could feature a murderer or drug dealer instead of six law-abiding citizens.

Second, a bill aimed at D.C. does only part of the job. It could be repealed by a more liberal Congress. And it will have no effect on state law outside of D.C. In effect, those who support the D.C. Personal Protection Act will be opposing an unambiguous Supreme Court proclamation on the Second Amendment, applicable across the nation.

Third, the Supreme Court is more conservative today than it's been for some time, and probably more conservative than it's going to be. In the unlikely event that five current justices decide to read the Second Amendment out of the Constitution by upholding a total ban on handguns, that would be the time for Congress to act. Until then, the D.C. Personal Protection Act is premature and counter-productive.

Meanwhile, if Congress wants to help, there are positive things it can do. D.C. has no federal firearms licensees. And handguns, unlike rifles and shotguns, can't be purchased out of state. So even if Parker wins, D.C. residents could not buy a handgun.

Congress should allow interstate handgun sales as long as they comply with the law in both states. And Congress should change how D.C. processes gun registrations. The city requires multiple pictures, fingerprints, and on and on. The process can take months. Congress can mandate that D.C. officials accept the National Instant Check System used everywhere else.

My colleagues and I have drafted alternative legislation — now in the hands of selected senators —that accomplishes those objectives and more, without extinguishing the Parker suit.

Finally, the NRA has suggested that the D.C. Personal Protection Act is "must" legislation. But the D.C. handgun ban was enacted 31 years ago. Why is it only now that legislation must be passed — especially when the effect of that legislation will be to kill the best chance ever for the Supreme Court to affirm that the Second Amendment means what it says?


This article appeared in the Washington Examiner on April 3, 2007.
 
No thanks.

I prefer to send my hard-earned money to local gun rights groups like Georgia Carry, not to groups like the NRA that compromise and make deals with the gun grabbers.
 
Let your state and local organizations know about the Joaquin Jackson Recall Petition. (See thread right here in "Activism") We're trying to clean up the NRA board by recalling a member that has done harm to the effort to keep our "black rifles" and other "politically incorrect" guns. Watch the numbers daily. We fail if we don't get 100 minimum in three different states.

The line in the sand has been drawn. We must send the message to the Board that the voting membership will not tolerate an NRA leadership that waffles on our Civil 2A Rights!!
 
I'm an associate member, e.g. the $10/yr membership. It gets me their gun insurance, and I think they do some good. I don't need the magazines, though.
 
I don't need the NRA. I carry a copy of the Second Amendment in my wallet. If a federal agent wants to take my guns all I have to do is whip out that copy and say "You can't do it. I am protected." Then they will go away and leave me alone. I have rights.

At this moment the poll shows that 57.35% who voted are NRA members and 46.65% are not NRA members.

What that number means to me is that almost half the people who voted are carrying the other half of the people. That's great! If we can get more people to not join the NRA we can improve those numbers until, maybe, we can have just one person carrying the load for everyone else and then we can all laugh at him for not being as smart as the rest of us.
 
I've been a life member since I was 8 years old - 21 years now.

I can completely understand why someone interested in the RKBA would choose not to be an NRA member though.

1.
The NRA has a long history of political compromises. You can argue political reality vs. moral purity all day long, but I respect anyone's choice to distance themselves from what they see as an organization flawed by politics.

2. IMO, Nobody who isn't actually complicit in the destruction of their rights ever loses the right to complain about the loss. Blaming the victim is in extremely poor taste, to say the least. Rights are something you should be able to keep without needing to defend them.
 
I don't need the NRA. I carry a copy of the Second Amendment in my wallet. If a federal agent wants to take my guns all I have to do is whip out that copy and say "You can't do it. I am protected." Then they will go away and leave me alone. I have rights.
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If this isn't wishful, simplistic thinking I don't know what is. I would LOVE for reality to be that simple, but it's not. The reality is, the Constitution has been trampled upon by both the Bush and Clinton administrations. We have to fight to take back what is ours.

I think it's been established that the NRA isn't perfect. However, they also do a LOT of good for our rights. Imagine where we would be without them!

The critical mistake that we often make as RKBA Constitutionalists is that we expect them to look out for everything, where we need to be doing that! :banghead: Shoot, it's our responsibility as citizens to keep the .gov in check. While the NRA is a nice proxy organization / thinktank, they shouldn't be the only ones charged with fighting for our rights.

So, here's what we need to do. Join 'em, soon our numbers will be large enough within the NRA to force a change at the helm. This is a membership driven organization, and we have to let our voices be heard and if the NRA suddenly had 10 million members, guess who'd be listening REAL closely.
 
That's why I keep the copy of the Second Amendment with me, Jesse.

It's indeed in extremely poor taste to blame the victim who will not protect himself, especially the victim who wants to be above the fray. This country needs more victims like that because they have principles. We should admire and respect people with principles who refuse to compromise by supporting anything less than perfect organizations.

There's no one who has earned more respect than a victim with high principles and a lofty moral ground.
 
I'm going to make an analogy:

Most of us here take our personal defense seriously and arm ourselves
accordingly. We know that there are bad people out there and do our best to keep them from doing us harm. We actively defend our right to live.

Now if there's someone (for the sake of argument, let's say a young woman) who doesn't choose to arm themselves for self defense. If that young woman is attacked by a rapist, should we tell her that she's got no right to complain since she didn't do enough to defend herself?

People have a few basic rights, including the right to own effective tools for self defense and the right to not be sexually assaulted. Anyone who violates any of these rights is scum that isn't fit to share oxygen with you and me.

People who defend these rights are serving an admirable purpose, but I can't really fault someone if they take their rights for granted and become irate when they're violated either. You're supposed to be able to take you're rights for granted, because they're rights. It's just a shame that we live in a world where it doesn't always work that way.
 
I joined the VCDL right after the VT attack. They took a common sense approch to the whole thing.

I am starting to dislike the NRA. I live just south of the HQ. When there, going to the musem I did not see a car in the assigned parking that cost less that $65,000. You can aford to pay people that muc money yet you come beggin to me to always send you more and more money. I even got a phone call from them and they were bold enough to tell me they had me down for $300 to support some bill all they needed me to do was to comfirm I wanted to do it and give them my credit card number to finish it up.

While I think Ted Nugent is funny. He is doing us no good waiving rifles over his head telling the demo president candidates to go F off. Not to mention that they look to be fully loaded while he is doing it in-front of thousands of people. He is making us all look bad to a lot of people and he is making owners of AR-15's look like they are a bunch of long haired raving morons that act like bafoons.

What we need on the NRA board of directors is Soccer moms. Be pissed at me if you want to I do not care. The more women that become outspoken to our cause the more we will get heard. Haven't you heard of the three types of commo? Telephone, telegraph, and Tellawomen.
 
I am not an NRA member - I haven't found yet that I have anything to gain from being a member.

Now, before you flame me, note that I do send them money, but have not joined.

What that number means to me is that almost half the people who voted are carrying the other half of the people.
I hope that was sarcastic, because it's extremely ignorant to think that someone must join the NRA to defend gun rights.
 
I am not an NRA member - I haven't found yet that I have anything to gain from being a member.

Now, before you flame me, note that I do send them money, but have not joined.

The most glaring reason to join to me is the strength in numbers reason. Every NRA member is part of a large block of voters that politicians can not ignore. You may think that one member does not make a difference but it does. Membership is contagious. Once someone becomes a member they tend to spread the word to thier shooting friends and family.
 
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